Starfire vs Wing Commander

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2002-10-20 12:52am

The Terran Federation as of the end of the Shiva option versus the Terran Confederation and the Kilrathi as of the end of Wing Commander: Prophecy.

Warp points will be treated as the same thing as jump points.

Post by **weemadando** » 2002-10-20 01:25am

Man, the freespace Terrans would totally arse-rape Wing Commander.

The Colossus anyone?

SylasGaunt · Post by **SylasGaunt** » 2002-10-20 03:28am

Actually he's talking about the terrans from the Starfire series.

Of course they outrange the WC forces by so much it's not funny, and relativistic fighter strikes are common place.

Post by **weemadando** » 2002-10-20 07:42am

Oh shit. Read that as Shivans rather than Shiva conflict... Sorry. My bad.

EmperorMing · Post by **EmperorMing** » 2002-10-20 08:36am

I would cast my lot with the Starfire Terrans.

consequences · Post by **consequences** » 2002-10-20 01:36pm

Starfire Terrans would win entirely to easily, provided that their warp point system extends throughout Confederation and Kilrathi space. 20 LS effective ranges combined with speeds of up to 12%of light would obliterate Wing Commander with little effort.

Bob McDob · Post by **Bob McDob** » 2002-10-21 02:22am

consequences wrote:Starfire Terrans would win entirely to easily, provided that their warp point system extends throughout Confederation and Kilrathi space. 20 LS effective ranges combined with speeds of up to 12%of light would obliterate Wing Commander with little effort.

Although I know nothing about Starfire other than it being written by Weber (and having cool covers), WC ships are capable of reaching up .7C with scoops closed, as I understand.

SylasGaunt · Post by **SylasGaunt** » 2002-10-21 02:31am

Provided you give them enough time to accelerate yes.

However Starfire's inertialess drives give them the greater advantage of acceleration, it makes them manueverable enough that they can render that higher speed meaningless since the WC ship would then have to slow down and accelerate again.

Couple that with the range advantage and relativistic fighter runs..

consequences · Post by **consequences** » 2002-10-21 12:09pm

Starfire missiles are capable of .8c clocking by the SBM's range, and the fact that the missile seems to arrive in the same combat turn.

Bob McDob · Post by **Bob McDob** » 2002-10-23 12:28am

consequences wrote:Starfire missiles are capable of .8c clocking by the SBM's range, and the fact that the missile seems to arrive in the same combat turn.

How long is the turn?

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2002-10-23 12:39am

consequences wrote:Starfire missiles are capable of .8c clocking by the SBM's range, and the fact that the missile seems to arrive in the same combat turn.

Not to mention the Starfire physics notes give their speed as .8c, fighters as .1c, and capships from.06 <-> .08c. Slower than WC on average but more than made up for by the incrediblt manuvering abilty.

SylasGaunt · Post by **SylasGaunt** » 2002-10-23 01:02am

Fighters are stated to be able to hit .8c at full power (though it's punishing for the pilots)

consequences · Post by **consequences** » 2002-10-24 12:50am

I could have sworn it was a .2 c per unit of tactical speed, did they change the scaling in the new edition or something? My latest rule book is from wgen TFG held the rights.

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