STGOD 4 OOC Thread

Rogue 9 · Post by **Rogue 9** » 2004-05-24 11:45am

Hold up. Thirdfain, you made his operative do something incredibly stupid. No agent in enemy territory would do what you just had him do. They come, you act like a normal citizen and pray to God (or don't, as the case may be) that they don't think you're another power's operative. And above all else, you don't carry a damn pistol into the field; James Bond to the contrary, they attract far too much attention to be worth the jack and shit that they actually do to protect you.

Thirdfain · Post by **Thirdfain** » 2004-05-24 11:47am

Hold up. Thirdfain, you made his operative do something incredibly stupid. No agent in enemy territory would do what you just had him do. They come, you act like a normal citizen and pray to God (or don't, as the case may be) that they don't think you're another power's operative. And above all else, you don't carry a damn pistol into the field; James Bond to the contrary, they attract far too much attention to be worth the jack and shit that they actually do to protect you

He is one of the few cars out in the region, he knew he'd be searched, and he knew that with a fucking STEALTHSUIT in his car, he'd be caught. It's what I'd have done in that situation. The situation gave him no other choice, he could hardly act like a regular citizen with an expensive peice of illegal outworld equipment in his car.

Oh, and he declared the pistol, not me.

Darksider · Post by **Darksider** » 2004-05-24 12:16pm

What, you thought I'd let you take him alive?

Thirdfain · Post by **Thirdfain** » 2004-05-24 12:17pm

Of course not, that's why I left the post where I did. It's easay to kill spies, it's hard to capture em.

Rogue 9 · Post by **Rogue 9** » 2004-05-24 01:32pm

Scuttle as the first option, Speaker? No escape attempt? Those 1 inch skulls must not have all that much brain matter in 'em. Then again, they're trying to get the Soviet system to work, so...

speaker-to-trolls · Post by **speaker-to-trolls** » 2004-05-24 01:33pm

Rogue 9 wrote:Scuttle as the first option, Speaker? No escape attempt? Those 1 inch skulls must not have all that much brain matter in 'em. Then again, they're trying to get the Soviet system to work, so...

Well, err..., maybe they sent the expendable stupid crew out on the dangerous mission(?).

Post by **Alyrium Denryle** » 2004-05-24 01:44pm

speaker-to-trolls wrote:
Rogue 9 wrote:Scuttle as the first option, Speaker? No escape attempt? Those 1 inch skulls must not have all that much brain matter in 'em. Then again, they're trying to get the Soviet system to work, so...
Well, err..., maybe they sent the expendable stupid crew out on the dangerous mission(?).

How can anyone board your ships? Your people are 6 inches tall!!!

Thirdfain · Post by **Thirdfain** » 2004-05-24 01:46pm

SWeet fancy jesus, 6 inches? That's ridiculous, your people would be stupid as shit. Make that 3 feet, ok...
6 inches, tho? no way. Physiologically impossible. Unless you arre fucking Cranium Rats with a hive mind...

speaker-to-trolls · Post by **speaker-to-trolls** » 2004-05-24 01:59pm

Alyrium Denryle wrote:
speaker-to-trolls wrote:
Rogue 9 wrote:Scuttle as the first option, Speaker? No escape attempt? Those 1 inch skulls must not have all that much brain matter in 'em. Then again, they're trying to get the Soviet system to work, so...
Well, err..., maybe they sent the expendable stupid crew out on the dangerous mission(?).
How can anyone board your ships? Your people are 6 inches tall!!!

Some of the corridors are bigger to allow the five foot walkers or human auxiliaries to move through.
Err..., you're a biologist, right. Is six inches too small to have a reasonable brain?, if so what's the minimum for a brain as effective as a humans?

Shark Bait · Post by **Shark Bait** » 2004-05-24 02:00pm

Thirdfain wrote:SWeet fancy jesus, 6 inches? That's ridiculous, your people would be stupid as shit. Makee thqat 3 feet, ok...
6 inches, tho?

Hrm might be possible but several factors would need to line up perfectly and mean PERFECTLY. First the brain would need to be hyper-cortacalised(sp) or in other words super wrinkled. Second autonomic systems would need to be contained further down the spine. Next they would lack some portions of the brain dealing with perception. lastly their neurons would need to be extreamly conductive, that would allow for faster communication and more connections.

but thats allot of what if's

Post by **Alyrium Denryle** » 2004-05-24 02:01pm

speaker-to-trolls wrote:
Alyrium Denryle wrote:
speaker-to-trolls wrote: Well, err..., maybe they sent the expendable stupid crew out on the dangerous mission(?).
How can anyone board your ships? Your people are 6 inches tall!!!
Some of the corridors are bigger to allow the five foot walkers or human auxiliaries to move through.
Err..., you're a biologist, right. Is six inches too small to have a reasonable brain?, if so what's the minimum for a brain as effective as a humans?

Biologist, in training I suppose you could say...

But Shark Bait pretty much covers it.

speaker-to-trolls · Post by **speaker-to-trolls** » 2004-05-24 02:03pm

So what's the smallest size possible to have a respectable brain?.

Hotfoot · Post by **Hotfoot** » 2004-05-24 02:05pm

The thought of merely stepping on the enemy in ground combats amuses me greatly.

Powered armored troopers versus super-intelligent mice? It's like pitting the Book MI against the Redshirt Brigade.

I'd say for for 3-5 feet at least.

Shark Bait · Post by **Shark Bait** » 2004-05-24 02:10pm

speaker-to-trolls wrote:So what's the smallest size possible to have a respectable brain?.

its not a matter of direct size but efficency and ratio to body size, example a whale's brain is the size of a child's entire body but one could argue that the child is smarter. lots of it depends on what you use. Example cats have a very large cerebellum and are therefore very agile. Besides, you can claim genetic memory that frees up space, not only that you would have a diffrent evolutionary path.

Brain capacity aside though i would increase their size as a matter of practicality.

speaker-to-trolls · Post by **speaker-to-trolls** » 2004-05-24 02:14pm

Shark Bait wrote:
speaker-to-trolls wrote:So what's the smallest size possible to have a respectable brain?.
its not a matter of direct size but efficency and ratio to body size, example a whale's brain is the size of a child's entire body but one could argue that the child is smarter. lots of it depends on what you use. Example cats have a very large cerebellum and are therefore very agile. Besides, you can claim genetic memory that frees up space, not only that you would have a diffrent evolutionary path.

Brain capacity aside though i would increase their size as a matter of practicality.

How about a foot and a half with big heads?. Not so big their overbalanced, but a bit bigger than a humans in relation to body size?.

speaker-to-trolls · Post by **speaker-to-trolls** » 2004-05-24 02:15pm

Hotfoot wrote:The thought of merely stepping on the enemy in ground combats amuses me greatly.

Powered armored troopers versus super-intelligent mice? It's like pitting the Book MI against the Redshirt Brigade.

I'd say for for 3-5 feet at least.

Sorry to tell you, but they've realised this and have transplanted nearly all their ground troops into mini WOTW style walkers.

Rogue 9 · Post by **Rogue 9** » 2004-05-24 02:18pm

I'll be more generous to your character concept. I'd say two feet at least, but they'd have to have large heads in proportion to their bodies. There have been human midgets who didn't have impaired mental faculties, though they're few and far between.

You might be able to take it down to 1 to 1.5 feet and plead that this is sci-fi/fiction (see The Rats of NIMH), but it won't be realistic, just within the realm of possibility.

speaker-to-trolls · Post by **speaker-to-trolls** » 2004-05-24 02:23pm

Edit complete, they are now tweny inches tall. I guess I won't be able to surprise anyone at the first diplomatic conference I arrive at.

Hotfoot · Post by **Hotfoot** » 2004-05-24 02:25pm

speaker-to-trolls wrote:Sorry to tell you, but they've realised this and have transplanted nearly all their ground troops into mini WOTW style walkers.

Such devices would be considerably more expensive than a cheap suit of powered armor, meaning you would have fewer of them.

If you're playing a physically diminutive race, you've got to take a hit somewhere. Your fleets might be comparable, but your ground forces are going to be sub-par in some respect or another.

The famous Soviet Horrifying Human wave won't exactly work if all of your soldiers are highly trained mecha pilots.

But, yeah, if you want to play a people that make the SG-1 Asgard look tall and mighty, go for it.

Twenty inches should be sufficient.

speaker-to-trolls · Post by **speaker-to-trolls** » 2004-05-24 02:31pm

Hmmmm, I probably need to do a bit of work on the military as well, thanks for pointing that out, Hotfoot.

Any suggestions about the ground military thing?, they don't have to be Monacorans, or average, in fact, just need to be able to hold their own in a fight for at least a short time (until they can bring in orbital bombardment).

Hotfoot · Post by **Hotfoot** » 2004-05-24 02:38pm

speaker-to-trolls wrote:Hmmmm, I probably need to do a bit of work on the military as well, thanks for pointing that out, Hotfoot.

Any suggestions about the ground military thing?, they don't have to be Monacorans, or average, in fact, just need to be able to hold their own in a fight for at least a short time (until they can bring in orbital bombardment).

I'd suggest powered armor, perhaps supported by droid mini-tanks capable of hauling a squad's heavy weapons, and then the standard array of vehicles. Your infantry will always be something of a weak point, but your artillery shells and such will still hit as hard.

speaker-to-trolls · Post by **speaker-to-trolls** » 2004-05-24 02:44pm

Hotfoot wrote:
speaker-to-trolls wrote:Hmmmm, I probably need to do a bit of work on the military as well, thanks for pointing that out, Hotfoot.

Any suggestions about the ground military thing?, they don't have to be Monacorans, or average, in fact, just need to be able to hold their own in a fight for at least a short time (until they can bring in orbital bombardment).
I'd suggest powered armor, perhaps supported by droid mini-tanks capable of hauling a squad's heavy weapons, and then the standard array of vehicles. Your infantry will always be something of a weak point, but your artillery shells and such will still hit as hard.

I'll use those ideas but I think I'll keep the mini-walkers.
Thanks.

Hotfoot · Post by **Hotfoot** » 2004-05-24 02:47pm

speaker-to-trolls wrote:I'll use those ideas but I think I'll keep the mini-walkers.
Thanks.

Fair enough. You're welcome

Rogue 9 · Post by **Rogue 9** » 2004-05-24 02:56pm

Mini-tanks would be more practical, but that's never deterred a mech fan before, so what the hey.

frigidmagi · Post by **frigidmagi** » 2004-05-24 03:19pm

I would use those enslaved humans has the bulk of my infantry. Your specis flys the ships and planes and tanks and artillary guns.

I would with self proelled guns for Arty by the way, but I'm a bit of a moblity freak.