Can pr0n sites bill you without knowing?

Post by **Gandalf** » 2004-05-26 08:02am

Essentially as the title said.

My Dad's girlfriend's children have apparently run up a huge phone bill. Everyone there is blaming other people in the house for visiting porn sites and running up the bill. No-one will own up, but it got me worried/curious.

So, can I be billed without knowing?

Zac Naloen · Post by **Zac Naloen** » 2004-05-26 08:06am

erm.... you'd have to be using a dialler... surely?

Post by **Gandalf** » 2004-05-26 08:12am

Dialler?

Stofsk · Post by **Stofsk** » 2004-05-26 08:29am

Gandalf wrote:Dialler?

A dialer is the program utility that certain paysites want you to use and download. Basically it depends on your ISP being a dial-up. You download the dialer, click ok, then it dials the number and thus huge phone bill. When I was young and didn't know any better I did the mistake of using one.

Post by **Gandalf** » 2004-05-26 08:32am

Well, to the best of my knowledge I don't have a dialler.

Basically because I download nothing.

Stofsk · Post by **Stofsk** » 2004-05-26 08:50am

Gandalf wrote:Well, to the best of my knowledge I don't have a dialler.

Basically because I download nothing.

Dialers are evil incarnate. They put the 'shit' in 'scat'.

...

Christ, I have to come up with better metaphors...

If you don't download anything then don't worry. Dialers are a program, rather than, say, an image file or movie.

InnerBrat · Post by **InnerBrat** » 2004-05-26 10:15am

Maybe someone in your family (dad) has one and you're inadvertently using it without knowing?

Post by **Gandalf** » 2004-05-26 10:18am

InnerBrat wrote:Maybe someone in your family (dad) has one and you're inadvertently using it without knowing?

I needn't worry, we live seperately. My computer here shouldn't have anything on it I don't know about.

General Zod · Post by **General Zod** » 2004-05-26 10:28am

have you checked for spyware lately? some malicious sites could use dialer/browser hijackers and put them on your system relatively easily without your knowledge.

Tsyroc · Post by **Tsyroc** » 2004-05-26 12:18pm

Gandalf wrote:Essentially as the title said.

My Dad's girlfriend's children have apparently run up a huge phone bill. Everyone there is blaming other people in the house for visiting porn sites and running up the bill. No-one will own up, but it got me worried/curious.

So, can I be billed without knowing?

It's on the phone bill? Are you sure they aren't just calling pay porn numbers on the phone?

EmperorMing · Post by **EmperorMing** » 2004-05-26 01:22pm

The dialer is doing it on it's own while you are not there. They're programmed to do this.

Pull the modem from the system until you find the offending program; most likely its running from your startup folder or somewhere's else.

Einhander Sn0m4n · Post by **Einhander Sn0m4n** » 2004-05-26 01:25pm

www.safer-networking.org DOWNLOAD SPYBOTSD NOW!

http://209.133.47.12/~merijn/files/CWShredder.exe

http://209.133.47.12/~merijn/files/HijackThis.exe

Vertigo1 · Post by **Vertigo1** » 2004-05-26 03:25pm

Einhander Sn0m4n wrote:www.safer-networking.org DOWNLOAD SPYBOTSD NOW!

http://209.133.47.12/~merijn/files/CWShredder.exe

http://209.133.47.12/~merijn/files/HijackThis.exe

You forgot AdAware

Lord Pounder · Post by **Lord Pounder** » 2004-05-26 03:29pm

Adaware is shite, When i got hit with a hijacker a few weeks ago it did feck all for me, Hijack This and SSD sorrted my problem way easier.

Vertigo1 · Post by **Vertigo1** » 2004-05-26 04:30pm

Lord Pounder wrote:Adaware is shite, When i got hit with a hijacker a few weeks ago it did feck all for me, Hijack This and SSD sorrted my problem way easier.

Psst! You know you can update it...right? Adaware can pick up things Spybot can't, and vice versa.

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2004-05-26 04:35pm

To G&C this goes.

Lord Pounder · Post by **Lord Pounder** » 2004-05-26 05:58pm

Vertigo1 wrote:
Lord Pounder wrote:Adaware is shite, When i got hit with a hijacker a few weeks ago it did feck all for me, Hijack This and SSD sorrted my problem way easier.
Psst! You know you can update it...right? Adaware can pick up things Spybot can't, and vice versa.

I ran an update every week on Adaware, even with the latest updates Adaware failed to even detect that there was a problem. Spybot had it wiped out in no time. I've since changed to Mozilla and don't pick up half the shit i used to.

Ace Pace · Post by **Ace Pace** » 2004-05-27 04:28am

Ad aware works perfectly here, unlike spybot which for some reason crashs the system.

Anyway, it finds everything I noticed, and what I don't notice I don't care, since the cookies get deleated every week, saving me the bother.

Ace Pace · Post by **Ace Pace** » 2004-05-27 04:29am

Ad aware works perfectly here, unlike spybot which for some reason crashs the system.

Anyway, it finds everything I noticed, and what I don't notice I don't care, since the cookies get deleated every week, saving me the bother.

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