B.Gen Karpinski (Sp?) suspended from post pending....

[MKSheppard]

an investigation. This isn't being reported in the major wires, but
yes, she's been suspended. Anyone get the feeling she's going to be
sodomised repeatedly by a Courts-Martial?

[MKSheppard]

Oh yes, linkage:

http://www.armytimes.com/story.php?f=1- ... 948440.php

Karpinski’s suspension, which has not yet been announced by the Army, was the latest in a series of actions against officers and enlisted soldiers implicated in the abuse scandal at the prison near Baghdad.

[Frank Hipper]

No matter whether what went on in that shithole happened through her being incompetent, apathetic, or the one issuing orders for it, being in command makes her the most culpable and prosecutable person involved.

She deserves the worst they can throw at her for this.

[Tsyroc]

In his widely cited investigation report on the Abu Ghraib abuse allegations, Maj. Gen. Antonio Taguba found heavy fault with Karpinski’s performance and recommended that she be relieved of command and given a formal reprimand. Instead she was given a less-severe “memorandum of admonishment” on Jan. 17 by Sanchez.

Now that is lame. She should have at least gotten what the Maj. Gen recomended.

Taguba reported that despite the documented abuse of prisoners, he saw no evidence that Karpinski ever attempted to remind the military police in her command of the requirements of the Geneva Conventions, which protect prisoners of war and civilian detainees in times of armed conflict.

She's fucked.

I swear that command looks so fucked up that the only thing it can remind me of is a couple of those leaderless commands that were in Apocolypse Now.

[MKSheppard]

Now that is lame. She should have at least gotten what the Maj. Gen recomended.

If she isn't thrown before a court marshal, and stripped of her rank,
benefits, and what not for gross incompetence, as well as looking like
a man, I'll be fucking disappointed.

[Aaron]

Come on guys, when was the last time a General Officer was court-martialed. I'm betting that she'll get her repremand and may even be forced out. But she won't get the book thrown at her. That rarely happens to General Officers.

A case in point: In Bosnia in 2000 the CO of the Royal Canadian Dragoons was visiting his men overseas. He and his RSM were going to join a patrol in Leapord tanks through the local town. During the preperations for the patrol, the CO accidently fired the COAX machine gun into the tank ahead of him, missing his RSM's head by 13 INCHES! All he got was a fine for a neligent discharge, no reprimand or any other kind of admonsiment.

[LordShaithis]

That's hardly the of planet-wide stink-raising magnitude of people under your command being caught torturing prisoners.

[LordShaithis]

Hardly OF THE, not THE OF... dammit...

[Aaron]

That's hardly the of planet-wide stink-raising magnitude of people under your command being caught torturing prisoners.

It's just an example of how the military justice system works. I was in the army too long to think that anything bad would actually happen to a General Officer, their to well protected.

[Durandal]

Now that is lame. She should have at least gotten what the Maj. Gen recomended.

If she isn't thrown before a court marshal, and stripped of her rank, benefits, and what not for gross incompetence, as well as looking like a man, I'll be fucking disappointed.

"General Karpinski, you are hereby found guilty of gross incompetence, neglect and failure to maintain a disciplined unit and failure to protect the prisoners under your charge. But worse than that ... you're a man baby!

Dishonorable discharge."

[Sarevok]

She should be punished heavily for what soldiers under her command did to the Iraqi prisoners.

[Vohu Manah]

Of course she should face charges, she is just as guilty as her men for this whole affair. But I imagine they'll just end up letting her retire instead of going through the trouble.

[Frank Hipper]

Of course she should face charges, she is just as guilty as her men for this whole affair.

Actually, she's more guilty then those under her; she was in command, she was responsible.

[Stuart Mackey]

That's hardly the of planet-wide stink-raising magnitude of people under your command being caught torturing prisoners.

It's just an example of how the military justice system works. I was in the army too long to think that anything bad would actually happen to a General Officer, their to well protected.

Naturally..if you throw the book at flag ranked officers {orificers? }then such an action is deemed to throw doubt on the system that produced these rotters...the stink could go far, affect to many reputations, even that of politicians, and we couldnt have that now could we, old chap?