Are there any Doctors in the house?

Straha · Post by **Straha** » 2004-05-27 10:58pm

I know we have quite a varied crew of people here, but the one profession I don't think I've seen here so far is a doctor. So, out of curiosity, is there a doctor in the house?

Xenophobe3691 · Post by **Xenophobe3691** » 2004-05-28 12:05am

MD or PhD?

Shark Bait · Post by **Shark Bait** » 2004-05-28 12:51am

My dad is a trauma surgeon and I keep his “Sabistion textbook of surgery” (fifth edition) in my room. Not quite the same but could possibly help with some medically related issues if they come up.

SyntaxVorlon · Post by **SyntaxVorlon** » 2004-05-28 01:13am

Finally submitting to that castration?

Post by **Zaia** » 2004-05-28 01:41am

I will have my doctorate one day. But, that day would not be today. Or tomorrow, for that matter.

Trytostaydead · Post by **Trytostaydead** » 2004-05-28 02:08am

Matriculating this year.. so, unless I fall in love, get dumped and then fail a year (which is actually a pretty common occurance).. give me four years and then I'll be an MD.

InnerBrat · Post by **InnerBrat** » 2004-05-28 03:40am

Give me 3 years, then I'll be a PhD.

Trytostaydead · Post by **Trytostaydead** » 2004-05-28 04:22am

InnerBrat wrote:Give me 3 years, then I'll be a PhD.

3 years for a scientist? Wow, that's actually kinda short. Everyone I know that is not in an MD/PhD program are in their fourth+ year of their graduate program. So far, the person I know who's been the longest PhD candidate is.. was my neurosystems TA.. 7 years.. he recently quit and went to law school

InnerBrat · Post by **InnerBrat** » 2004-05-28 05:01am

Trytostaydead wrote:3 years for a scientist? Wow, that's actually kinda short. Everyone I know that is not in an MD/PhD program are in their fourth+ year of their graduate program. So far, the person I know who's been the longest PhD candidate is.. was my neurosystems TA.. 7 years.. he recently quit and went to law school

Well, the British system is a lot different from the US one. Our PhD's are solely research based, and take 3 years. The American system, as far as I can tell, involves 3 years of taught courses before one even begins on the research project. Too many dull and irrelevent lectures for me, I'm afraid.

Sarevok · Post by **Sarevok** » 2004-05-28 06:49am

My parents are not doctors but I have several uncles who are doctors.

Son of the Suns · Post by **Son of the Suns** » 2004-05-28 08:42am

InnerBrat wrote:
Trytostaydead wrote:3 years for a scientist? Wow, that's actually kinda short. Everyone I know that is not in an MD/PhD program are in their fourth+ year of their graduate program. So far, the person I know who's been the longest PhD candidate is.. was my neurosystems TA.. 7 years.. he recently quit and went to law school
Well, the British system is a lot different from the US one. Our PhD's are solely research based, and take 3 years. The American system, as far as I can tell, involves 3 years of taught courses before one even begins on the research project. Too many dull and irrelevent lectures for me, I'm afraid.

I don't know what gave you that idea, every graduate program I've seen in any science involves research from the beginning to end, assuming you haven't already done quite a bit as an undergrad. My degree requires 6 semesters of undergrad research. Assuming I go straight into a PhD program after I get my degree I have to have 20+ hours of research over 3-4 years.

SyntaxVorlon · Post by **SyntaxVorlon** » 2004-05-28 12:00pm

May as well post a serious one, both of my parents are PhDs in social sciences. I am considering getting a PhD in Physics. Though thats a long way down the line.

Jon · Post by **Jon** » 2004-05-28 12:26pm

InnerBrat wrote:Well, the British system is a lot different from the US one. Our PhD's are solely research based, and take 3 years. The American system, as far as I can tell, involves 3 years of taught courses before one even begins on the research project. Too many dull and irrelevent lectures for me, I'm afraid.

Indeed, but probably best to mention that is after we have already done 4 years to gain a Masters Degree...

Xenophobe3691 · Post by **Xenophobe3691** » 2004-05-28 12:36pm

My mom has a JD and my dad has an MD...I hope to either go for a PhD in Aerospace Engineering or just get a JD or something...

Trytostaydead · Post by **Trytostaydead** » 2004-05-28 12:40pm

Jon wrote:
InnerBrat wrote:Well, the British system is a lot different from the US one. Our PhD's are solely research based, and take 3 years. The American system, as far as I can tell, involves 3 years of taught courses before one even begins on the research project. Too many dull and irrelevent lectures for me, I'm afraid.
Indeed, but probably best to mention that is after we have already done 4 years to gain a Masters Degree...

..so in England you have to get a Masters first which takes 4 years before getting a PhD? Cripes. A Masters can take only a year here in the States, and that's even for cell and molecular studies (if you decide not to do a research based program).

Phantasee · Post by **Phantasee** » 2004-05-28 12:45pm

Trytostaydead wrote:
Jon wrote:
InnerBrat wrote:Well, the British system is a lot different from the US one. Our PhD's are solely research based, and take 3 years. The American system, as far as I can tell, involves 3 years of taught courses before one even begins on the research project. Too many dull and irrelevent lectures for me, I'm afraid.
Indeed, but probably best to mention that is after we have already done 4 years to gain a Masters Degree...
..so in England you have to get a Masters first which takes 4 years before getting a PhD? Cripes. A Masters can take only a year here in the States, and that's even for cell and molecular studies (if you decide not to do a research based program).

Here in Canada, last I checked it takes 4-5 zears for the Bachelors, 3-4 zears for a Masters, and another 3-4 zears for a PhD. That[s like, almost 9 zears total. A looong time to be in school. Wonder how big the student loan would be...

Jon · Post by **Jon** » 2004-05-28 12:50pm

Trytostaydead wrote:
Jon wrote:
InnerBrat wrote:Well, the British system is a lot different from the US one. Our PhD's are solely research based, and take 3 years. The American system, as far as I can tell, involves 3 years of taught courses before one even begins on the research project. Too many dull and irrelevent lectures for me, I'm afraid.
Indeed, but probably best to mention that is after we have already done 4 years to gain a Masters Degree...
..so in England you have to get a Masters first which takes 4 years before getting a PhD? Cripes. A Masters can take only a year here in the States, and that's even for cell and molecular studies (if you decide not to do a research based program).

Sorry I should clarify, it does actually only take one year to get a masters, but you need to have a bachelors before you can take one, and that takes 3 years to achieve.

Trytostaydead · Post by **Trytostaydead** » 2004-05-28 12:51pm

Yeah, same in states. Routinely Masters takes more than 2 years. But those bums who are taking Masters to pad their transcripts for medical school can take less than 2. I think we're a bit different than the British system. Don't you crazy brits get into like a 6 year medical program? Two as an undergrad and four in medical school?

At any rate. Oh yeah, everyone in my family 'cept the women have a professional degree. I'm the only one still lagging, hey.. I'm the youngest

Dahak · Post by **Dahak** » 2004-05-28 02:47pm

To get a doctor title here, you have to finish your diploma first (normally around 5-6 years), and then you have to write your dissertation, so possibly up to 2-3 additional years.

InnerBrat · Post by **InnerBrat** » 2004-05-28 02:59pm

Son of the Suns wrote:I don't know what gave you that idea, every graduate program I've seen in any science involves research from the beginning to end, assuming you haven't already done quite a bit as an undergrad. My degree requires 6 semesters of undergrad research. Assuming I go straight into a PhD program after I get my degree I have to have 20+ hours of research over 3-4 years.

I'll tell you what gave me that idea: actually looking at graduate programmes that require 3 years taught and then 3 years research, or 6 years combined taught and research.

I decided I'd rather stay here.

Medicus · Post by **Medicus** » 2004-05-28 03:40pm

< 1 year until I get my MD, but it will be a couple more before I'm licensed. (Hence the somewhat unimaginative screen name).

Post by **Zaia** » 2004-05-28 06:05pm

Ooh, one year for a master's degree and three for a PhD?! I'm going to grad school in England!

Jon · Post by **Jon** » 2004-05-28 07:01pm

Zaia wrote:Ooh, one year for a master's degree and three for a PhD?! I'm going to grad school in England!

and *apparently* it's the best education you can get on the planet

Post by **Zaia** » 2004-05-28 07:05pm

Jon wrote:
Zaia wrote:Ooh, one year for a master's degree and three for a PhD?! I'm going to grad school in England!
and *apparently* it's the best education you can get on the planet

Hey, even better, although somehow I doubt they were concerning themselves with music when that modest pronouncement was made.

Son of the Suns · Post by **Son of the Suns** » 2004-05-28 10:20pm

InnerBrat wrote:
Son of the Suns wrote:I don't know what gave you that idea, every graduate program I've seen in any science involves research from the beginning to end, assuming you haven't already done quite a bit as an undergrad. My degree requires 6 semesters of undergrad research. Assuming I go straight into a PhD program after I get my degree I have to have 20+ hours of research over 3-4 years.
I'll tell you what gave me that idea: actually looking at graduate programmes that require 3 years taught and then 3 years research, or 6 years combined taught and research.

I decided I'd rather stay here.

Hum I've never seen any like that. Of course the only schools I've looked at are in Texas, so maybe it's different in other places around the country.