Question about the Emperor

[Tsyroc]

I haven't read many of the SW books but I keep reading people's posts that mention that the Emperor had it set up so he transfer his conciousness into new clone boddies of himself.

Was he the only one who could do this, or do you think it would have been possible for Vader (or any other Force user) to do so as well?

[Stormbringer]

I haven't read many of the SW books but I keep reading people's posts that mention that the Emperor had it set up so he transfer his conciousness into new clone boddies of himself.

Was he the only one who could do this, or do you think it would have been possible for Vader (or any other Force user) to do so as well?

Any force user of sufficient strength and training. It's not without consequence and improperly performed it can sever the users connection to the Force.

Callista, who was only a middling Jedi, was able to do the same. Although she lost the ability to use the Force.

[Tsyroc]

Thanks.

In that case I'm sort of suprised that they didn't try cloneing a healthy boddy for Vader if he was supposedly as bad off as GL has making him seem lately.

Perhaps a healthy Vader posed the risk of being too powerful for the Emperor in the extreme long term?

[Stormbringer]

Thanks.

In that case I'm sort of suprised that they didn't try cloneing a healthy boddy for Vader if he was supposedly as bad off as GL has making him seem lately.

Perhaps a healthy Vader posed the risk of being too powerful for the Emperor in the extreme long term?

Considering the risk he was unhealthy probably.

And I wonder how much of the risk Vader would be willing to run. Even a perfectly done it changes the person. Mara Jade said the Emperor wasn't the same in the clone bodies (if he was the real deal).

[Oddity]

Perhaps a healthy Vader posed the risk of being too powerful for the Emperor in the extreme long term?

Probably. Once your underling run out of things to do, they stop and begin to think... and plan to overthrow you. I think that's why the Emperor wanted to replace Vader with Luke.

[Lord_Xerxes]

For what it's worth, from the Darkside Sourcebook:

"Transfer Essense [Cha]
Dark Side; Trained only; Requires the Force-Sensitive and Sith Sorcery feats

You can transfer your life essence from your own body into the body of another-either an empty vessels (such as a clone) or, in more extreme cases, another developed, intelligent being. Your consciousness then overwrites that other individual's consciousness-leaving your mind in the other body. Your own body disintegrates, leaving behind your clothing and any items you previously held or carried...

...You can also transfer your life essence fomr your own body into a specially prepared item, such as a temple, although this is a much more difficult process. This process requires that the user have ranks in Alchemy and that life force other than the user's is expended to help power the transfer....Exar Kun used this application of Transfer Essence at the end of the Sith Wars."

[Crazy_Vasey]

Palpatine became the Kenny of Star Wars. Oh my god you killed Palpatine you bastards!

[Illuminatus Primus]

Jade's full of shit. She was pissed because when Palpatine returned and launched his blitzkrieg on the New Republic still reeling from the assualts of his late Grand Admiral, and called Skywalker to his side; not her. She was weak and a failure. Skywalker had proven himself strong.

And how would she know Palpatine during his post-Endor return was "different"? Palpatine had severed his mind link with her and she was never near him during his resurgency. Also, she never thought Palpatine was different during the OT, and Palpatine took a clone body to replace his old one shortly before Yavin.

The Life Transfer art is generally highly difficult to master. Palpatine was the only Sith Lord to properly utilize the skill to transfer himself into another living sentient vessel (see: body), as opposed to the pathetic hauntings of temples and shrines the others only managed. Callista managed it by freak chance and probably with help from her Jedi lover. Perhaps her natural skills predisposed her toward the skill, who knows.

Vader likely simply didn't know how to do it like Palpatine did. Somewhere in the EU they mention Vader rivaled Palpatine in power (knowledge + raw potential) by the Battle of Endor. Palpatine wanted to replace Vader for a big reason.

Palpatine's genetic source material was deliberately manipulated and his healthy clones were all destroyed; he occupied a flawed body, and with the source sample tainted, he had no way to reestablish his clones. He attempted to sieze the body of the infant Anakin Solo (by now Palpatine seemed to be losing sanity to a degree, but presumably, biotech is powerful enough in SW that he could excellerate the growth of Anakin to adulthood once he possessed the body, just like the clone body in the Spaarti cylinders). He killed a Jedi cripple and a neophyte Force Adept but goaded Han Solo into killing his decaying body once he and Skywalker arrived; he knew Skywalker would be able to overpower and defeat him in corperal state. Freed of his body, Palpatine attempted to possess Anakin, but Jedi cripple Brand siezed Palpatine into himself whilest shielding Anakin from Palpatine's darkness. Brand, mortally wounded, informed Skywalker that Palpatine would never return; Brand died, dragging Palpatine with him into the thereafter.