Tenet Resigns

Daltonator · Post by **Daltonator** » 2004-06-03 10:44am

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5129314/

Post by **Gandalf** » 2004-06-03 10:48am

Somehow I thought this would happen sooner.

Be interesting to see who the replacement is.

Admiral Valdemar · Post by **Admiral Valdemar** » 2004-06-03 10:59am

For a non-ad saturated page: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/3774089.stm

Daltonator · Post by **Daltonator** » 2004-06-03 11:04am

Gandalf wrote:Somehow I thought this would happen sooner.

Be interesting to see who the replacement is.

John McLaughlin, deputy CIA director. July 11.

Admiral Valdemar · Post by **Admiral Valdemar** » 2004-06-03 11:05am

He says "personal reasons". Could it be because he doesn't want to be a scapegoat for any future intel. failures?

BoredShirtless · Post by **BoredShirtless** » 2004-06-03 11:09am

Tenet takes a bullet for Shrub, I'm shocked! No wait what's an antonym for shocked...yeah, I'm unperturbed. Clearly, the saying "the buck stops here" isn't hanging off the Oval Office in some spify Latin font.

BoredShirtless · Post by **BoredShirtless** » 2004-06-03 11:12am

Admiral Valdemar wrote:He says "personal reasons". Could it be because he doesn't want to be a scapegoat for any future intel. failures?

Or could it be because someone besides the President had to take the blame for the Presidents 2003 SOTUA?

http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington ... enet_x.htm

He has survived rumors for months that he would be forced out of his position. Last summer, he was been blamed for President Bush's unsubstantiated charge in his State of the Union address that Iraq sought to buy uranium for nuclear weapons from Africa.

Admiral Valdemar · Post by **Admiral Valdemar** » 2004-06-03 11:14am

Ah, nice to see the Secret Service aren't the only guys willing to throw it all away for the Prez.

Col. Crackpot · Post by **Col. Crackpot** » 2004-06-03 11:29am

BoredShirtless wrote:Tenet takes a bullet for Shrub, I'm shocked! No wait what's an antonym for shocked...yeah, I'm unperturbed. Clearly, the saying "the buck stops here" isn't hanging off the Oval Office in some spify Latin font.

Tenet was a holdover from the previous administration. I find it unlikely that he'd be willing to 'take a bullet' for a President from an opposing party. The CIA fucked up so fantasticly and publicly that it was just a matter of time. He won't (and shouldn't) be the last to resign. I don't see Rice lasting much longer. As for Reichsmarshall Rumsfeld, one can only hope.

BoredShirtless · Post by **BoredShirtless** » 2004-06-03 12:14pm

Col. Crackpot wrote:
BoredShirtless wrote:Tenet takes a bullet for Shrub, I'm shocked! No wait what's an antonym for shocked...yeah, I'm unperturbed. Clearly, the saying "the buck stops here" isn't hanging off the Oval Office in some spify Latin font.
Tenet was a holdover from the previous administration. I find it unlikely that he'd be willing to 'take a bullet' for a President from an opposing party.

Maybe he wasn't willing. Maybe he was pushed. You've gotta admit that the major and numerous policy fuckups from the President and his Cabinet aren't because of the CIA or Tenet; the CIA released study after study debunking the bullshit implied by Bush and co. It seems to me that from Tenet sitting behind Powel at the U.N. with a knowing "this won't fly" look on his face till today, he was a facade from day one, and now the facade is taking the fall.

The CIA fucked up so fantasticly and publicly that it was just a matter of time.

Really? How did the CIA fuck up so fantasticly and publicly?

He won't (and shouldn't) be the last to resign. I don't see Rice lasting much longer. As for Reichsmarshall Rumsfeld, one can only hope.

No way, they're sticking around till the elections are over.

Joe · Post by **Joe** » 2004-06-03 12:23pm

Maybe he wasn't willing. Maybe he was pushed. You've gotta admit that the major and numerous policy fuckups from the President and his Cabinet aren't because of the CIA or Tenet; the CIA released study after study debunking the bullshit implied by Bush and co. It seems to me that from Tenet sitting behind Powel at the U.N. with a knowing "this won't fly" look on his face till today, he was a facade from day one, and now the facade is taking the fall.

Actually, if you believe Bob Woodward, Tenet was more sure than anyone about the WMDs.

Plekhanov · Post by **Plekhanov** » 2004-06-03 12:24pm

I just hope he has some good shit for a book slating Bush and hope that he can get it written and published before the election.

beyond hope · Post by **beyond hope** » 2004-06-03 12:25pm

I'm getting the strangest sense of deja vu here. I can't remember names, but I could swear there were a couple Reagan administration officials who went out the same way... a public "we're all so pleased with the job so-and-so is doing" followed by them "voluntarily" resigning. I'll have to look it up later.

JME2 · Post by **JME2** » 2004-06-03 02:18pm

Plekhanov wrote:I just hope he has some good shit for a book slating Bush and hope that he can get it written and published before the election.

I concur; Clarke had some good stuff, so who knows what Tenet's got on Dubya. The more to the anti-Bush party, the merrier and t he lest fundie too.

Gil Hamilton · Post by **Gil Hamilton** » 2004-06-03 04:15pm

Plekhanov wrote:I just hope he has some good shit for a book slating Bush and hope that he can get it written and published before the election.

Even if he does, there won't be a book for a long time. CIA people sign really pointed non-disclosure contracts. Tenet naming names and telling all would be bad juju for him. Bad juju.

The Kernel · Post by **The Kernel** » 2004-06-03 05:46pm

Col. Crackpot wrote: Tenet was a holdover from the previous administration. I find it unlikely that he'd be willing to 'take a bullet' for a President from an opposing party. The CIA fucked up so fantasticly and publicly that it was just a matter of time. He won't (and shouldn't) be the last to resign. I don't see Rice lasting much longer. As for Reichsmarshall Rumsfeld, one can only hope.

What in the world makes you think the CIA director just has to be partisan? Secret Service agents can be holdovers from previous administrations too, does that mean they need to get replaced because they won't take a bullet for a Republican president?

Knife · Post by **Knife** » 2004-06-03 09:20pm

Col. Crackpot wrote:
BoredShirtless wrote:Tenet takes a bullet for Shrub, I'm shocked! No wait what's an antonym for shocked...yeah, I'm unperturbed. Clearly, the saying "the buck stops here" isn't hanging off the Oval Office in some spify Latin font.
Tenet was a holdover from the previous administration. I find it unlikely that he'd be willing to 'take a bullet' for a President from an opposing party. The CIA fucked up so fantasticly and publicly that it was just a matter of time. He won't (and shouldn't) be the last to resign. I don't see Rice lasting much longer. As for Reichsmarshall Rumsfeld, one can only hope.

Agreed. With all the leaks on personal relationships with Chulabi (sp?) starting to dribble out and how Rumsfield was chummy and those like Meyers and even Powell, were not; I see some serious house cleaning.

Rumsfield has pretty much run the war, so if enough leaks out that Rumsfield ran the war off of Chulabi's bullshit, I think you can say goodbye to Donald. Tennent, I thing (hope) is just the first stroke.

Andrew J. · Post by **Andrew J.** » 2004-06-03 10:14pm

Enough with this "resignation" crap. Someone needs to be fired, preferably on live television, Vince McMahon style.

"Donald...YOU'RE FIRRRED!"

Mayabird · Post by **Mayabird** » 2004-06-04 01:11am

Another CIA official resigns

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/3775423.stm

They go out of their way to say that it's not related in any way. Makes me suspicious.

JME2 · Post by **JME2** » 2004-06-04 01:38am

Mayabird wrote:Another CIA official resigns

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/3775423.stm

They go out of their way to say that it's not related in any way. Makes me suspicious.

In the words of my good layman...

Another one bites the dust! And where it'll stop, no one knows!

Traceroute · Post by **Traceroute** » 2004-06-04 02:51am

I really think Tenet is a red herring to tide the administration over in the polls until the handover of power in Iraq at the end of this month. There is the distinct possibility that Tenet is sick of Bush's focus, though. In his position, with Bush & Rumsfield, I'd probably step down, too.

I'd love to see him write a book, like Against All Enemies. I'm sure he could do it without revealing any classified material. The bibliography should be amusing ...

"Wahabism ... The Baath Party Love Child" ... Slated for declassification in 2049.

(Not trying to tie that title to anything, completely made it up.)

Durandal · Post by **Durandal** » 2004-06-04 10:29am

According to Ed Helms on The Daily Show last night, Tenet's personal reason given was that "he was tired of sucking at his job."

Admiral Valdemar · Post by **Admiral Valdemar** » 2004-06-04 10:41am

Durandal wrote:According to Ed Helms on The Daily Show last night, Tenet's personal reason given was that "he was tired of sucking at his job."

I can see that being an adequate reason to pack it in.

Post by **AdmiralKanos** » 2004-06-04 12:18pm

Durandal wrote:According to Ed Helms on The Daily Show last night, Tenet's personal reason given was that "he was tired of sucking at his job."

If only the President would recognize that he has similar reasons to resign.

Admiral Valdemar · Post by **Admiral Valdemar** » 2004-06-04 12:25pm

Rumsfeld's head will roll prior to Bush's, even if he did resign, which the man simply won't do until his human shields are all but exhausted.