China Bans Hearts of Iron

Bob McDob · Post by **Bob McDob** » 2004-05-29 08:57pm

Insert witty phrase here:

The link! It burns us! It buuuuurns us!

RedImperator · Post by **RedImperator** » 2004-05-29 09:03pm

I don't get it. Are they disputing the fact the Japanese controlled Formosa in 1936, or that Manchuria was a Japanese-controlled puppet state?

kojikun · Post by **kojikun** » 2004-05-29 09:29pm

RedImperator wrote:I don't get it. Are they disputing the fact the Japanese controlled Formosa in 1936, or that Manchuria was a Japanese-controlled puppet state?

Yes. << insert some witty reference to 1984 here >>

InnocentBystander · Post by **InnocentBystander** » 2004-05-29 10:19pm

I'd say thats funnier than the german ban of RtCW.

Illuminatus Primus · Post by **Illuminatus Primus** » 2004-05-29 11:01pm

InnocentBystander wrote:I'd say thats funnier than the german ban of RtCW.

What?

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2004-05-29 11:15pm

RedImperator wrote:I don't get it. Are they disputing the fact the Japanese controlled Formosa in 1936, or that Manchuria was a Japanese-controlled puppet state?

Yeah, that and disputing the fact that several idependent countries that existed and were invaded afterwards. Basically more "they're historically Chinese" excuses for countries they've invaded.

Icehawk · Post by **Icehawk** » 2004-05-30 01:03am

Illuminatus Primus wrote:
InnocentBystander wrote:I'd say thats funnier than the german ban of RtCW.
What?

I think he means Return to Castle Wolfenstein. Personally I hadn't heard about it being banned either. But seeing how nazi sensitive modern Germany is, they probably banned it just because it had swastikas in it or something like that.

Pablo Sanchez · Post by **Pablo Sanchez** » 2004-05-30 01:33am

Icehawk wrote:I think he means Return to Castle Wolfenstein. Personally I hadn't heard about it being banned either. But seeing how nazi sensitive modern Germany is, they probably banned it just because it had swastikas in it or something like that.

It's understandable that it's a sensitive subject in Germany. At least they're dealing with their terrible history better than the Japanese, who sometimes seem like they're trying to just make it disappear.

2000AD · Post by **2000AD** » 2004-05-30 08:42am

Pablo Sanchez wrote:
Icehawk wrote:I think he means Return to Castle Wolfenstein. Personally I hadn't heard about it being banned either. But seeing how nazi sensitive modern Germany is, they probably banned it just because it had swastikas in it or something like that.
It's understandable that it's a sensitive subject in Germany. At least they're dealing with their terrible history better than the Japanese, who sometimes seem like they're trying to just make it disappear.

Wasn't Medal of Honour: Rising Sun a best seller in Japan?

Lonestar · Post by **Lonestar** » 2004-05-30 09:18am

My head hurts.

*goes off to play HoI*

Sarevok · Post by **Sarevok** » 2004-05-30 09:47am

It is only a game, it does not matter if it is historicaly accurate or not. The chineese goverment needs to grow up and understand this.

Post by **The Yosemite Bear** » 2004-05-30 12:32pm

lol...

ohhh, yeah

now could someone explain to me why the 1.5 patch won't work?

I have version 1.2 that came off the disk in the bargin bin....

PeZook · Post by **PeZook** » 2004-05-30 03:06pm

The entire reason for banning the game makes no sense to me. They probably got offended because winning as Mao was damn hard, and you could stomp his little commie rebellion easily as Nationalistic China

acesand8s · Post by **acesand8s** » 2004-05-30 03:22pm

The Yosemite Bear wrote:lol...

ohhh, yeah

now could someone explain to me why the 1.5 patch won't work?

I have version 1.2 that came off the disk in the bargin bin....

Do you uninstall the game, then reinstall, then install the 1.5 patch? Aren't they up to 1.06 now anyway?

Super-Gagme · Post by **Super-Gagme** » 2004-05-30 03:51pm

Yep, 1.06. But even if we weren't, he painted one hell of a picture about his problem. "It's brooooken. Fiiiiixxxx!!!"

Admiral Valdemar · Post by **Admiral Valdemar** » 2004-06-02 05:11pm

Pablo Sanchez wrote:
Icehawk wrote:I think he means Return to Castle Wolfenstein. Personally I hadn't heard about it being banned either. But seeing how nazi sensitive modern Germany is, they probably banned it just because it had swastikas in it or something like that.
It's understandable that it's a sensitive subject in Germany. At least they're dealing with their terrible history better than the Japanese, who sometimes seem like they're trying to just make it disappear.

Actually, the German version had the swastikas replaced with the game logo to allow sale.

acesand8s · Post by **acesand8s** » 2004-06-02 06:31pm

Paradox responds

Following the ban of Hearts of Iron in China, Paradox Entertainment CEO Theodore Bergquist comments:

First and foremost, we are game-makers and do not have any political agenda, except to create the best games we can. To that end we always employ the most thorough historical researchers and resources available.

We recognize that World War II is still a sensitive topic for some governments, but we have always earned respect from our game-playing customers because of our integrity and historical accuracy—and that is what matters most to us.

HemlockGrey · Post by **HemlockGrey** » 2004-06-02 07:36pm

Paradox wouldn't put the Holocaust in HOI, won't put it OR the officer purges in HOI2, and competely jipped the slave trade in EU2, so you can't possibly accuse them of being "unsensitive".

Post by **Vympel** » 2004-06-03 02:34am

No officer purges? Serious?

PrinceofLowLight · Post by **PrinceofLowLight** » 2004-06-03 05:27pm

Eh? The officer purges are one of the things that actually makes playing the USSR difficult in HoI.

Raptor 597 · Post by **Raptor 597** » 2004-06-03 08:46pm

Vympel wrote:No officer purges? Serious?

Yeah, Paradox is going soft of us. We basically have real wargamers asking on the boards some limited R&D and equipment production (such as choosing what want in a Panzer Division, Shep was a major pusher in the movement) and said no all we can do is select build Panzer III Panzer division. I would hope they actually bother to make a stronger engine and it could be a better game.

Post by **Alyrium Denryle** » 2004-06-03 09:15pm

evilcat4000 wrote:It is only a game, it does not matter if it is historicaly accurate or not. The chineese goverment needs to grow up and understand this.

But they wont, because they are ChiComs