Is it even remotely possible for Starfleet to defeat....

[RayCav of ASVS]

Him

[Spanky The Dolphin]

Stop it, Ray.

[Darth Wong]

Ray, that picture was really cool ... the first time you posted it. It's starting to get old.

[Kuja]

I'm with Spanky and DW.

But, to answer the question: NO.

[RayCav of ASVS]

Ray, that picture was really cool ... the first time you posted it. It's starting to get old.

Just answer the question, me lord

[Kuja]

I answered it...

[Mr Bean]

Yes they can

A Single Defiant if its intellgent enough to stand off and lob torps at it till Unicron goes down hard

[starfury]

no

[Galvatron]

Only the accursed Autobot Matrix of Leadership can destroy Unicron!

[Sea Skimmer]

With the right tactics, yes.

[VF5SS]

Go Orsen Wells!

[Guest]

i agree, that pic is getting very old. get a new one

[2000AD]

Go Orsen Wells!

WTF?

[willburns84]

Orson Wells, if memory serves, was the voice of Unicron in Transformers: The Movie...

[Vendetta]

Orson Wells, if memory serves, was the voice of Unicron in Transformers: The Movie...

He was. [pedant]Orson Welles was anyway[/pedant]

[seanrobertson]

Him

Hell yes. The frickin' EARTH ALLIANCE would whip his ass,
let alone the Federation.

Did you miss the part of the film in which the Dinobots tear boulder-
sized gashes in Unicron's skin with low-velocity physical impacts
(tail swipes)? Or the Dino who breathed "fire" and easily melted
through the same hull?

The only thing that didn't seem real effective against Uni was
Transformer-style "lasers." And frankly, those weapons *suck.*
In "Call of the Primitives," of the season following the movie,
the Autobots and Decepticons were doing battle on Luna, and
both sides were afforded impenetrable cover from a pile of
Lunar-style sand dunes. Shots from both sides, notably those
coming from mighty Galvatron, failed to even kick up dust!
Hand phasers can do better than that, for God's sake.

I loved the Transformers, but this magical treatment of the
Matrix and awe of Unicron's size (not all that impressive...
he's no more than 10 km tall in the movie) is, to be blunt,
a little silly. The Matrix itself didn't do anything except make
Unicron's systems self-destruct. Big deal...detonate a nuke in
his lap, and the EMP might do the same thing. That's something
a single TIE Bomber could do!

By extension, so could Starfleet, if not with nukes, then
with sheer firepower. You could easily rig a *Runabout* to
incapacitate Unicron. We know his eye lenses are just big pieces of
a glass-like material (that Quintesson ship blew right through them),
so load your Runabout with some nasty explosives, phaser out
the eye, and fly into his body. Detonate the explosives and
watch the parts fly.

At least, I *assume* blowing up his head would do the job.
His head seemed to contain much of his cognitive functions,
evident in the fact that the thing managed to talk to people
and do stuff after it was decapitated.

And Ray, it is a neat picture. Since I've never seen it before
I'm impressed But, how come Scorponok is so tiny? In
the cartoon, he was a giant robot.

[RayCav of ASVS]

I didn't see anything in the movie about Dinobots fighting Unicron or taking heads...

[VF5SS]

Well there's always comic Unicron who is the god of chaos. He consumed the previous universe except for one speck which exploded in the big bang.Though Trek always seems to kill gods...

[Raoul Duke, Jr.]

They could defeat it easily. Just subject it to a good talking-to by Weasley Crasher. It'll kill itself.

[Galvatron]

By extension, so could Starfleet, if not with nukes, then with sheer firepower. You could easily rig a *Runabout* to
incapacitate Unicron. We know his eye lenses are just big pieces of
a glass-like material (that Quintesson ship blew right through them),
so load your Runabout with some nasty explosives, phaser out
the eye, and fly into his body. Detonate the explosives and
watch the parts fly.

Tried and failed. Remember when Jazz and Spike detonated their moon base inside Unicron's maw?

And Ray, it is a neat picture. Since I've never seen it before I'm impressed But, how come Scorponok is so tiny? In
the cartoon, he was a giant robot.

In the comic, which the pic is based on (notice Powermaster Optimus Prime), Scorponok was no larger than any of the other Decepticon leaders.

[seanrobertson]

Tried and failed. Remember when Jazz and Spike detonated their moon base inside Unicron's maw?

Yes, definitely. But his maw would probably be more heavily
armored than any other part of his body...and to be very
hard-assed about it, we really have no idea how large of
an explosion we saw. The TFs never displayed the ability
to harness or utilize energy even on a nuclear scale...the
Decepticons were constantly at a waterfall using hydro-power
to satisfy their energon needs (at least early on). To
be sure, a semi-functional moon will require a lot more juice,
but how much more?

In the comic, which the pic is based on (notice Powermaster Optimus Prime), Scorponok was no larger than any of the other Decepticon leaders.

Interesting. I've only known him as a snarling monster-like thing,
save for his scheming, nasty Nebulon "headmaster."

[seanrobertson]

I didn't see anything in the movie about Dinobots fighting Unicron or taking heads...

They did, toward the very end of the film. They didn't do a lot
of damage by any means, but they were able to penetrate
Uni's hull.

The talking head thing comes from after the movie,
beginning in a multi-part series featuring the Quintessons,
an energy bereft Decepticon bunch, Cyclonus, Scourge, and
the Sweeps looking for Galvatron, etc. The head "groans";
Cyclonus says, "Must be the wind..." Scourge replies,
"There is no wind in space!"

Later, the head is fully functional, and promises to restore
Starscream's "ghost" to life if he will attach Uni's head to
Cybertron.

I don't know the episode names...I think the series right
after the film was "Five Faces of Death" or something
similar, though.

[RayCav of ASVS]

I didn't see anything in the movie about Dinobots fighting Unicron or taking heads...

They did, toward the very end of the film. They didn't do a lot
of damage by any means, but they were able to penetrate
Uni's hull.

The talking head thing comes from after the movie,
beginning in a multi-part series featuring the Quintessons,
an energy bereft Decepticon bunch, Cyclonus, Scourge, and
the Sweeps looking for Galvatron, etc. The head "groans";
Cyclonus says, "Must be the wind..." Scourge replies,
"There is no wind in space!"

Later, the head is fully functional, and promises to restore
Starscream's "ghost" to life if he will attach Uni's head to
Cybertron.

I don't know the episode names...I think the series right
after the film was "Five Faces of Death" or something
similar, though.

Hmmm, sounds good...tell me more!

[VF5SS]

Interesting. I've only known him as a snarling monster-like thing,
save for his scheming, nasty Nebulon "headmaster."

And taht my friend is why you should waste no more time with the silly TF cartoon and read the comics

[SWPIGWANG]

Unicron is slowly disassembled by transporters.