STGOD 4 OOC Thread

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2004-06-02 09:56pm

Pablo Sanchez wrote:Pablo is going to be incommunicado through tomorrow and most of Friday, possibly Saturday as well. Very busy with real life.

I'll be busy tomorrow evening but I can ride herd on this for a couple days if people want.

InnocentBystander · Post by **InnocentBystander** » 2004-06-02 11:16pm

Pablo Sanchez wrote:Pablo is going to be incommunicado through tomorrow and most of Friday

Not only that, but Pablo is speaking in the third person

Post by **Beowulf** » 2004-06-03 02:01am

I'll point out that someone else has the ability to come back from basically having their bodies turned into rapidly expanding clouds of plasma. The only real difference is that mine is magical, and his is technological.

No one else seems to mind the fact that another power has declared replicator technology, and doesn't have much of a limit on what they can build besides time.

So for those of you having objections, bear the above in mind.

Mostly, the original concept of the direct conversion was to avoid the pitfalls of A/M while still having a similar power output, so as to remain competitive.

Now please excuse me while I go and edit my ORBAT.

SirNitram · Post by **SirNitram** » 2004-06-03 02:14am

Beowulf wrote:I'll point out that someone else has the ability to come back from basically having their bodies turned into rapidly expanding clouds of plasma. The only real difference is that mine is magical, and his is technological.

Wrong. The real difference is there is a way to permenantly kill one of them.

No one else seems to mind the fact that another power has declared replicator technology, and doesn't have much of a limit on what they can build besides time.

If you're referring to me, Replicator is simply the name of the Construct. Because what does it do? It replicates. They are not some magic device that transmutes(Although the Overseer likely can do that, it requires a massive fusion core on-site to provide the ridiculous energy expenditures.).

Post by **Beowulf** » 2004-06-03 02:38am

SirNitram wrote:
Beowulf wrote:I'll point out that someone else has the ability to come back from basically having their bodies turned into rapidly expanding clouds of plasma. The only real difference is that mine is magical, and his is technological.
Wrong. The real difference is there is a way to permenantly kill one of them.

Besides destroying a persons empire?

No one else seems to mind the fact that another power has declared replicator technology, and doesn't have much of a limit on what they can build besides time.
If you're referring to me, Replicator is simply the name of the Construct. Because what does it do? It replicates. They are not some magic device that transmutes(Although the Overseer likely can do that, it requires a massive fusion core on-site to provide the ridiculous energy expenditures.).

Actually, I was referring to Dahak's again, which apparently doesn't have anyone doing any actual work...

SirNitram · Post by **SirNitram** » 2004-06-03 02:59am

Beowulf wrote:
SirNitram wrote:
Beowulf wrote:I'll point out that someone else has the ability to come back from basically having their bodies turned into rapidly expanding clouds of plasma. The only real difference is that mine is magical, and his is technological.
Wrong. The real difference is there is a way to permenantly kill one of them.
Besides destroying a persons empire?

Yea, corrupting a section of data.

But if he's made himself invincible, weeeeell, that's why I exist. I bring low the mighty.

Dahak · Post by **Dahak** » 2004-06-03 05:49am

Beowulf wrote: Actually, I was referring to Dahak's again, which apparently doesn't have anyone doing any actual work...

There is work done. But mostly by either robots or bodies controlled by the computer system.

And having replication technology doesn't mean my ships just pop into existance. They need time to be constructed, just as anything else. My new ship class I introduced ages ago is still being constructed. It didn't just float out of the construction slip perfectly working.

Murazor · Post by **Murazor** » 2004-06-03 07:45am

Well. For those who have read Deathgate, my civilization is an AU where the sartan managed to pull their stunt and the Sundered Realms were united under their command, there was no intervention by the Powers-that-be and the patryn became the sartan underlings after a long and unpleasant stay in the Laberynth.

They control four elemental realms (worlds that coexist within the same pocket dimension in slightly different planes of existence linked through magical gravity singularities dubbed Deathgates) and a fifth one, the Nexus, where the Laberynth used to be and that now is a buffer zone between the Sundered Realms and a Dimensional Vortex (TM) oppened by the sartan that ends in a backwater star system near the borders of known space.

They intend to conquer every less magically capable civilization in the multiverse for their own good, saving the poor childlike mensch (despective nickname for every species with less magical potential than the sartan) and after millenia of being worshipped by the mensch of the Sundered Realms (elves, humans and dwarves) as gods they have started to believe that they are so. They are arrogant as hell and while they have some advantages, it isn't unlikely that they will soon be in the hit list of every Known Space power.

InnocentBystander · Post by **InnocentBystander** » 2004-06-03 08:42am

Beowulf wrote:
SirNitram wrote:
Beowulf wrote:I'll point out that someone else has the ability to come back from basically having their bodies turned into rapidly expanding clouds of plasma. The only real difference is that mine is magical, and his is technological.
Wrong. The real difference is there is a way to permenantly kill one of them.
Besides destroying a persons empire?

Destroying one's empire doesn't mean the destruction of all the beings that lived under it. Consider the floaters as just one of many examples. Hell, after the Genocide wars basically all empires were destroyed, was the galaxy lifeless? Nope! I'm calling you on that, being vaporized is the end. If you envy Dahak's "ability" then copy his, but your entire culture has to reflect this, I wouldn't say the Gladshiem are a hivemind, but they are not far from it.

No one else seems to mind the fact that another power has declared replicator technology, and doesn't have much of a limit on what they can build besides time.
If you're referring to me, Replicator is simply the name of the Construct. Because what does it do? It replicates. They are not some magic device that transmutes(Although the Overseer likely can do that, it requires a massive fusion core on-site to provide the ridiculous energy expenditures.).

Actually, I was referring to Dahak's again, which apparently doesn't have anyone doing any actual work...[/quote][/quote]
Replication tech, like that found in Stargate is beyond our tech range. Nano-tech is still primitive. Needless to say you can't just take a chunk of nickel/iron and get a ship part out of it, that's still a long ways off, they can't even do that in Star Wars cheaply, if you want stuff you have to mine, refine and process rare ores, can't get around that.

Also, you still need to add your holdings; what systems or at least how many.

Straha · Post by **Straha** » 2004-06-03 04:58pm

InnocentBystander wrote:Crayz9000 are you playing in this STGOD, I don't see your OOB.

No he's not, but he knows he wants to join, doesn't he?

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2004-06-03 10:17pm

Well. For those who have read Deathgate<Snip>

Now for those of that haven't can you give an explanation of just what the heck all that means?

Post by **Beowulf** » 2004-06-03 11:27pm

SirNitram wrote:
Yea, corrupting a section of data.

But if he's made himself invincible, weeeeell, that's why I exist. I bring low the mighty.

Avoiding data corruption is what RAID is for. Given the instanenous nature of his (and for that matter, mine) comms, the storage does not necessarily have near each other.

InnocentBystander · Post by **InnocentBystander** » 2004-06-03 11:29pm

Murazor wrote:They are arrogant as hell and while they have some advantages..."

What sort of advantages? You are aware that all empires must be of a certain strength in the beginning. Starting late in the game puts your empire at a serious disadvantage, all the early empires will have somewhat stronger navies and/or veteran crews. By starting now you are acutally at a disadvantage.

SirNitram · Post by **SirNitram** » 2004-06-05 09:56pm

I'm really wondering if anyone realizes how far out to lunch Straha's admiral is. Then again, I don't think anyone else has seen the map to know.

Straha · Post by **Straha** » 2004-06-05 09:59pm

SirNitram wrote:I'm really wondering if anyone realizes how far out to lunch Straha's admiral is. Then again, I don't think anyone else has seen the map to know.

Wait, aren't there holdings of yours nearby?

And yes, he is somewhat of a loon, a genius at times but a loon none the less. That's why I like him and sorta resurrected him from the first STGOD.

SirNitram · Post by **SirNitram** » 2004-06-05 10:00pm

Straha wrote:
SirNitram wrote:I'm really wondering if anyone realizes how far out to lunch Straha's admiral is. Then again, I don't think anyone else has seen the map to know.
Wait, aren't there holdings of yours nearby?

True. But he's proposing staying out here for a year!

Straha · Post by **Straha** » 2004-06-05 10:06pm

SirNitram wrote:
Straha wrote:
SirNitram wrote:I'm really wondering if anyone realizes how far out to lunch Straha's admiral is. Then again, I don't think anyone else has seen the map to know.
Wait, aren't there holdings of yours nearby?
True. But he's proposing staying out here for a year!

No, year and a half. Nine months going, nine months coming back. And yes, as I said, he's an overly aggressive nutcase at times, but he's also a genius tactician. One day I'm going to post the entire back story to the Navy that includes this. I half worked it out to post, but I never actually finished it.

SirNitram · Post by **SirNitram** » 2004-06-05 10:08pm

Straha wrote:
SirNitram wrote:
Straha wrote: Wait, aren't there holdings of yours nearby?
True. But he's proposing staying out here for a year!
No, year and a half. Nine months going, nine months coming back. And yes, as I said, he's an overly aggressive nutcase at times, but he's also a genius tactician. One day I'm going to post the entire back story to the Navy that includes this. I half worked it out to post, but I never actually finished it.

Genius tactician, lobotomized strategist from what he's proposing.. It's not like he's got anything for support out there. I just want to convey the madness of what he's doing. The Overseer could literally wear him down with DD's simply because it's got the supply chain and he don't.

Straha · Post by **Straha** » 2004-06-05 10:13pm

SirNitram wrote: Genius tactician, lobotomized strategist from what he's proposing.. It's not like he's got anything for support out there. I just want to convey the madness of what he's doing. The Overseer could literally wear him down with DD's simply because it's got the supply chain and he don't.

Yup, I know it's completley stupid from anyone who knows strategy 101. But he doesn't, the only reason he's got this fleet is because the Astral Navy has no one better (not that he's stupid, mind you, he's just selectivly brilliant.) Besides, do you really expect him to follow all the way through on this?

SirNitram · Post by **SirNitram** » 2004-06-05 10:14pm

Straha wrote:
SirNitram wrote: Genius tactician, lobotomized strategist from what he's proposing.. It's not like he's got anything for support out there. I just want to convey the madness of what he's doing. The Overseer could literally wear him down with DD's simply because it's got the supply chain and he don't.
Yup, I know it's completley stupid from anyone who knows strategy 101. But he doesn't, the only reason he's got this fleet is because the Astral Navy has no one better (not that he's stupid, mind you, he's just selectivly brilliant.) Besides, do you really expect him to follow all the way through on this?

No Mr. Bond. I expect him to die.[/Bond Villain]

Post by **Beowulf** » 2004-06-06 01:53am

Dahak wrote:
Beowulf wrote: Actually, I was referring to Dahak's again, which apparently doesn't have anyone doing any actual work...
There is work done. But mostly by either robots or bodies controlled by the computer system.

And having replication technology doesn't mean my ships just pop into existance. They need time to be constructed, just as anything else. My new ship class I introduced ages ago is still being constructed. It didn't just float out of the construction slip perfectly working.

So nobody actually does any physical work then. It just takes time... Whee! Exactly as I've said... So I'll just add in my holdings, Couple systems way the hell away from Known Space... And join in...

InnocentBystander · Post by **InnocentBystander** » 2004-06-06 03:14am

I know your the mod and all Pablo, but I think you might have neglected something very important regarding Krasus. The Monacorans would have kept him in a state where he would be unable to cast spells. It is more likely that his entire body would be strapped, or even melted to a table, hooked up to a machine pumping generous amounts of chemicals into him to make sure he stays unconscious.
There might even be a couple well armed/armored guards in the room with him, or at the very least an automatic gun or two. You certainly wouldn't have a problem dealing with them, but you wouldn't get a conversation out of Krasus.

Thirdfain · Post by **Thirdfain** » 2004-06-06 09:40am

Pah! no worries, I'll fly out a Fleet Tender to support him, and Straha will be roight, then!

Darksider · Post by **Darksider** » 2004-06-06 10:07am

Straha will have support from my third fleet as soon as it can get back to Krytos and load up on supplies.

Pablo Sanchez · Post by **Pablo Sanchez** » 2004-06-06 11:56am

InnocentBystander wrote:I know your the mod and all Pablo,

That means nothing with regard to what I am allowed to do in this STGOD, I have no more rights than any other player.

You certainly wouldn't have a problem dealing with them, but you wouldn't get a conversation out of Krasus.

A legitimate concern. However, the entire thing was cleared with Straha prior to posting it, had he any such failsafes he would have addressed them to me at that time.