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Uraniun235 wrote: Okay... so what are you going to do? The cops did fire at him, several times... they couldn't penetrate the armor. So what use would killing him be when the killdozer was down and they could finally get at the armor with explosive charges?
What?

Hey, if they would have captured him alive that's fine too. I'm just saying him dying is not tragic in any sense.

I just can't believe people would root for a guy that may have devastated the lives of other people, even in jest. Nobody died, but some peoples lives could be seriously effected by this and that's what upsets me.
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I will say that it is too bad he was pushed to the edge like that. I do feel sorry for him in that respect, but that is it.
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Uraniun235 wrote:Nobody was hurt.
Incorrect. Plenty of people where hurt when their businesses and livelyhoods were ruined thanks to this idiot.
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In regard to the "bulldozer in DC" point brought up earlier, I remember one sitting in the reflecting pool for a while. The really scary thing is the comment in the last article Shep posted about how this is the *second* bulldozer rampage in Colorado.

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I think this is the best way to summarize this;

Turning a tractor into a tank: Cool idea
The concept of a rampage using that: Cool Idea
In endangered lives directly: Bad
He's severely altered lives in a negative way: Bad idea
He's dead: He knew the risks

That he took on city hall like this: Movie of the week
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He should've started a junkyard wars, battle bots or monster garage team instead.
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beyond hope wrote:In regard to the "bulldozer in DC" point brought up earlier, I remember one sitting in the reflecting pool for a while.
But without many tons of armor plate all that would be requried to end such a rampage would be a few bullets from a police officers pistol, and seeings how none of these things can break even 10mph the danger presented is pretty low.
The really scary thing is the comment in the last article Shep posted about how this is the *second* bulldozer rampage in Colorado.
The other one was with an unprotected backhoe, a much less powerful piece of wheeled excavating equipment.

The bulldozer used in this case was a D-5 for the record; the reports of it being a D-9 are false. The difference in earth shaping power is pretty big, the D-9 has about four times the horse power and weighs over 100,000 pounds vs. the 30,000 odd pounds of the D-5.
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An interesting question would be: given all the privately owned tanks out there, why have none of them been hijacked and taken on a rampage?
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BlkbrryTheGreat wrote:An interesting question would be: given all the privately owned tanks out there, why have none of them been hijacked and taken on a rampage?
When you own something like that you tend to protect it very well, and people simply don't go on heavy equipment rampages very often. The odds of someone deciding to go on such a rampage and having a privately owned tank readily available for theft are pretty low I would expect.
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Kamakazie Sith wrote:I will say that it is too bad he was pushed to the edge like that. I do feel sorry for him in that respect, but that is it.
That's fair.
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Has the story about the two 10 year olds doing $500,000 worth of damage at a construction site made it on SD.net yet?
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I've read that the armor on it was foot thick steel and concrete, and he had 3 CCTV cameras and monitors to see where he was going.


BTW, Tom Clancy's Sherman is just sitting out on his lawn ( been to his house).
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