Bush: Corporotist Dixiecrat?

AdmiralSovereign · Post by **AdmiralSovereign** » 2004-06-06 01:10pm

These are my definitions, I do not claim that they are the only or correct definitions! There. Enough butt-covering.
Corporatism - a form of government that Benito Mussolini used before switching to Facism. This government set up the entire country like a corporation. For instance: US Department of State would be the Corporation of State Matters or something. A "CEO" would run each "branch" and report to the head "CEO", that is, head of state. THe "CEO" of the State Corp would only be accountable to those above him/her. AFAIK, corporatism says nothing about whether leaders should be elected.
Dixiecrat: a person who, in the 60's, claimed that segregation was justified because it was a "state's choice" to create segregation. Nowadays, "Dixiecrats" have moved into the neocon camp.
Given Bush's record of staunchly defending all corporations from taxes or competition so long as they support him, is Bush a Dixecrat-Corporatist?
BTW: It is said that Republicans prefer a corporate style hierarchy where there is a person at the top.

Son of the Suns · Post by **Son of the Suns** » 2004-06-06 01:15pm

AdmiralSovereign wrote:These are my definitions, I do not claim that they are the only or correct definitions! There. Enough butt-covering.
Corporatism - a form of government that Benito Mussolini used before switching to Facism. This government set up the entire country like a corporation. For instance: US Department of State would be the Corporation of State Matters or something. A "CEO" would run each "branch" and report to the head "CEO", that is, head of state. THe "CEO" of the State Corp would only be accountable to those above him/her. AFAIK, corporatism says nothing about whether leaders should be elected.
Dixiecrat: a person who, in the 60's, claimed that segregation was justified because it was a "state's choice" to create segregation. Nowadays, "Dixiecrats" have moved into the neocon camp.
Given Bush's record of staunchly defending all corporations from taxes or competition so long as they support him, is Bush a Dixecrat-Corporatist?
BTW: It is said that Republicans prefer a corporate style hierarchy where there is a person at the top.

No, he's not. I'm not even going to debate that bit of rambling stupidity you threw togather. Come back when you have a theory that even remotely resembles reality.

RedImperator · Post by **RedImperator** » 2004-06-06 01:26pm

Proof that Bush is a segregationist is forthcoming, I'm sure. For Christ's sake, there's enough to attack the man on without making shit up.

Xenophobe3691 · Post by **Xenophobe3691** » 2004-06-06 01:28pm

Segregationist?!? Look at Powell and Condoleeza Rice! I doubt a segregationist would put those two up there, dontcha thinK?

Hamel · Post by **Hamel** » 2004-06-06 01:35pm

Dixiecrats become neocons? How did this guy come to that conclusion?

beyond hope · Post by **beyond hope** » 2004-06-06 01:37pm

Xenophobe3691 wrote:Segregationist?!? Look at Powell and Condoleeza Rice! I doubt a segregationist would put those two up there, dontcha thinK?

Rabid ABB'er:

"That's just Uncle Tom and, errr, Aunt Tom!"

Wicked Pilot · Post by **Wicked Pilot** » 2004-06-06 02:07pm

AdmiralSovereign really wrote:Look at me everybody, I hate Bush! I think he's a dirty poopoo head who likes big business and hates black people. In his off time he probably clubs baby seals for fun. I hate Bush! I want your acceptance. Everybody look at me!

Keevan_Colton · Post by **Keevan_Colton** » 2004-06-06 02:13pm

He might have been coming at this from the similar segregation/seperate but equal bullshit that Bush and so many others are pushing with regards to gay rights.

Cosmic Average · Post by **Cosmic Average** » 2004-06-06 02:14pm

Xenophobe3691 wrote:Segregationist?!? Look at Powell and Condoleeza Rice! I doubt a segregationist would put those two up there, dontcha thinK?

Segregation is not limited to race.

Ma Deuce · Post by **Ma Deuce** » 2004-06-06 02:38pm

Cosmic Average wrote:Segregation is not limited to race.

True, but I got the impression that was the context the Admiral had in mind...

Ma Deuce · Post by **Ma Deuce** » 2004-06-06 02:40pm

Cosmic Average wrote:Segregation is not limited to race.

True, but I got the impression that was the context the Admiral had in mind...

beyond hope · Post by **beyond hope** » 2004-06-06 02:40pm

If that's the case, it would have been a lot clearer in a form such as "much like the 60's segregationists opposed equal treatment for blacks, Bush opposes equal rights for gays" or some such phrasing.

Bob McDob · Post by **Bob McDob** » 2004-06-06 02:40pm

Also, weren't the Dixiecrats formed in 1948, not the 1960s?

Elfdart · Post by **Elfdart** » 2004-06-06 02:46pm

Actually, he's on to something. There's an excellent book by Michael Lind: Made In Texas that covers a lot of the same ground.

The modern GOP is a combination of the worst parts of crony capitalism (or corporate socialism, if you prefer), social darwinism, Dixiecrat race-baiting, and Paraguay-style militarism and despotism.

Whether Dubya himself is a racist or segregationist is a red herring. He owes his "election" to the fact that many thousands of black voters in Florida were illegally prevented from voting. He (and other Republicans)also made it a point to make a pilgrimmage to Bob Jones University, a white supremacist diploma mill. Overt and covert race-baiting (and Jew-baiting and gay-baiting) are an important part of his campaign this year -just as they were four years ago.

Jason von Evil · Post by **Jason von Evil** » 2004-06-06 02:50pm

Corporotist Dixiecrat? Sounds like something you'd see in the Urban Dictionary.

beyond hope · Post by **beyond hope** » 2004-06-06 02:52pm

Red herring?! What crack are you smoking? Whether or not he's a "corporatist dixiecrat" is the subject of the thread.

Plekhanov · Post by **Plekhanov** » 2004-06-06 03:19pm

AdmiralSovereign wrote:Dixiecrat: a person who, in the 60's, claimed that segregation was justified because it was a "state's choice" to create segregation. Nowadays, "Dixiecrats" have moved into the neocon camp.

Doesn’t Bush oppose the “state choice” on the issue of Gay marriage?

Ma Deuce · Post by **Ma Deuce** » 2004-06-06 03:23pm

Plekhanov wrote:Doesn’t Bush oppose the “state choice” on the issue of Gay marriage?

Of course he does: His attempt to introduce a Constitutional ammendment banning gay marriage (thus making it impossible for individual states to legalize it even if they wanted to) is ample proof of that...

Plekhanov · Post by **Plekhanov** » 2004-06-06 03:25pm

So what’s more important aspect of being a dixiecrat support for segregation (and not just racial) or state choice?

HemlockGrey · Post by **HemlockGrey** » 2004-06-06 06:50pm

Well, um, Bush is obviously bigoted, and he does have a hard-on for corporations, I would say that this assessment is not too far off the mark.

beyond hope · Post by **beyond hope** » 2004-06-06 11:06pm

The most important aspect of being a Dixiecrat is being a conservative southern Democrat, hence that "Dixie" right there in the name. Calling Bush one makes as much sense as calling Kerry a RINO.

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