Larger ships than SSSD/SSD?

AdmiralSovereign · Post by **AdmiralSovereign** » 2004-06-06 12:57pm

Death Stars don't count...Anyone know of credible evidence of a larger vessel?

RedImperator · Post by **RedImperator** » 2004-06-06 01:08pm

Executors are longer than both of them, but less massive. Other than that, there aren't any to my knowledge. Certainly no warships, anyway. There might well be transports bigger than that, considering how much material moves in the GFFA's economy, but I don't think they've ever been shown in the EU.

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2004-06-06 01:32pm

I'm not exactly sure what the title refers to, but I'll assume it's the Sovereign and Eclipse classes.

Super-Gagme · Post by **Super-Gagme** » 2004-06-06 03:24pm

How big was the Jedi training ship? Chu'unthor?

Illuminatus Primus · Post by **Illuminatus Primus** » 2004-06-06 03:25pm

2 km.

CaptainChewbacca · Post by **CaptainChewbacca** » 2004-06-06 03:54pm

The Telkjiron Vagabond was pretty huge, as was the Pride of Yevetha

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2004-06-06 04:06pm

Pride of Vevetha was just an Executor-class ship, while the Telkjiron Vagabond was only 1500 meters long.

Techno_Union · Post by **Techno_Union** » 2004-06-06 04:20pm

Granted not a ship actaully built, but an aged (and I mean AGED) World Devastator had the potential to get larger than a SSD/SSSD/ESSD. BUt they were destroyed, Godamn Rebels why won't THEY die!!!

Lord Pounder · Post by **Lord Pounder** » 2004-06-06 06:05pm

IIRC the Vong had several ships that massed more than a Executor Class Ship. Reference taken from Agents of Chaos. can't remember if it was part 1 or 2.

Connor MacLeod · Post by **Connor MacLeod** » 2004-06-06 11:23pm

The Eye of Palpatine (referred to as a "battlemoon" and a "dreadnought". It was implied also that there were Torpedo Spheres larger than an Executor-class/SSD as well...

Illuminatus Primus · Post by **Illuminatus Primus** » 2004-06-07 12:55am

I've seen that error before too. The ellipsoid Loronar Torpedo Spheres are actually only 2,900 meters in diameter along the semimajor axis of the longitudinal ellipse.

Nevertheless, The Essential Guide to Vehicles and Vessels says the SSDs were the largest ships ever not including Torpedo Spheres and the Death Star.

Who knows, maybe that was assumed thinking that a 2900 meter ellipsoid is more massive than a relatively flat, incorrectly-thought 8 km blade?

Connor MacLeod · Post by **Connor MacLeod** » 2004-06-07 02:02am

Illuminatus Primus wrote:I've seen that error before too. The ellipsoid Loronar Torpedo Spheres are actually only 2,900 meters in diameter along the semimajor axis of the longitudinal ellipse.

Nevertheless, The Essential Guide to Vehicles and Vessels says the SSDs were the largest ships ever not including Torpedo Spheres and the Death Star.

Who knows, maybe that was assumed thinking that a 2900 meter ellipsoid is more massive than a relatively flat, incorrectly-thought 8 km blade?

They're only 1900 meters in diameter, and odds are it was referring to the 8km one. But then again, why assume that only one kind of torpedo sphere exists, for that matter?

Jim Raynor · Post by **Jim Raynor** » 2004-06-07 03:46am

Or perhaps 1900 meters is a typo, and the true diameter of a Torpedo Sphere is 19,000 meters? I remember someone posting about a rogue Grand Admiral taking on another Grand Admiral's Executor-class (accompanied by an entire fleet) with a Torpedo Sphere. He was WINNING up until the SSD rammed his Torpedo Sphere, which destroyed both ships. That seems WAY too powerful to me for a ship that's only 1900 meters wide. I also doubt that a SSD would be destroyed in a collision with such a small ship. Didn't the Executor once endure a collision with three ISDs coming out of hyperspace, and only lost its shields?

Lex · Post by **Lex** » 2004-06-07 06:15am

omg a collsision with 3 SD, especially with the enormous speed they have when comin out of hyperspace, can't be suvived by and starship...

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2004-06-07 09:07am

AdmiralSovereign wrote:Death Stars don't count...Anyone know of credible evidence of a larger vessel?

The Eclipse is the same length as an SSD but much more massive. And why don't Death Stars count? The Death Star is a ship. It can maneuver. It can achieve interstellar pan-galactic travel under its own power. It's a spaceship.

Batman · Post by **Batman** » 2004-06-07 09:16am

Darth Wong wrote:
AdmiralSovereign wrote:Death Stars don't count...Anyone know of credible evidence of a larger vessel?
And why don't Death Stars count? The Death Star is a ship. It can maneuver. It can achieve interstellar pan-galactic travel under its own power. It's a spaceship.

Because everybody knows DeathStars outmass SSDs six ways from sunday and he'd like to know if there's anything else out there larger than an SSD that he doesn't know about?

The Kernel · Post by **The Kernel** » 2004-06-07 09:40am

I used to have a picture of a 200 km+ Star Destroyer that was complete with cloning facilities and a World Devastator, but I lost it somewhere. Plus it looked like RPG material to me so I don't think it was very high up on the canon scale.

phongn · Post by **phongn** » 2004-06-07 10:33am

The Kernel wrote:I used to have a picture of a 200 km+ Star Destroyer that was complete with cloning facilities and a World Devastator, but I lost it somewhere. Plus it looked like RPG material to me so I don't think it was very high up on the canon scale.

I've seen that one, I don't think it's canon period.

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2004-06-07 11:10am

phongn wrote:
The Kernel wrote:I used to have a picture of a 200 km+ Star Destroyer that was complete with cloning facilities and a World Devastator, but I lost it somewhere. Plus it looked like RPG material to me so I don't think it was very high up on the canon scale.
I've seen that one, I don't think it's canon period.

If you mean the Imperium, it's not. It was created by some fans as part of an RPG/Fanfic/Wet Dream. It's has no official standing so far as I know.

The Kernel · Post by **The Kernel** » 2004-06-07 04:42pm

Stormbringer wrote: If you mean the Imperium, it's not. It was created by some fans as part of an RPG/Fanfic/Wet Dream. It's has no official standing so far as I know.

That's the one. Well, even if it has no canon standing, it's still pretty cool in a fanwank kind of way.

Imperium-Class Star Destroyer

Howedar · Post by **Howedar** » 2004-06-07 05:05pm

If when you say "pretty cool" you mean "Why the fuck do you need a bridge that is several kilometers tall and dozens long" or "Why the fuck would you need to dock a fucking Executor for Christ's sakes", then yes it is indeed pretty cool.

Illuminatus Primus · Post by **Illuminatus Primus** » 2004-06-07 05:06pm

Connor MacLeod wrote:They're only 1900 meters in diameter, and odds are it was referring to the 8km one. But then again, why assume that only one kind of torpedo sphere exists, for that matter?

Oops, you're right. 1900 meters.

I don't assume, intrinsically, that there is one kind of Torpedo Sphere; there cannot be.

Extrinsically, its obvious someone didn't pay attention to their WEG source materials, someone talked about how huge the Torpedo Spheres were, and either in the EGtVV or the CotJ they wrote some bullshit about it being the largest ship other than the Death Star.

The Kernel · Post by **The Kernel** » 2004-06-07 05:11pm

Howedar wrote:If when you say "pretty cool" you mean "Why the fuck do you need a bridge that is several kilometers tall and dozens long" or "Why the fuck would you need to dock a fucking Executor for Christ's sakes", then yes it is indeed pretty cool.

This criticism can easily be addressed by pointing to the obvious small size of Palpy's penis. What, you don't think the Death Star's were overcompensation?

Solauren · Post by **Solauren** » 2004-06-07 05:34pm

I can actually envision Palpatine ordering something like Imperium build as the flagship for invading other galaxies

Illuminatus Primus · Post by **Illuminatus Primus** » 2004-06-07 05:58pm

Jim Raynor wrote:Or perhaps 1900 meters is a typo, and the true diameter of a Torpedo Sphere is 19,000 meters? I remember someone posting about a rogue Grand Admiral taking on another Grand Admiral's Executor-class (accompanied by an entire fleet) with a Torpedo Sphere. He was WINNING up until the SSD rammed his Torpedo Sphere, which destroyed both ships. That seems WAY too powerful to me for a ship that's only 1900 meters wide. I also doubt that a SSD would be destroyed in a collision with such a small ship. Didn't the Executor once endure a collision with three ISDs coming out of hyperspace, and only lost its shields?

It said the the Torpedo Sphere was the GADM's flagship, and didn't specify the other contents of his fleet.

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