Roy J Lores

[Darth Wong]

Yes, it's another imbecile ranting about "bias" without refuting anything specific:

Name: Roy J Lores
E-Mail: RJLCyberPunk@HotMail.com
Comments: This has to be the more Bias webpage in existence in the universe. Its very sad considering how much I love Star Wars and Star Trek, not to mention StarGate SG-1, Farscape etc.

Its terrible that instead of no nonsense crossover stories, what is dished out is pure AntiStar Trek bashing. Not taking into consideration even the vaporizing power of phasers for example when impacts solid objects, the fact that they can extremely acurate hit moving objects in space etc.

And also they picture photon and quantum torpedoes as no more than firecrackers when the yield is of multiple megatons.

And there's nothing to suggest that the people in the Star Wars universe would have such an aversion to technology such as teleportation and Replicators, in fact any side Empire or Alliance would be quick to pick them up to their advantage.

The only WebPage that truly had this in mind sadly its no more than a ghost page now its called Clash of the Titans and boy what they wrote was superb, regarding how the 2 cultures would react to each other.

I like to add that another great candidate for a crossover would be StarGate SG-1, although being bias as you guys are youd probably inmediately put the Goauld destroyers as nothing more than matchsticks and that the empire would probably wipe the Asgard clean even though they are an an ancient race capable of traveling between galaxies (something that neither Star Wars or Star Trek ships can do) and they can manipulate matter and transport it and or destroy it at will.

So far the only feeble attempt at such a great crossover is the Rogue Scuadron page.

Too bad, too bad for all of us true Science fiction fans that would love great no nonsense crossover stories, but at the present time thats obviously nothing more than wishfull thinking


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He followed this up almost immediately with a second message:

Name: Roy J Lores
E-Mail: RJLCyberPunk@HotMail.com
Comments: God Bless...

I've been eyeing your "Technical pages" regarding the basic absolute obsolecence of Star trek technology including teleportation, replication and weaponry, vs the God Like nature of StarWars Technology (Acording to you anyway). You mention quite a few episodes for proof and yet I saw plenty of episodes in which a single photon or quantum torpedo obliterates and or nearly destroys a large ship. You also make a comparison regarding an old STTNG episode in that they claim that it would take a whole arsenal of such weapons to destroy a very large asteroid and not taking into account what it composition was

What you failed to take into account is that at that time, our scientific knowledge of asteroids was extremely limited other than the rock or iron meteors that had fallen a long time on earth we didnt have any more data, until we sent probes to a near asteroid and realize how complex this celestial bodies really are.

But at any rate, if the yield of either a photon or quantum torpedo is that of a firecracker then how it can obliterate or nearly destroy a ship in one good hit.

Also you disdain with a vengeance those that claim (Including the harcore Warsie in your arena) that the "Turbo Laser" weapons in Star Wars are some kind of plasma weapon. That may be so, but given the rate of fire and the speed of the discharge its most definitely not traveling at light speed, as a a true laser would. So what kind of energy discharge do you claim a turbolaser is. you failed to mention that. it has to be something right. or is once again the Godlike StarWars weapon capable of destroying the whole universe Ancients and Asgard included in one single blast.

Just checking.

Funny that you despise so called trekbable and yet so openly give yourself to the spiritual abstractions of Star Wars such as the Sith (Yes Iread the above threat, I guess you consult quija boards from time to time right)

As I mentioned before I love both Star Wars and Star Trek and as such I'd love to see no nonsense non bias crossover stories, but as I stated before with bigotted trekkies and warsies (Like you) that will not likely happen in my lifetime (Guess I'll have to content myself with Alien Vs Predator this year)

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I answered thusly:

I noted with some interest that despite the great length of your posts, not one of your criticisms addressed a specific technical argument. All of them are childish rantings about what you perceive as general bias, with no quantitative analysis of anything whatsoever. Please feel free to E-mail back when you grow up.

[Darth Wong]

He responded with:

Name: Roy J Lores
E-Mail: RJLCyberPunk@HotMail.com

I noted with some interest that despite the great length of your posts, not one of your criticisms addressed a specific technical argument. All of them are childish rantings about what you perceive as general bias, with no quantitative analysis of anything whatsoever. Please feel free to E-mail back when you grow up.

Wow is that so! How conveniently you missed the portions about the photon or quantum torpedos and the question regarding the according to you GodLike "TurboLaser" works and is, but that shouldn't surprise me your fame precedes you Mr Wong as the called "Warsies" (or should I say "Ultra-Warsies" because you dont even agree with most mainstream "warsies" anyway) you would be the commander in chief and to boot there are so called Trekkies that are just as fascists as you.

The one clear thing is that your webpage aims to bash all scifi shows (Star Trek, StarGate, Farscape, it wont matter) in the head with the supposed omnipotence of the StarWars TurboLaser. Ive seen the photos of StarTrek ships with the forbidden simbol on top as in a no smoking sign, now if that's not bias then I don't know what is (Guess the Nazis werent so bias with the Jews after all) and the thing is It would not surprise in the least that you'll target StarGate SG-1 and all other similar shows in the exact same manner, Ill probalbly see a photo of a Stargate and a Goauld ship with the same banned logo on top the next time I visit your webpage.

By the way I apologize for the Quija reference in my previous post although I still find cursing those that differ in opinion from you as troubling at best. You can try to crush & destroy mainstream Warsies, Trekkies and Scifi fans all you want, I guarantee that it'll never really make you feel better just empty. All that hate and rage that you have wont go by bashing people left and right and never answering their questions. The truth is that the only one that can fill that void thats eating you inside its Jesus himself if you let him.

You can hate me all you want and probably think about cutting me into little pieces and throw them at the sea for the sharks to pick. I harbor you no ill will. I hope one day you will see the light for your sake and your family's.

May the Lord keep you, may he lift his divine countenance upon you and give you peace.

Not bad, eh? I don't like Trek so I must be a fascist and a Nazi! I responded with:

Name: Roy J Lores
E-Mail: RJLCyberPunk@HotMail.com

"I noted with some interest that despite the great length of your posts, not one of your criticisms addressed a specific technical argument. All of them are childish rantings about what you perceive as general bias, with no quantitative analysis of anything whatsoever. Please feel free to E-mail back when you grow up."

Wow is that so! How conveniently you missed the portions about the photon or quantum torpedos

You mean the part where you said "And also they picture photon and quantum torpedoes as no more than firecrackers when the yield is of multiple megatons." even though I hardly diminish them to firecrackers, you fail to present a single piece of evidence for your claim, and there are no numbers in this argument? How does that disprove my characterization of your arguments as nothing but a simple-minded accusation of bias?

and the question regarding the according to you GodLike "TurboLaser" works and is,

An "appeal to ignorance" fallacy does not disprove any of my arguments, nor does it qualify as a quantitative analysis. I see the concept of an actual rebuttal is still not getting through to you.

but that shouldn't surprise me your fame precedes you Mr Wong as the called "Warsies" (or should I say "Ultra-Warsies" because you dont even agree with most mainstream "warsies" anyway) you would be the commander in chief and to boot there are so called Trekkies that are just as fascists as you.

The one clear thing is that your webpage aims to bash all scifi shows (Star Trek, StarGate, Farscape, it wont matter) in the head with the supposed omnipotence of the StarWars TurboLaser.

News flash: you cannot refute an argument by showing that it is "biased". In fact, virtually all arguments are biased in favour of themselves (gee, what a surprise), and the only question is how hard they try to conceal it. You still must provide evidence that something is actually wrong with the argument, and you have failed to do so.

Ive seen the photos of StarTrek ships with the forbidden simbol on top as in a no smoking sign, now if that's not bias then I don't know what is (Guess the Nazis werent so bias with the Jews after all) and the thing is It would not surprise in the least that you'll target StarGate SG-1 and all other similar shows in the exact same manner, Ill probalbly see a photo of a Stargate and a Goauld ship with the same banned logo on top the next time I visit your webpage.

Congratulations. You're the first person who has ever tried to disprove my arguments by attacking my silly little "No Enterprise Allowed" picture.

By the way I apologize for the Quija reference in my previous post although I still find cursing those that differ in opinion from you as troubling at best.

Cursing is irrelevant. There is no functional distinction between a politely worded put-down and a vulgar one, and the only reason that certain slang-words are considered "vulgar" is a ridiculous Victorian-era neurosis about bodily functions and sex.

You can try to crush & destroy mainstream Warsies, Trekkies and Scifi fans all you want, I guarantee that it'll never really make you feel better just empty. All that hate and rage that you have wont go by bashing people left and right and never answering their questions. The truth is that the only one that can fill that void thats eating you inside its Jesus himself if you let him.

What makes you think I'm filled with hate and rage? You honestly think that if I say Star Trek is weak or poorly written, it must be because of "hate and rage"? Is that honestly the way your mind works? Somebody who bashes the lousy quality of Star Trek writing or says that the Enterprise-D can't stand up to a Star Destroyer must be a horrible, hate-filled person? Are you for real?

You can hate me all you want and probably think about cutting me into little pieces and throw them at the sea for the sharks to pick. I harbor you no ill will. I hope one day you will see the light for your sake and your family's.

I can't believe you assume that anybody who bashes Star Trek probably dreams of murdering people. You need help. Real help, not that self-help shit you've been ordering from late-night TV infomercials.

May the Lord keep you, may he lift his divine countenance upon you and give you peace.

Believe whatever you want, but your bizarre assumption that EVERYONE in the world needs YOUR religion to have a good life is just plain obnoxious. Billions of people in this world get by just fine with their OWN religion, or even with no religion at all, and do not need to convert to yours in order to find happiness. And this is a complete red-herring anyway. It doesn't disprove anything on my website; it is just a shameless attempt on your part to divert this discussion from your feeble arguments to my religion or lack thereof.

[Darth Wong]

He sent yet another mail quickly, totally ignoring the points I'd made in the previous message:

Name: Roy J Lores
E-Mail: RJLCyberPunk@HotMail.com
Comments: God bless...

"Who watched Star Trek: Generations? For those of you who did, you are probably familiar with the scene at the end, in which Picard watches a star darken from the cessation of its nuclear fusion reactions, and then explode in a supernova. How unrealistic is this event? Where can I begin? Picard sees the missile streak toward the star and impact, within a few seconds. Regardless of whether the missile was superluminal or not, the image of the missile, and its moment of impact, would propagate to Picard at light speed. Therefore, he must have been standing on a planet which was only ten light-seconds away from its star! Our own planet is more than eight light-minutes away from its star, and the "Generations" star could not have been an extremely dim star, because its colour spectrum was similar to our own sun. A planet this close to our own sun would not be anywhere close to habitable. The star darkens and collapses within seconds of the missile's impact, which supposedly halts all nuclear fusion reactions within the star. However, energy released by nuclear fusion reactions does not propagate all the way to the surface instantaneously, or even at the speed of light. In fact, the energy that you see coming from our sun today was generated by nuclear fusion reactions that occurred in its core eons before you were ever born. Not only does the energy released from a star's surface come from ancient nuclear fusion reactions, but the process of gravitational collapse itself should take millions of years to occur. In fact, before physicists hit upon nuclear fusion as the mechanism through which stars generate power, it was thought that a star might simply be converting gravitational potential energy to light! The only problem with this theory was that a star would only be able to do this for twenty or thirty million years. Too short to explain the luminosity of a star, but a lot longer than the 10 seconds witnessed by the intrepid Captain Picard."

Hmm.... It's funny I've read a few StarWars novels and comic books in which the empire deploys a missile that causes a star to go nova as well and just as fast, but of course since its from the StarWars universe it stems as valid because being GodLike with their omnipotent turbolaser they can.

Oh by the way in StarGate SG-1 in an episode dealing with Apophis fleet surrounding the Tokra secret base world, they used the planets gate and dial it to a word being swallowed by a blackhole and launch into the system's sun turning it also into a nova, I'd love to see your inminent bashing of this episode as well.

In your book its so called pseudoscience as long as its depicted in other scifi stories, movies or shows other than Star Wars. When it comes to Star Wars everyhing is a stated omnipotent fact.

But then what can one expect from an ultra super fascist webpage like this

As I stated before I hope that one day you will see the light of day and be able to let go of all that anger and hatred in your heart.

May the Lord keep you, may he lift his divine countenance upon you and give you peace...

He's starting to get downright obnoxious, don't you think? I responded thusly:

Name: Roy J Lores
E-Mail: RJLCyberPunk@HotMail.com
Comments: God bless...

"Who watched Star Trek: Generations? For those of you who did, you are probably familiar with the scene at the end, in which Picard watches a star darken from the cessation of its nuclear fusion reactions, and then explode in a supernova. How unrealistic is this event? Where can I begin? Picard sees the missile streak toward the star and impact, within a few seconds. Regardless of whether the missile was superluminal or not, the image of the missile, and its moment of impact, would propagate to Picard at light speed. Therefore, he must have been standing on a planet which was only ten light-seconds away from its star! Our own planet is more than eight light-minutes away from its star, and the "Generations" star could not have been an extremely dim star, because its colour spectrum was similar to our own sun. A planet this close to our own sun would not be anywhere close to habitable. The star darkens and collapses within seconds of the missile's impact, which supposedly halts all nuclear fusion reactions within the star. However, energy released by nuclear fusion reactions does not propagate all the way to the surface instantaneously, or even at the speed of light. In fact, the energy that you see coming from our sun today was generated by nuclear fusion reactions that occurred in its core eons before you were ever born. Not only does the energy released from a star's surface come from ancient nuclear fusion reactions, but the process of gravitational collapse itself should take millions of years to occur. In fact, before physicists hit upon nuclear fusion as the mechanism through which stars generate power, it was thought that a star might simply be converting gravitational potential energy to light! The only problem with this theory was that a star would only be able to do this for twenty or thirty million years. Too short to explain the luminosity of a star, but a lot longer than the 10 seconds witnessed by the intrepid Captain Picard."

Hmm.... It's funny I've read a few StarWars novels and comic books in which the empire deploys a missile that causes a star to go nova as well and just as fast, but of course since its from the StarWars universe it stems as valid because being GodLike with their omnipotent turbolaser they can.

Bullshit. When Carida was destroyed via supernova, they had hours to evacuate. Yet again, you make vague accusation of bias. Yet again, you fail to refute a single element of my webpage.

Oh by the way in StarGate SG-1 in an episode dealing with Apophis fleet surrounding the Tokra secret base world, they used the planets gate and dial it to a word being swallowed by a blackhole and launch into the system's sun turning it also into a nova, I'd love to see your inminent bashing of this episode as well.

See above. And see previous message, which you apparently ignored.

In your book its so called pseudoscience as long as its depicted in other scifi stories, movies or shows other than Star Wars. When it comes to Star Wars everyhing is a stated omnipotent fact.

See above. And see previous message, which you apparently ignored.

But then what can one expect from an ultra super fascist webpage like this

See above. And see previous message, which you apparently ignored.

As I stated before I hope that one day you will see the light of day and be able to let go of all that anger and hatred in your heart.

See above. And see previous message, which you apparently ignored.

May the Lord keep you, may he lift his divine countenance upon you and give you peace...

See above. And see previous message, which you apparently ignored.

[Gandalf]

There's a "No Enterprise Allowed" pic?

Otherwise, this guy is pretty funny. Not Stewie funny, but still good.

[Howedar]

When he said the "see the light" bit I fucking knew religion was about to come in. Just did. I don't know how.

[Darth Wong]

There's a "No Enterprise Allowed" pic?

Otherwise, this guy is pretty funny. Not Stewie funny, but still good.

It's a bit frustrating though, because even after repeated challenges he doesn't even try to make something that vaguely resembles an argument. It would be nice to see him try, so he could make a fool of himself and I could pick apart his claim. As it is, he is making no real claims at all, other than "you r biased, you arguments all wrong!!!!!"

[Sarevok]

Comments: This has to be the more Bias webpage in existence in the universe. Its very sad considering how much I love Star Wars and Star Trek, not to mention StarGate SG-1, Farscape etc.

This is a versus website so what do you expect ?

Its terrible that instead of no nonsense crossover stories, what is dished out is pure AntiStar Trek bashing.

This site uses science and logic to come its conclusion that the Empire could defeat the Federation. That is certainly better than unrealistic crossover stories like the Portal.

Not taking into consideration even the vaporizing power of phasers for example when impacts solid objects, the fact that they can extremely acurate hit moving objects in space etc.

Phasers do miss. There is a video clip of that made by Poe.

And also they picture photon and quantum torpedoes as no more than firecrackers when the yield is of multiple megatons

But their still useless against Imperial shields which are in the teraton range. And besides photon and quantum torpedoes are more likely to be kiloton range.

And there's nothing to suggest that the people in the Star Wars universe would have such an aversion to technology such as teleportation

Transporters work by cloning the person being transported at the destination and killing the original host. It is like a photo copier. No one in their right mind would use a transporter.

Replicators

The Empire already has duplicators which work similarly

Too bad, too bad for all of us true Science fiction fans that would love great no nonsense crossover stories, but at the present time thats obviously nothing more than wishfull thinking

Conquest is a great crossover story. What makes it great is it uses science and logic.

[Sarevok]

You mention quite a few episodes for proof and yet I saw plenty of episodes in which a single photon or quantum torpedo obliterates and or nearly destroys a large ship.

Still they are not powerful enough to hurt Imperial ships with teraton level shielding.

You also make a comparison regarding an old STTNG episode in that they claim that it would take a whole arsenal of such weapons to destroy a very large asteroid and not taking into account what it composition was

Asteroid compositions are a well known fact.

What you failed to take into account is that at that time, our scientific knowledge of asteroids was extremely limited other than the rock or iron meteors that had fallen a long time on earth we didnt have any more data, until we sent probes to a near asteroid and realize how complex this celestial bodies really are.

We have excellent knowledge on asterioids and we have send probes to them like Deep Space 1 and NEAR.

But at any rate, if the yield of either a photon or quantum torpedo is that of a firecracker then how it can obliterate or nearly destroy a ship in one good hit.

When did Wong say they are equal to firecrackers ? Photon torpedoes are kiloton weapons which is same as a nuclear weapon.

[The Kernel]

A Trekkie who also happens to be a fundie. Wow, how original.

[KhyronTheBackstabber]

I got a question. What the Fuck is a "mainstream Warsie"?

[NecronLord]

Ugh. What the fuck is he on about SG1 for. We have the OSF forum for such things.

[The Nomad]

I love those threads . A meeting between Darth Wong's Holy Wrath (tm), a thick rod of logic and a Trekkie's argumentative anus . Delightful .

I wonder how one can be both a fundie and a fan of a series that explicitely stated anti-religious and "pro-science" ( aka evolutionist... ) stances in several of its incarnations. Not to mention that it portrays "heathen", "pagan" beliefs in supernatural entities other than the Biblical God ( namely the Bajoran religion, which this guy should regard as idolatry and/or witchcraft... ).

[DaveJB]

IMO, you let him off way too lightly when he called the site "ultra super fascist". I don't see how a disagreement over Star Trek warrants him comparing your site to Hitler, Mussolini and their associated crimes.

[Darth Wong]

He is being quite persistent in his stupidity:

Name: Roy J Lores
E-Mail: RJLCyberPunk@HotMail.com
Comments: God Bless...

"You mean the part where you said "And also they picture photon and
quantum torpedoes as no more than firecrackers when the yield is of
multiple megatons." even though I hardly diminish them to firecrackers,
you fail to present a single piece of evidence for your claim, and there
are no numbers in this argument? How does that disprove my
characterization of your arguments as nothing but a simple-minded
accusation of bias?"

 With all due respect Mr Wong Im begining to see why you have most of the mainstream Scifi comunity steamed, once again you conveniently ignore the refrence to the episode in DS9 in which you clearly see photon & quantum torpedos blasting through klingon warships as if they were butter, pretty impressive for such extremely deficient low yield weapons, as for the "Firecracker" term thats relatively speaking how your website ranks them, compared to anything in the Star Wars universe. when you pit ships of either universe you dont take into account the maneuverabily of any ship in the Star Trek universe whatsoever, its cloaking capacity. You never take into account replicator technology etc.

 And if you are just saying that all Star Trek technology is scientifically Trekkie idiocy vs the super truthfull omnitotent so called science behing Star Wars even though it has just as much inconsistencies particularly regarding how fast HiperSpace really is.

I know that you will never answer this questions and will probably just reply with another set of "bashing the insect that dares to think different than me"

I wonder why you dislike exploration so much, you probably would like nothing more than to blast the discovery channel, national geographic and so on out of the surface of this planet if you could.

Your pro empire views are disturbing too... I wonder if you would have preferred for the axis powers in WWII to win so could live under their boot or for the current Islamic terrorist ascist to win so you could live under theirs. Do you honestly hate freedom and democracy that much?

Just curious...

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I replied thusly:

Name: Roy J Lores
E-Mail: RJLCyberPunk@HotMail.com
Comments: God Bless...

You mean the part where you said "And also they picture photon and quantum torpedoes as no more than firecrackers when the yield is of multiple megatons." even though I hardly diminish them to firecrackers, you fail to present a single piece of evidence for your claim, and there are no numbers in this argument? How does that disprove my characterization of your arguments as nothing but a simple-minded accusation of bias?"

With all due respect Mr Wong Im begining to see why you have most of the mainstream Scifi comunity steamed, once again you conveniently ignore the refrence to the episode in DS9 in which you clearly see photon & quantum torpedos blasting through klingon warships as if they were butter, pretty impressive for such extremely deficient low yield weapons, as for the "Firecracker" term thats relatively speaking how your website ranks them, compared to anything in the Star Wars universe.

Compared to Star Wars heavy starship weapons, a megaton IS a firecracker,
moron.

when you pit ships of either universe you dont take into account the maneuverabily of any ship in the Star Trek universe whatsoever, its cloaking capacity. You never take into account replicator technology etc.

Wrong again. Replicators and cloaking technology and maneuverability are all discussed. None of them would allow the Federation to win or even survive a war.

And if you are just saying that all Star Trek technology is scientifically Trekkie idiocy vs the super truthfull omnitotent so called science behing Star Wars even though it has just as much inconsistencies particularly regarding how fast HiperSpace really is.

Black/white fallacy. Neither Star Wars or Star Trek is scientifically realistic. However, Star Trek is LESS realistic.

I know that you will never answer this questions and will probably just reply with another set of "bashing the insect that dares to think different than me"

I know that you don't have the brains to answer any of my points directly, which is why you NEVER answer my messages with a point-by-point rebuttal.

I wonder why you dislike exploration so much, you probably would like nothing more than to blast the discovery channel, national geographic and so on out of the surface of this planet if you could.

Yes yes, again you rant about how I'm evil because I dislike Star Trek. Grow up.

Your pro empire views are disturbing too... I wonder if you would have preferred for the axis powers in WWII to win so could live under their boot or for the current Islamic terrorist ascist to win so you could live under theirs. Do you honestly hate freedom and democracy that much?

Just curious...

It's called humour, you idiot. Get some. Most people recognize that the frontpage of my site is obviously intended to be humourous, because it lampoons real Army recruiting pages. Do you really think that shamelessly wrapping yourself in the flag will make your arguments carry their weight?

What you're doing is known as the "ad-hominem attack". You constantly attack the personality and motives of your opponent, accusing him of fascism, hatred of democracy and freedom, evil dreams of murder and destruction, etc. in order to knock down his arguments in your mind, because by shooting the messenger, you believe you have shot down the argument. No doubt you think this is a genius technique, but it is not. It only makes YOU look ridiculous.

[Gandalf]

Holy Zeus, he brought patriotism into it.

[Ghost Rider]

This one isn't as funny as some of the other who try to demonstrate vast physics knowledge but instead go for the tactic of "You're worng because i say so!!!!"

Though the Pro Empire=Nazi= you ev3l!!! is pretty funny in how pathetic one can be to try to show up the other man.

[The Kernel]

With all due respect Mr Wong Im begining to see why you have most of the mainstream Scifi comunity steamed, once again you conveniently ignore the refrence to the episode in DS9 in which you clearly see photon & quantum torpedos blasting through klingon warships as if they were butter, pretty impressive for such extremely deficient low yield weapons, as for the "Firecracker" term thats relatively speaking how your website ranks them, compared to anything in the Star Wars universe.

And he thinks this makes ST torpedeos strong? Aparently our Mr. Lores has never seen the DS9 epsiode "In the Pale Moonlight"...



If this is what it takes to shred a Klingon cruisers hull, then photon torpedeos are not only underpowered compared to SW weapons, but even compared to modern nuclear bombs.

[Gandalf]

Kernel, I don't think that clip's from ITPM, more likely Tears of The Prophets.

(ITPM was the one where Sisko made the fake recording to trick the Romulans into the war.)

[The Kernel]

Kernel, I don't think that clip's from ITPM, more likely Tears of The Prophets.

(ITPM was the one where Sisko made the fake recording to trick the Romulans into the war.)

Right, I get the names of the two confused sometimes. You're right, that picture is from Tears of the Prophets, more specifically from the battle of Chin'Toka

[neoolong]

Holy Zeus, he brought patriotism into it.

I'm waiting for when he calls Mike unamerican.

[DaveJB]

I wonder why you dislike exploration so much, you probably would like nothing more than to blast the discovery channel, national geographic and so on out of the surface of this planet if you could.

Where the HELL did he get that from? Just because Mike dislikes SOME of Star Trek means that he's opposed to every single principle it holds? Or is he assuming that Imperialism and Exploration are mutually exclusive? Has he never heard of the British or Dutch Empires? Oh, of course! Neither of them's American, therefore they're evil beyond all redemption!

[Grand Admiral Thrawn]

I really enjoyed his attempts of comparing criticism of a Television show to Nazism right after D-Day. He probably thought that was quite clever.

[Vice Admiral]

Ultra-Warsies

May I ask what the definition of this is?

and a question for Darth Wong, do you tend to get more hate mail than any other kinds of email about you or your site?

[PeZook]

Your pro empire views are disturbing too... I wonder if you would have preferred for the axis powers in WWII to win so could live under their boot or for the current Islamic terrorist ascist to win so you could live under theirs. Do you honestly hate freedom and democracy that much?

Just curious...

Jesus

He's got some serious issues.

[Solauren]

He's not a debator, he's a flamer, nothing more.

Yeah know, I look forward to the day someone wiht actual qualifications to debate mike shows up and puts up a formidable fight.

It might only last 2 or 3 rounds, but stilll..

until then, we watch them all get it from, as he called himself 'the Anal Violator"