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Then the VRWC must see the trailer for Fahrenheit 9/11 it is sure to raise the blood pressure! :D

Okay, who is hanging out for this movie like nothing else?

Also, I just thought I should tell you all that Super Size Me has broken all box office records for an opening weekend for a documenatry in Australia ... McDonalds responds by priniting 'nutritional material' on their products! :lol:
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McDonalds was already doing that though, wasn't it?

(haven't been in one for a while)
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Not directly on the product I don't think. I know they were posted on the wall.
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"I call upon all people to stop these terrorist killers. Now watch this drive."

Hahahahaha!
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HemlockGrey wrote:"I call upon all people to stop these terrorist killers. Now watch this drive."

Hahahahaha!
Yeah I liked that one, I also loved it when he harrasses Congressmen to sign up their children for service in Iraq -- yes it is infatile, but it does prove a strong point; it isn't their kids out there on the line.
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I can't wait for all the "debunk Moore!" websites that will sprout up with worthwhile nuggets like:

"see, Moore used the wrong pronounciation for this word as he was reading the Patriot Act outside Congress! Clearly, his entire documentary is lies, told by a filthy fat LIEBERAL!"
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This might turn into the only problem with the film for real contex issues..
Rep. Kennedy pans Michael Moore film editing
Kevin Diaz, Bureau Correspondent
June 4, 2004 KENN0604
WASHINGTON, D.C. -- Rep. Mark Kennedy has unhappy memories of his filmed encounter with leftist moviemaker Michael Moore, an encounter featured Thursday in a trailer for the upcoming U.S. release of the film "Fahrenheit 9/11."

"I was walking back to my office after casting a vote, and all of a sudden some oversized guy puts a mike in my face and a camera in my face," said the Minnesota Republican. "He starts asking if I can help him recruit more people from families of members of Congress to participate in the war on terror."

Kennedy said he told Moore that he has two nephews in the military, one who has just been deployed in the Army National Guard.

But to Kennedy's annoyance, his response to Moore was cut from the trailer (and from the film, according to a spokeswoman for the movie).

"The interesting thing is that they used my image, but not my words," Kennedy said. "It's representative of the fact that Michael Moore doesn't always give the whole story, and he's a master of the misleading
http://www.startribune.com/stories/587/4810977.html
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theski wrote:This might turn into the only problem with the film for real contex issues..
Rep. Kennedy pans Michael Moore film editing
Kevin Diaz, Bureau Correspondent
June 4, 2004 KENN0604
WASHINGTON, D.C. -- Rep. Mark Kennedy has unhappy memories of his filmed encounter with leftist moviemaker Michael Moore, an encounter featured Thursday in a trailer for the upcoming U.S. release of the film "Fahrenheit 9/11."

"I was walking back to my office after casting a vote, and all of a sudden some oversized guy puts a mike in my face and a camera in my face," said the Minnesota Republican. "He starts asking if I can help him recruit more people from families of members of Congress to participate in the war on terror."

Kennedy said he told Moore that he has two nephews in the military, one who has just been deployed in the Army National Guard.

But to Kennedy's annoyance, his response to Moore was cut from the trailer (and from the film, according to a spokeswoman for the movie).

"The interesting thing is that they used my image, but not my words," Kennedy said. "It's representative of the fact that Michael Moore doesn't always give the whole story, and he's a master of the misleading
http://www.startribune.com/stories/587/4810977.html
Nah, I'm sure there's plenty of errors and fabrications in the movie if his past body of work is anything to go by.

Just wait until the guys at Spinsanity run it through the wash. :P
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Glocksman wrote:Just wait until the guys at Spinsanity run it through the wash. :P
Yep. Besides if Moore came up to me, I'd probably cram his mike down
his throat and/or grab his camera and use it to beat him sadistically
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Vympel wrote:McDonalds was already doing that though, wasn't it?

(haven't been in one for a while)
I was in a McDonalds last week, there's no info on their products. Thats in Canada though. You can ask for a pamplet with the info from the cashier though.
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theski wrote:This might turn into the only problem with the film for real contex issues..
Rep. Kennedy pans Michael Moore film editing
Kevin Diaz, Bureau Correspondent
June 4, 2004 KENN0604
WASHINGTON, D.C. -- Rep. Mark Kennedy has unhappy memories of his filmed encounter with leftist moviemaker Michael Moore, an encounter featured Thursday in a trailer for the upcoming U.S. release of the film "Fahrenheit 9/11."

"I was walking back to my office after casting a vote, and all of a sudden some oversized guy puts a mike in my face and a camera in my face," said the Minnesota Republican. "He starts asking if I can help him recruit more people from families of members of Congress to participate in the war on terror."

Kennedy said he told Moore that he has two nephews in the military, one who has just been deployed in the Army National Guard.

But to Kennedy's annoyance, his response to Moore was cut from the trailer (and from the film, according to a spokeswoman for the movie).

"The interesting thing is that they used my image, but not my words," Kennedy said. "It's representative of the fact that Michael Moore doesn't always give the whole story, and he's a master of the misleading
http://www.startribune.com/stories/587/4810977.html
:shock: WHAT MM edited the truth out of his Ducu-Fiction movie how shocking :roll:
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were any cute furry bunny rabbits killed while making this movie?
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I don't understand why someone would hate Michael Moore. He's just reporting the facts. Hating Michael Moore is like hating the messanger for the message delivered.
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BoredShirtless wrote:I don't understand why someone would hate Michael Moore. He's just reporting the facts. Hating Michael Moore is like hating the messanger for the message delivered.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

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Col. Crackpot wrote:
BoredShirtless wrote:I don't understand why someone would hate Michael Moore. He's just reporting the facts. Hating Michael Moore is like hating the messanger for the message delivered.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

*wipes away tears

so about that bridge I have for sale in Brooklyn. $25 and its yours. Deal?
Has he lied? If he has then I don't know about it and I retract my statement. But if he hasn't....
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BoredShirtless wrote:
Col. Crackpot wrote:
BoredShirtless wrote:I don't understand why someone would hate Michael Moore. He's just reporting the facts. Hating Michael Moore is like hating the messanger for the message delivered.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

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so about that bridge I have for sale in Brooklyn. $25 and its yours. Deal?
Has he lied? If he has then I don't know about it and I retract my statement. But if he hasn't....
Michael Moore hasn't overtly lied in the sense of saying something like "The sky is fucking yellow!" What he does is selectively tell truths in such a manner as to delibrately mislead or, support a pre-existing conclusion regadless of contradicting information.
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Col. Crackpot wrote:
BoredShirtless wrote:Has he lied? If he has then I don't know about it and I retract my statement. But if he hasn't....
Michael Moore hasn't overtly lied in the sense of saying something like "The sky is fucking yellow!" What he does is selectively tell truths in such a manner as to delibrately mislead or, support a pre-existing conclusion regadless of contradicting information.
Really? Please prove your assertion.
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We've been over this before.
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Durandal wrote:We've been over this before.
So what came out of that thread? Is Michael Moore full of shit, or is he ok?
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BoredShirtless wrote:
Durandal wrote:We've been over this before.
So what came out of that thread? Is Michael Moore full of shit, or is he ok?
He is a brilliant propagandist and about as trustworthy as Donald Rumsfeld.
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Col. Crackpot wrote:
BoredShirtless wrote:
Durandal wrote:We've been over this before.
So what came out of that thread? Is Michael Moore full of shit, or is he ok?
He is a brilliant propagandist and about as trustworthy as Donald Rumsfeld.
Bullshit, I don't believe you.
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BoredShirtless wrote:
Col. Crackpot wrote:
BoredShirtless wrote: So what came out of that thread? Is Michael Moore full of shit, or is he ok?
He is a brilliant propagandist and about as trustworthy as Donald Rumsfeld.
Bullshit, I don't believe you.
Well, we don't believe him either.
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BoredShirtless wrote:
Durandal wrote:We've been over this before.
So what came out of that thread? Is Michael Moore full of shit, or is he ok?
After reading it, my opinion was that none of the people criticizing the film could find any kind of solid evidence of major fabrications on Moore's part. They mostly complained about how, if you interpreted the composition and presentation a certain way, it could possibly be considered lying. None of the criticisms affect the main point of the film, which is that America's crime rates aren't necessarily caused by gun ownership, since other countries have similar gun ownership rates but drastically lower crime rates. Moore basically postulates that America's uniquely high violent crime rates are the result of a culture of fear propagated by the media.
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BoredShirtless wrote:
Col. Crackpot wrote:
BoredShirtless wrote: So what came out of that thread? Is Michael Moore full of shit, or is he ok?
He is a brilliant propagandist and about as trustworthy as Donald Rumsfeld.
Bullshit, I don't believe you.
ehhh, what else is new. now if you did, that would be newsworthy. worthy even of attention from obese angry documentary filmakers perhaps.
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Well he did quote Bill O'Reilly completely out of context, for the express purpose of trying to make him look like a lunatic, in his playboy interview.
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