Removing Someone From Hate Mail
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Removing Someone From Hate Mail
I received this e-mail request today:
From: "Ryan Birkel" <rbirkel02@yahoo.com>
To: <louis@h4h.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2004 10:51 PM
Subject: Re: Hate Mail
> Wow, I sent you some hate mail a few years ago, and I
> have to apologize. A few days ago I decided to type my
> name in google and see what it came up with. I saw my
> e-mail I sent you on your STvsSW website. I really
> feel like an idiot for sending that. I was a dumb
> young teenager and I had no business sending it. I
> know you don't owe me anything, but could you delete
> it? I'd like to think I've smartened up a little bit,
> hopefully I can put that stuff behind me. I wouldn't
> blame you if you keep it up there, but thanks regardless.
You can find Ryan's original opinion of my website on my Hate Mail page.
So, should I be a big man, compassionate upstanding web citizen, and grant this request?
Or, should I remain.....Wayne Poe?
From: "Ryan Birkel" <rbirkel02@yahoo.com>
To: <louis@h4h.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2004 10:51 PM
Subject: Re: Hate Mail
> Wow, I sent you some hate mail a few years ago, and I
> have to apologize. A few days ago I decided to type my
> name in google and see what it came up with. I saw my
> e-mail I sent you on your STvsSW website. I really
> feel like an idiot for sending that. I was a dumb
> young teenager and I had no business sending it. I
> know you don't owe me anything, but could you delete
> it? I'd like to think I've smartened up a little bit,
> hopefully I can put that stuff behind me. I wouldn't
> blame you if you keep it up there, but thanks regardless.
You can find Ryan's original opinion of my website on my Hate Mail page.
So, should I be a big man, compassionate upstanding web citizen, and grant this request?
Or, should I remain.....Wayne Poe?
Re: Removing Someone From Hate Mail
Lord Poe wrote:I received this e-mail request today:
From: "Ryan Birkel" <rbirkel02@yahoo.com>
To: <louis@h4h.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2004 10:51 PM
Subject: Re: Hate Mail
> Wow, I sent you some hate mail a few years ago, and I
> have to apologize. A few days ago I decided to type my
> name in google and see what it came up with. I saw my
> e-mail I sent you on your STvsSW website. I really
> feel like an idiot for sending that. I was a dumb
> young teenager and I had no business sending it. I
> know you don't owe me anything, but could you delete
> it? I'd like to think I've smartened up a little bit,
> hopefully I can put that stuff behind me. I wouldn't
> blame you if you keep it up there, but thanks regardless.
You can find Ryan's original opinion of my website on my Hate Mail page.
So, should I be a big man, compassionate upstanding web citizen, and grant this request?
Or, should I remain.....Wayne Poe?
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I've "anonymized" a user before at his request. I think I might have another request somewhere in my inbox for a similar anonymization, but I haven't gotten to it yet.
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"you guys are fascinated with the use of those "rules of logic" to the extent that you don't really want to discussus anything."- GC
"I do not believe Russian Roulette is a stupid act" - Embracer of Darkness
"Viagra commercials appear to save lives" - tharkûn on US health care.
http://www.stardestroyer.net/Mike/RantMode/Blurbs.html
I think Mike's anonymity idea is a good one. It preserves the arguement (just so you can still say, I've already dealt with this), but protects ther person. Or you could post they guy's email and say, quite clearly that he regrets his actions back then.
Or you could do both.
Or you could do both.
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I'd kill it completely. I very much doubt he and I are the only people on this planet who did stupid things that they regret. There is a time to say "Hey, you said it, that's life, live with it", but I don't think this is one of those times.
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I find myself forced to agree to anonymizing the exchange, if you truly believe the person is sincere.
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rbirkel02@yahoo.com...
I've heard that email before. I don't know who has it, but it sounds so familiar... I think I'm gonna burn out my brains trying to remember :s
I've heard that email before. I don't know who has it, but it sounds so familiar... I think I'm gonna burn out my brains trying to remember :s
Meh, remove it. if the exchange really was years ago, and he asks, you might as well. honestly, what purpose does it serve to leave it there? We may get a chuckle, but everyone who matters has already read through it. People do change. I, myself was once a silly, headstrong idiot. I'm no longer headstrong.
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I'd remove it if he requests you to. He's been polite about it .. it's the honourable thing to do.
Dann damm Wayne, wasn't happened to you?! :p
Dann damm Wayne, wasn't happened to you?! :p
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I think doing as he requested is the best option. We've all said stupid things in the past. Even myself, stunning example of human perfection I may be.
So, does that leave you as just a silly idiot?Chardok wrote:I, myself was once a silly, headstrong idiot. I'm no longer headstrong.
どうして?お前が夜に自身お触れるから。
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but a foolish samurai warrior wielding a magic sword stepped forth to oppose me. Before the final blow
was struck, I tore open a portal in time and flung him into the future, where my evil is law! Now, the fool
seeks to return to the past, and undo the future that is Aku...
-Aku, Master of Masters, Deliverer of Darkness, Shogun of Sorrow
Long ago in a distant land, I, Aku, the shape-shifting Master of Darkness, unleashed an unspeakable evil,
but a foolish samurai warrior wielding a magic sword stepped forth to oppose me. Before the final blow
was struck, I tore open a portal in time and flung him into the future, where my evil is law! Now, the fool
seeks to return to the past, and undo the future that is Aku...
-Aku, Master of Masters, Deliverer of Darkness, Shogun of Sorrow
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I also cast my vote for the anonymity option.
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If your going to use anonymity- make sure you include the email to explain why.
Devolution is quite as natural as evolution, and may be just as pleasing, or even a good deal more pleasing, to God. If the average man is made in God's image, then a man such as Beethoven or Aristotle is plainly superior to God, and so God may be jealous of him, and eager to see his superiority perish with his bodily frame.
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I WAS RIGHT!
rbirkel02@hotmail.com was in my contacts list.
But I have no clue who it is!
This is getting strange.
rbirkel02@hotmail.com was in my contacts list.
But I have no clue who it is!
This is getting strange.
Maybe he was just another lost soul who has finally found the right path.Praxis wrote:Wow. I figured out who it is.
Surprising
He was a nice guy, at least to me, when we were in a Star Wars RPG together a while back on another board. Didn't seem to have any anti star wars bias.
I'd say give him the anonymity.
Well, apparently he wishes he'd never wrote it, he's not anti-warsie and has no clue why he wrote it...he does remember writing it a long time ago though.
I'd take his email/name out of it. He doesn't seem like a 'rabid trekkie'.
I'd take his email/name out of it. He doesn't seem like a 'rabid trekkie'.
(TCW3 is a Star Wars RPG)Eagle One says:
no, I like star wars, tcw3, swg all that stuff. I guess I just felt like being stupid a few years ago
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I say go for anonymity. It lets him not look like an ass and it keeps the argument on record.
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That we dying younger hiding from the police man over there
Just for breathing in the air they wanna leave me in the chair
Electric shocking body rocking beat streeting me to death"
- A.B. Original, Report to the Mist
"I think it’s the duty of the comedian to find out where the line is drawn and cross it deliberately."
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