STGOD 4 OOC Thread

InnocentBystander · Post by **InnocentBystander** » 2004-06-14 05:12pm

A new OOB? Urk, okay, I guess it's time to go over and clean up my oob.

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2004-06-14 05:14pm

InnocentBystander wrote:A new OOB? Urk, okay, I guess it's time to go over and clean up my oob.

Yeah, mostly to clear out the people that dropped, the nations that vanishes, and the advice. After all, the OOB thread is meant to be a reference, not another OOC thread.

SirNitram · Post by **SirNitram** » 2004-06-14 05:31pm

My new nation, the Etern, are posted. Comments welcome before I make my foray into the game.

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2004-06-14 05:35pm

SirNitram wrote:My new nation, the Etern, are posted. Comments welcome before I make my foray into the game.

The entirely automated industry is a big potential game balance problem. Unless the set up and out put remains relatively consistent with the rest of Known Space's levels, I don't think it'll fly.

SirNitram · Post by **SirNitram** » 2004-06-14 05:40pm

Stormbringer wrote:
SirNitram wrote:My new nation, the Etern, are posted. Comments welcome before I make my foray into the game.
The entirely automated industry is a big potential game balance problem. Unless the set up and out put remains relatively consistent with the rest of Known Space's levels, I don't think it'll fly.

I'm going to keep it consistant, don't worry. It's more a society quirk, or was intended to be so. The entire class of people that would work them isn't there, hence a low population and clan/feudal society.

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2004-06-14 05:43pm

SirNitram wrote:
Stormbringer wrote:
SirNitram wrote:My new nation, the Etern, are posted. Comments welcome before I make my foray into the game.
The entirely automated industry is a big potential game balance problem. Unless the set up and out put remains relatively consistent with the rest of Known Space's levels, I don't think it'll fly.
I'm going to keep it consistant, don't worry. It's more a society quirk, or was intended to be so. The entire class of people that would work them isn't there, hence a low population and clan/feudal society.

Okay, that's no problem then.

The rest I'll have to wait to see a blurb or something on your ships before saying anything else.

Dahak · Post by **Dahak** » 2004-06-14 05:47pm

Hm, Nitram, your new nations has some nice society and tech overlap with mine

So I'm not the only cyber freak out there anymore

Rogue 9 · Post by **Rogue 9** » 2004-06-14 05:53pm

Right, mine's up. Fleet numbers aren't updated yet. I'll do that after going through and counting up my losses from previous battles and accounting for new construction. And what is this invasion guide of which you speak? My worlds have notes of what fleet elements are stationed at them in their descriptions, but are we supposed to post a more concise accounting somewhere?

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2004-06-14 06:05pm

My worlds have notes of what fleet elements are stationed at them in their descriptions, but are we supposed to post a more concise accounting somewhere?

No, that's just Thirdfain's love of worldbuilding I think. There's no detailed guide required though I'm actually working on a complete Navy List (names and designator numbers for all my ships) at the moment which includes indivdual fleet OOBs.

SirNitram · Post by **SirNitram** » 2004-06-14 06:06pm

Ship blurbs up. With the exception of the Dominus, there's no real hard variation from most.

Rogue 9 · Post by **Rogue 9** » 2004-06-14 06:09pm

SirNitram wrote:
Rogue 9 wrote:And if it makes you feel better, the Gladius and Dauntless are both going into drydock for a few months at least. A lot of the surviving ships aren't going to be in shape to run combat ops for a long time, but I'm not going to have a battleship self-destruct out of a sense of fairness if you don't take the kills you can get. War doesn't work like that.
Never asked for a battleship to explode. I just feel like driving home the foolishness of a carrier with bays large enough to drive destroyers into being present when someone's lobbing railguns.

You didn't check out the size difference between the Venture and Starlight classes, did you? The former is roughly 3500 meters. The latter is 500. And the carrier's a hell of a lot wider than the destroyer, too. In comparison to the Venture's total size, such a bay isn't that big, and only the forward bay can do that. The others are smaller.

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2004-06-14 06:26pm

You realize that relatively big or not that's still a big freaking soft spot on your ships. You can't avoid that.

Rogue 9 · Post by **Rogue 9** » 2004-06-14 07:14pm

*Shrug* I know. Its a price I'm willing to pay for hauling a shitload of assault fighters. But its a soft spot that doesn't face all directions all the time, and stupid commanders don't get to have the things. No sane captain would face his bow hangar bay towards the broadside of an enemy BB or DN.

Edit: If he could help it, anyway; its certainly possible to maneuver in front of a carrier or to surround one. But Nitram's ship wasn't doing that.

Bugsby · Post by **Bugsby** » 2004-06-14 07:19pm

Consequences, about your little expedition into former Machine territory....

First, good luck finding the developed worlds. I was the only one who took the initiative to scout out and then destroy the machines, and I'm not sharing.
Second, Overseer tends to build on lifeless rocks. You couldnt live there, and even if you could, the facilities there are made for machines, not men. You can't operate any of that shit. All that these worlds are now are big salvage yards.
Third, I have the rights to the salvage operation by right of conquest. If you try to take what I rightfully earned during my campaign, you will have problems. That is not a threat, that is the truth.

consequences · Post by **consequences** » 2004-06-14 07:38pm

Bugsby wrote:Consequences, about your little expedition into former Machine territory....

First, good luck finding the developed worlds. I was the only one who took the initiative to scout out and then destroy the machines, and I'm not sharing.
Second, Overseer tends to build on lifeless rocks. You couldnt live there, and even if you could, the facilities there are made for machines, not men. You can't operate any of that shit. All that these worlds are now are big salvage yards.
Third, I have the rights to the salvage operation by right of conquest. If you try to take what I rightfully earned during my campaign, you will have problems. That is not a threat, that is the truth.

The fact that your fleet turned around and went home means that you basically abandoned your conquests. Given that Nitram pulled playing dead shit on me in my one engagement with him, this strikes my forces as being highly irresponsible. At the very least, we are going to sit on the sites and make sure that nothing starts moving again, while taking the most detailed scans of everything we can manage.
Finding them shouldn't be to ridiculously hard, your main fleet rolling through has to leave a pretty hefty trail.

For my part, I thought I had been a bit more detailed in my efforts to find them, but the only posts I'm turning up indicate my searching of the area between former arcane space and me, and undetailed 'survey work' on the far side of my space. Blast and dagnabbit, real life and ferret-like distractability strike again.

I

Bugsby · Post by **Bugsby** » 2004-06-14 08:07pm

Just because I truned my warships around doesnt mean that I wont send anything in there to take care of salvage. Last time I checked, dreadnaughts were not needed to pick up dead metal and put it in a barge. And once I get word that you are poking around what is mind, you can bet some of those warships will turn around pretty quick.

-edit- And I did say I was leaving some ships around to make sure that nothing moved. Im not being irresponsible, you just werent reading close enough. Second to last paragraph of my "battle" post, I believe....

Rogue 9 · Post by **Rogue 9** » 2004-06-14 08:15pm

Either way, the really important stuff probably went up when you completely frickin' melted the Overseer's core...

Thirdfain · Post by **Thirdfain** » 2004-06-14 08:16pm

LAy off the man! he was working on contract, he didn't have time for niceties

Rogue 9 · Post by **Rogue 9** » 2004-06-14 08:28pm

Hey, did I blame him? I didn't hire him, its no skin off my nose.

Thirdfain · Post by **Thirdfain** » 2004-06-14 09:05pm

Must... resist.... urge... to,,, cure... boredom..... via .... writing fully, comprehensive listing of all Hajr warships, fleets, sub-clusters, and their COs....

Oops. Looks like I failed.

Post by **Alyrium Denryle** » 2004-06-14 09:06pm

Thirdfain wrote:Must... resist.... urge... to,,, cure... boredom..... via .... writing fully, comprehensive listing of all Hajr warships, fleets, sub-clusters, and their COs....

Oops. Looks like I failed.

I actually think I will do the same

Rogue 9 · Post by **Rogue 9** » 2004-06-14 09:47pm

Alyrium Denryle wrote:
Thirdfain wrote:Must... resist.... urge... to,,, cure... boredom..... via .... writing fully, comprehensive listing of all Hajr warships, fleets, sub-clusters, and their COs....

Oops. Looks like I failed.
I actually think I will do the same

I did that a few weeks ago. Its just on paper, and I haven't gotten around to typing it all yet.

Hotfoot · Post by **Hotfoot** » 2004-06-14 09:55pm

Oh, and for the record, I will be doing something similar shortly. My current OOB does not have Delta fleet in it yet either, but I am currently working to remedy that.

Edit: It has been fixed. Now I just need to do battlegroup divisions and such.

Evil Sadistic Bastard · Post by **Evil Sadistic Bastard** » 2004-06-14 11:19pm

I feel like doing an OOB just for the heck of it. What details will be required for this? Are there any pre-start relations I should consider? And is a race of spacefaring tentacle creatures viable?

Post by **Alyrium Denryle** » 2004-06-14 11:28pm

Evil Sadistic Bastard wrote:I feel like doing an OOB just for the heck of it. What details will be required for this? Are there any pre-start relations I should consider? And is a race of spacefaring tentacle creatures viable?

Your nation:

Race Biology of non-human

Culture:

Government:

Planetary holdings

Ship details:

Army details: