STGOD 4 OOC Thread

[Stormbringer]

I feel like doing an OOB just for the heck of it. What details will be required for this? Are there any pre-start relations I should consider? And is a race of spacefaring tentacle creatures viable?

And if you want to play, it's worth getting advice so post yours here first to get some advice if you want it.

[Stormbringer]

PS: If any one wants to see it I've got a fleet break down that covers all the various Fleets and Squadrons. It also has every ship above DD level named.

[Bugsby]

Pre-start relations? Oh, lord, where to begin? It might be a bit tough to get in at this point if you havent been keeping up all along because a lot has happened, and any small event missed in a general summary might become critically important later. But to recap, here is what has happened so far.

Laz was an idiot and got himself killed off in the first ten pages of the STGOD. Laz then restarted the game, pissed everyone off again, and was again eliminated in short order. In the meantime, a bunch of things happened. Tycho had to quickly abort a race of religous fanatics. A coalition (that later became permanent) of the Arcanists, Nashtar, the KSE, and the UP took over these worlds. Since then, the Ousters have been secretly funding a resistance movement on those worlds. Everyone knows about the resistance, no one knows about the Ouster hand in it. Also during this time, some alliances have formed. there is a three-way coalition of Veitha-Ravenlock-Gladsheim. The large alliance between the Arcanists, Nashtar, KSE, and UP gained an ally in the Atlantians (although Sharkbait hasnt been on in a few weeks). This alliance is also friendly with many neutral powers, although not directly allied with them. Monacora and the Asgard allied. The Ousters and the Vampires allied.

Around the time of Laz losing his second race, the Overseer entered known space with all his ships and destroyed Earth in what is now known as the Rape of Terra. Since then, most of the politics has been centered around this. Monacora led a large coalition to attack the Overseer, an effort in which nearly every nation helped out. Overwhelming evidence surfaced that the Arcanists were in collusion with the Overseer, and so they were destroyed by the Krell Combine, a mercenary fleet (ME!). Alyrium rejoined the game as a race of Lizards and promptly retook his place in the 4-way alliance. Shortly afterwards, Overseer space was discovered and although many nations sent ships, it was again the Krell who acted as the hammer. Just today the Overseer was destroyed and Nitram goes off to make another race. That's it in a nutshell. I forgot a lot and purposefully excluded a lot, but.... there ya go.

[Alyrium Denryle]

PS: If any one wants to see it I've got a fleet break down that covers all the various Fleets and Squadrons. It also has every ship above DD level named.

Please by all means, I want to see!!!

[Rogue 9]

Right. Y'know, I still have a carrier battle group at Earth waiting to be tasked to the joint operations against the Overseer that aren't going to happen now. Might as well bring 'em home soon. Not right this minute, though. *Eyes Tycho*

And I meant to say this before, but didn't get around to it. Stormbringer, love the sig.

[Thirdfain]

- Updated Fleet Composition post in OOB. It's almost done, only problem is the escort numbers are off. It's comprehensive as shit.

[Stormbringer]

PS: If any one wants to see it I've got a fleet break down that covers all the various Fleets and Squadrons. It also has every ship above DD level named.

Please by all means, I want to see!!!

Removed for now.

[Rogue 9]

I forgot a lot and purposefully excluded a lot

Which category does the fact that the evidence against the Arcanists was faked go into?

[Bugsby]

I forgot a lot and purposefully excluded a lot

Which category does the fact that the evidence against the Arcanists was faked go into?

"purposefully excluded." It was fake, but there was a lot of it. Now the Arcanists are dead, and their last man on this plane was assassinated. Details, details. Will probably have no effect on main thrust of the plot

[Rogue 9]

Oh, but you're wrong. You see, we now have Overseer computer cores. And if (note I said if, I'm not just going to say that the Programmers all had that information) it comes to light that one of the crowning glories you're advertising on was a massive jumping of the gun and the destruction of an innocent nation, your services aren't going to look all that attractive. *Envisions contract withdrawals citing "lack of discipline."*

[Thirdfain]

*envisions Nashtar programmers realizing that they have absolutly no way of using the MAchine compuer cores. Ever.*

[Rogue 9]

There's no such thing as an unbreakable system except for one that the owner himself cannot use, and the Machines were obviously using their computer cores. Besides, we've got several ships of the Overseer's, and with them we have the way they accessed their own computer cores. If there's a way to do something, that way can be found. How difficult it is depends on the thing in question, but it can be done.

[InnocentBystander]

There's no such thing as an unbreakable system except for one that the owner himself cannot use, and the Machines were obviously using their computer cores. Besides, we've got several ships of the Overseer's, and with them we have the way they accessed their own computer cores. If there's a way to do something, that way can be found. How difficult it is depends on the thing in question, but it can be done.

What right do you have to machine equipment? As I recall it was the Krell & the Unification that did all the work.

[Thirdfain]

I just find it hard to believe you'd find useful, credible evidence on a warship's computer core. After all, you could capture an Ouster Attack Carrier completely intact, interrogate all the crew and pump all the battle computers, and not learn one whit of the Ouster complicity in the Ix'agal revolts....

[Murazor]

Right now, who controls the CoG territory. The Hajr controls the Edean system, but what happens with the other parts?

[Thirdfain]

They've been divied up. There are 4 occupation zones:" the Krytos Occupation Zone, which is mostly border worlds and failry quiet, the Nashtar occupation Zone which includes Ix'agal, the capital, and is currently in full terrorist revolt, I believe there's a Protectorate occupation zone, and then there's the former Arcanist Occupation Zone, which became independent, and is now being run by Covenant Mujahdeen puppeted by Hajr agents (not that anyone knows that) and supplied with weapons bought from the Krell, Minmatar, and Chinese. This last region is locked in conflict with the Monacorans.

The Nashtar region is the largest, containing more core systems.

[InnocentBystander]

Almost everyone else has a little chunk of CoG which they are desparately trying to control. CoG territory is basically a black hole. Men, machines and money go in and they never come out. The CoGers are interested in total self rule and independancy, they don't want outsiders exploiting their resources and what-not. It will be years before any returns are seen from CoG territory, assuming war weariness doesn't set in


Edit:
Strombringer can you get that monster of a post out of here, put it in your OOB. It hurts my eyes!

[Rogue 9]

There's no such thing as an unbreakable system except for one that the owner himself cannot use, and the Machines were obviously using their computer cores. Besides, we've got several ships of the Overseer's, and with them we have the way they accessed their own computer cores. If there's a way to do something, that way can be found. How difficult it is depends on the thing in question, but it can be done.

What right do you have to machine equipment? As I recall it was the Krell & the Unification that did all the work.

The right of "I smashed Gamma-3927 by myself and salvaged what was there." No other powers participated in that attack. I took down a base just like the one that a five-nation coalition attacked earlier by myself, and you can be damned sure that I'm going to start salvaging stuff.

Edit: And how in the hell did you miss the massive battle Nitram and I were having, anyway? Kind of hard to do; it was one of the last fleet actions against the Overseer, happening simultaneously with the Krell attack on the Overseer homeworld. Apparently I drew off the Overseer's heavy ships with my attack, making the Krell's job a lot easier if I understand what happened correctly. I'd hardly say I didn't do any work.

[Alyrium Denryle]

I just find it hard to believe you'd find useful, credible evidence on a warship's computer core. After all, you could capture an Ouster Attack Carrier completely intact, interrogate all the crew and pump all the battle computers, and not learn one whit of the Ouster complicity in the Ix'agal revolts....

Yeah, but then again the Overseer is like one giant LAN they share a "hive mind" so to speak and it may be possilble to glean some info.

[Hotfoot]

Yeah, but then again the Overseer is like one giant LAN they share a "hive mind" so to speak and it may be possilble to glean some info.

As I understand it, master programmers might have communicated with the Overseer, but that's about it. There's no assurance that even a master programmer would have information concerning the framing of the Arcanists, much less a lowly warship.

Meanwhile, it doesn't change the fact that the Arcanists were still guilty of criminal negligence.

[Rogue 9]

Nobody said it change the criminal negligence part, but criminal negligence, unlike the active destruction of a nation's capital, does not rate planetary bombardment as a punishment. There's a crucial difference there.

[Hotfoot]

Nobody said it change the criminal negligence part, but criminal negligence, unlike the active destruction of a nation's capital, does not rate planetary bombardment as a punishment. There's a crucial difference there.

Funny, I must have missed the part where the Krell tried to actively glass the Arcanist Capital. Do I have to go through the whole point by point bit again using even smaller words to explain why the Arcanists screwed themselves over in that little engagement? The Krell were targeting military facilities after hostilities had already started, not wantonly obliterating the Arcanist homeworld.

You see, regardless of whether or not the Arcanists were actively helping the machines, it doesn't matter. The situation they created for themselves made the Krell actions, while perhaps a bit rash, ultimately justified. Even if you do find evidence of Arcanist innocence (which is a real long shot at this point), it doesn't change the fact that given the information at the time, the Krell were justified.

[SirNitram]

So, people are going to back engineer quantum computers, learn a completely new language that no one anywhere speaks, learn the programming language, THEN hack the Master Programmers who don't actually have any of that info? Two words; Yea, right.

[Rogue 9]

Hotfoot: Not the Krell. Tycho tried it, ignoring planetary shields in the process (something later rectified).

Nitram: Do we or do we not have universal translators? Besides, cracking a language meant for regular communication is no more difficult (and in most cases significantly less difficult) than cracking a cypher code meant to be confusing to anyone without the key. Also, note that I did say that I would let you say whether any particular piece of information was present at the facility. I never planned on just saying that I found stuff that wasn't there, unlike a good many other players I could point at.

[Hotfoot]

Hotfoot: Not the Krell. Tycho tried it, ignoring planetary shields in the process (something later rectified).

Yeah, but the Krell had nothing to do with that, so I fail to see what the point would be to ruin the Krell's reputation. The Jardanians were sufficiently punished for their actions by Straha.