Megatron vs. Spiderman

RayCav of ASVS · Post by **RayCav of ASVS** » 2002-10-26 12:34am

Ok, in reality, who wins?

Evil Sadistic Bastard · Post by **Evil Sadistic Bastard** » 2002-10-26 12:36am

Megatron.

Big-ass energy cannon vs. mutated DNA - Big-ass energy cannon wins.
Hands down.

neoolong · Post by **neoolong** » 2002-10-26 02:36am

But, he's in his alien costume. Though Megatron would turn him into a puddle of red and black goo.

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2002-10-26 02:39am

neoolong wrote:But, he's in his alien costume. Though Megatron would turn him into a puddle of red and black goo.

Vapour, more likely.

Evil Sadistic Bastard · Post by **Evil Sadistic Bastard** » 2002-10-26 06:55am

He's in his alien costume? Damn, didn't notice.

Oh well, he can be twice as fast, but he'll still be dead after eating a plasma blast.

RayCav of ASVS · Post by **RayCav of ASVS** » 2002-10-26 03:56pm

RayCav of ASVS wrote:

Ok, in reality, who wins?

Does anybody know how this comic ends, or how the hell Spidy ended up fighting Megatron in the first place?

Next of Kin · Post by **Next of Kin** » 2002-10-26 04:42pm

Wait, I have this comic book sitting around somewhere. Let me find it and I might be able to answer your questions, Ray!

Crazy_Vasey · Post by **Crazy_Vasey** » 2002-10-26 05:00pm

Megatron destroys half the planet trying to get him before promptly screwing up and losing. As always

VF5SS · Post by **VF5SS** » 2002-10-26 05:14pm

Well Megatron holds up in his new fortress and Peter is one of the reporters that comes along to cover the story. The Autobots set out to rescure Sparkplug who has been captured and forced to develope a new super fuel for the Decepticons. Gears and Spiderman sneak in to the fortress and there they meet up with bedpan head.

Next of Kin · Post by **Next of Kin** » 2002-10-26 06:06pm

VF5SS wrote:Well Megatron holds up in his new fortress and Peter is one of the reporters that comes along to cover the story. The Autobots set out to rescure Sparkplug who has been captured and forced to develope a new super fuel for the Decepticons. Gears and Spiderman sneak in to the fortress and there they meet up with bedpan head.

I snooze I lose! I'll add that Spiderman and Gears eventually rescue Sparkplug from Megs and save the day!

VF5SS · Post by **VF5SS** » 2002-10-26 07:53pm

Of course Gears fall to his death and his parts are gathered back together by a bunchof poorly drawn Autobots all of which are mis-colored. Once they put Gears back together they learn that Sparkplug had already completed the super fuel.

RayCav of ASVS · Post by **RayCav of ASVS** » 2002-10-27 12:03am

yes but how the hell did Spiderman and Transformers end up in the same place in the first place?

VF5SS · Post by **VF5SS** » 2002-10-27 12:05am

Well it was a way to grab other fans with a crossover. When Ratchet searches for the Dinobots in one of the later issues he does it in the "Lost World." Hell the editor even puts a little note to show that

Elizar · Post by **Elizar** » 2002-10-28 04:53am

Spidey takes it.

First of all, theres no way megatron could get out of that webbing, a pencial width line of the silk could stop a 747 in mid-flight... let alone several lines wrapped all over his body. Even the Hulk has trouble.

Spidey has been shot at with an AK-47 at close ranges, full on. Didn't get hit once... so I doubt Megatron is gonna get a hit. Especially with such experience with the likes of shocker, electro, GG, Scorpian etc..

Even if he does get hit, he has taken punches stronger than the hulks several dozen times and kept going.

And I doubt Megatron weighs more than maybe 5 tons (I doubt itd be more than that, or he'd probably expend more energy just standing than his weapon), making Megatron less than Spidey can benchpress. So spidey could literally crush him at will, perhaps flip onto megatrons head and rip it off.

That's all without him having the alien costume.

His Divine Shadow · Post by **His Divine Shadow** » 2002-10-28 05:47am

Since your post is just an opinion, a flat out contradicted opinion at that, it _will_ be ignored at all costs.

Destroy the organics!

Elizar · Post by **Elizar** » 2002-10-28 12:52pm

Flat out contradicted how?

The webbing strength is stated about the hulk in the ultimate guide of spidey (Tom defalco basically gets all comics ordered into an average canon look at spidey). And in real life, spider-silk would stop a 747.

Ak-47 was seen somewhat recently in a ASM issue.

Again, shown somewhat recently is spideys ability to take a punch. He was hit harder than the hulk by Morlun, many times and kept going.

Megatron is a guess seeing as how he kinda defies physics with his mass changing ability.

But I don't recall Megatron pratically sinking in the earth due to his weight.

Organics forever!

neoolong · Post by **neoolong** » 2002-10-28 02:19pm

Spiderman's webs are either spider silk or not. They are not organic in the comics and unless it says that they function just like spider silk you cannot draw strength comparisons based on spider silk.

It also doesn't matter what you say about Megatron not being able to break it. He does in the provided comic so that is more canon that your claims.

His Divine Shadow · Post by **His Divine Shadow** » 2002-10-29 02:05am

Elizar wrote:Organics forever!

Bah, I've seen inorganic nano-based projects that yield tensile strenghts nearly a magnitude stronger than spider silk.

Skelron · Post by **Skelron** » 2002-10-29 07:08am

Well first as too hoiw Megatron and spidey can be in the same comic... Originally Transformer's was produced by Marvel Comics, and while they had the licence where a part of the Marvelverse, now that Dreamwave have it... I'm unsure.

Elizar · Post by **Elizar** » 2002-10-29 09:34am

neoolong - Well, spider-man shooting out spider-silk seems an easy conclusion.

I know its not organic, but is still the same ability of spider-silk... could be argued moreso. As guys like the hulk have what seems to be infinite strength.

But you'll note the thread starter said "Ok, in reality, who wins?", so in reality Megatron would be lucky to be standing upright let alone break out of spider-silk.

HDS - I find that highly unlikely, best I've heard of is biosteel, a watered down version of spider-silk. There are I believe some highly secret projects to yield a device to simulate what a spider does. And a magnitude stronger? So a pencil width of this material you've seen could stop a thousand 747s in midflight at once? If this is all true, I can't wait for it to be made public. The military implications alone are astounding.

Skelron · Post by **Skelron** » 2002-10-29 11:17am

Spidy's Web Fluid from the Comics, is unusual I think that it states somewhere that he seemed to just know how to create it in it's basic form, as if while not getting the abilty to make it naturally, the spider did pass on an understanding of what is involved, whether this makes it Spider Silk or merely something close is open to interpretation whether it would bind megatron in either case isn't it won't. (don't forget that in what we saw it was Alien Suit Spidy and everything about that spidy is more powerful, including the Webbing...

Crazy_Vasey · Post by **Crazy_Vasey** » 2002-10-29 01:15pm

Elizar wrote:Spidey takes it.

First of all, theres no way megatron could get out of that webbing, a pencial width line of the silk could stop a 747 in mid-flight... let alone several lines wrapped all over his body. Even the Hulk has trouble.

Have you ever considered that Megatron is probably stronger than the Hulk? He does have an ever so slight size advantage after all

guyver · Post by **guyver** » 2002-10-29 02:50pm

SpiderMan kicks ass....after all he did get to kiss Kirsten Dunst.

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neoolong · Post by **neoolong** » 2002-10-29 03:08pm

Elizar wrote:neoolong - Well, spider-man shooting out spider-silk seems an easy conclusion. I know its not organic, but is still the same ability of spider-silk... could be argued moreso. As guys like the hulk have what seems to be infinite strength.

But you'll note the thread starter said "Ok, in reality, who wins?", so in reality Megatron would be lucky to be standing upright let alone break out of spider-silk.

HDS - I find that highly unlikely, best I've heard of is biosteel, a watered down version of spider-silk. There are I believe some highly secret projects to yield a device to simulate what a spider does. And a magnitude stronger? So a pencil width of this material you've seen could stop a thousand 747s in midflight at once? If this is all true, I can't wait for it to be made public. The military implications alone are astounding.

Ah, but it's still not spider silk per se, it is an artficial liquid that hardens into a strand that behaves kind of like spider silk. Unless it is ever specified that it has the same properties you cannot derive strength comparisons.

But in reality as well Spider-man would actually have to get to Megatron. Megatron would probably detect him and be able to take him out or at least fire at him from a longer distance away. So even if he couldn't break the strand, Spider-man still has to get within range.

neoolong · Post by **neoolong** » 2002-10-29 03:17pm

Oh yeah, black costume Spidey is a bit different and has enhanced abilities. Are there any strength calculations on his webbing? A comparison to red and blue Spidey's webbing can't really be made since it is artificial and so isn't a natural ability that would be enhanced.

Also, does Megatron know about the alien's vulnerabilities to fire and sound?

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