Man get 50 years in prison for raping daughter....(contd)

MKSheppard · Post by **MKSheppard** » 2004-06-16 12:35pm

SYRACUSE, N.Y. (AP) _ A father was sentenced to 50 years to life in prison Wednesday for raping his 11-year-old daughter, who later hung herself.

Timothy Lucie, 46, stood stoically as Onondaga County Judge William Walsh imposed back-to-back sentences of 25 years to life for his conviction on first-degree rape and first-degree sodomy charges. Lucie said nothing before Walsh sentenced him. His wife, Andrea Lucie, hurried from the courtroom in tears, refusing to talk to reporters. She testified in her husband's defense.

``In all my years on this planet, I've never been at a loss for words. Today, I am,'' Walsh said. ``My sentence will have to speak for me.'' Walsh said he would recommend that Lucie serve his sentence at the Clinton Correctional Facility, in a special program that isolates inmates who may be at risk from other prisoners because of the crimes they committed.

Lucie was convicted last month following an eight-day trial. He also was convicted of endangering the welfare of a child. He has appealed his conviction. Lucie was accused of sexually assaulting his daughter, Valerie, in the shower at their Syracuse home Sept. 30. Hours later her 8-year-old brother found her hanging from her bedpost by a dog collar and leash in what police said was an apparent suicide.

A furniture business owner, Lucie confessed to the rape after a six-hour interrogation on Oct. 13. He then recanted as police prepared to put the confession on videotape. Lucie claimed his confession was coerced by police, who he said threatened to arrest his wife and take away his four younger sons if he didn't admit to the sexual attack. Defense attorney Ken Moynihan had little to say, other than objecting to prosecutors' characterization that Lucie was not remorseful about this daughter's death.

Moynihan said Lucie ``deeply misses'' his daughter, but prosecutors never gave him the chance to properly grieve because they immediately made him the subject of a criminal investigation. Chief Assistant District Attorney Christine Garvey asked Walsh to give Lucie 50 years in prison, saying he ``deserved every second in state prison that this court can sentence him to.''

Garvey said there is typically a time at sentencing when family members are allowed to speak on behalf of the victim. ``But there is no one from Valerie Lucie's family to be that child's voice. It is truly sad. An 11-year-old is dead and she doesn't have anybody from her family _ not her aunts or her uncles, or her grandparents, to say what a wonderful child she was, how she was loved and how she will be missed,'' Garvey said.

Instead, Garvey read a short letter composed by Leslie Plucknette, Valerie's former third-grade teacher at Fairbanks Road Elementary School in the Churchville-Chili School District near Rochester. Plucknette sat through the entire trial and was in her usual second-row seat for Wednesday's sentencing. Plucknette's letter described Valerie as an engaging, excitable child, ``a petite, little girl with a smile as wide as her braids were long.'' Plucknette said Valerie ``sang with the voice of an angel,'' and was the star of her third-grade class' performance of ``Charlotte's Web.''

After court, Plucknette stood in the hallway, showing off a photograph of Valerie at a party with some friends. ``If he stays in jail for 50 years, that would be justice,'' she said.

Several jurors also attended the sentencing. Foreman Michael Spado said he, too, was there for Valerie. ``That poor little girl only had 11 years. Fifty years is a satisfactory sentence but it can't bring Valerie back,'' Spado said. Spado said the jury was not allowed to consider Valerie's death as it deliberated the case. However, Spado said he personally held Lucie responsible for Valerie's death.

Faram · Post by **Faram** » 2004-06-16 01:50pm

Fuck what a scumbag!

When he dies I will not shead a tear!

Howedar · Post by **Howedar** » 2004-06-16 01:53pm

A shame they won't let him in with the general prison population so they can fuck him up.

I'm sorry if I sound cruel or something, but raping your fucking child daughter deserves nothing less.

Admiral Valdemar · Post by **Admiral Valdemar** » 2004-06-16 01:58pm

A good sentence, but he should live it out in the general populace of the prison as suggested and want to become one of those suicide statistics himself.

Post by **Alyrium Denryle** » 2004-06-16 01:59pm

Only 50 years? That fucker deserves to be placed on the Judas chair, followed by the Wheel. Then placed in the fucking hanging cage and left in a place where the god damn crows will have ready access to is EYES!!! Then, Once his eyes are gone and he is suffering from exposure, every bone in his body broken, he deserves to be impaled rectally (Vlad style) and be simultaneously disemboweled!!!!!!

But that would be immoral

General Zod · Post by **General Zod** » 2004-06-16 02:01pm

a few months in general population and he'd be begging for the death penalty, assuming he lived that long. Even murderers and hardcore gangmembers don't like child rapists.

Admiral Valdemar · Post by **Admiral Valdemar** » 2004-06-16 02:03pm

Alyrium Denryle wrote:Only 50 years? That fucker deserves to be placed on the Judas chair, followed by the Wheel. Then placed in the fucking hanging cage and left in a place where the god damn crows will have ready access to is EYES!!! Then, Once his eyes are gone and he is suffering from exposure, every bone in his body broken, he deserves to be impaled rectally (Vlad style) and be simultaneously disemboweled!!!!!!

But that would be immoral

Why bother when letting the inmates who have kids have their way with him as the guards turn a blind eye to it would be just as nasty?

Stravo · Post by **Stravo** » 2004-06-16 02:07pm

Why? That's what bothers me most. Why? Why burst in while your daughter is showering then rape her? As a father of a girl I have no clue what sort of thought processes goes on in a man's mind to even think of doing that?

What's sadder is the wife didn't even stand up for her child. She stood by her man. Christ.

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2004-06-16 02:11pm

Stravo wrote:Why? That's what bothers me most. Why? Why burst in while your daughter is showering then rape her? As a father of a girl I have no clue what sort of thought processes goes on in a man's mind to even think of doing that?

There are some people in this world whose thinking is so depraved, so alien to our way of life and our values that we cannot comprehend them or relate to them on any level. This scumbag is such a person.

What's sadder is the wife didn't even stand up for her child. She stood by her man. Christ.

I have to believe she is in total psychological denial. It's not exactly hard to imagine why; can you imagine being in her shoes? Acceptance of the truth would be inconceivable.

Admiral Valdemar · Post by **Admiral Valdemar** » 2004-06-16 02:12pm

We may never know, but criminologists devote their lives to this sort of thing and maybe they could give pointers on how to spot people like this.

Post by **Alyrium Denryle** » 2004-06-16 02:54pm

Admiral Valdemar wrote:
Alyrium Denryle wrote:Only 50 years? That fucker deserves to be placed on the Judas chair, followed by the Wheel. Then placed in the fucking hanging cage and left in a place where the god damn crows will have ready access to is EYES!!! Then, Once his eyes are gone and he is suffering from exposure, every bone in his body broken, he deserves to be impaled rectally (Vlad style) and be simultaneously disemboweled!!!!!!

But that would be immoral
Why bother when letting the inmates who have kids have their way with him as the guards turn a blind eye to it would be just as nasty?

Let me illustrate what needs to happen to him... in order.

http://www.shootingiron.com/chamber/chu ... /judas.jpg

Then this

http://www.shootingiron.com/chamber/chu ... wheelb.jpg
result of which will be this
http://www.shootingiron.com/chamber/chu ... wheela.JPG

then he needs to be placed in this until his skin is cracked with sunburn and he is dehydrated, as well as have had his eyes pecked out

http://www.shootingiron.com/chamber/chu ... cage1b.gif

Then, we can do what the prisoners would do to him... but rather than a penis, do it with a sharpened woor or iron rod.

http://www.shootingiron.com/chamber/chu ... impale.jpg

while simitaneously having his digestive tract winched from his body

http://www.shootingiron.com/chamber/chu ... dsmbwl.jpg

Prison rape doesnt hold a candle.

Oh, and salt can be rubed into his wounds. Or mybe Iodine!! Yes, Iodine!!! Disinfect to prolong his suffering!!!

darthdavid · Post by **darthdavid** » 2004-06-16 04:35pm

I say we do like that one episode of itchy and scratchy. His intestines tied to a bridge over a volcano, him pushed off and then gasoline poured down them.

Post by **Gandalf** » 2004-06-16 10:27pm

Fucker.

If he's not in general population, where will he be?

jenat-lai · Post by **jenat-lai** » 2004-06-16 10:38pm

The sad truth is some people get away with this. I know of such a man (I don't know him I know his victim)

Post by **Alyrium Denryle** » 2004-06-16 10:40pm

Gandalf wrote:Fucker.

If he's not in general population, where will he be?

preferably on the rack.

The Kernel · Post by **The Kernel** » 2004-06-17 01:04am

While I am disgusted by this crime, I have to wonder what the police in this case were thinking. A six hour interrogation complete with threats of taking away his family? I'm all for locking sick fucks like this up, but what the fuck were they thinking? His confession might very well get thrown out on appeal if what he claims about the interrogation turn out to be true...

Captain Cyran · Post by **Captain Cyran** » 2004-06-17 01:16am

Gah, that is way to close to home for me to feel... I dunno, clean I guess. *shiver*

If it's true he should be beaten to near death with a shoe once a week and then left to recuperate just to do it all over again next week.

But that 6 hour interrogation does make me wonder, it might be something he just said to please the police, though at the moment I doubt it.

Post by **RogueIce** » 2004-06-17 01:20am

Reminds me, sort of, the ending of Third Watch one time, where the officer has the guy in lockup, and he's all smug and shit. So she bangs on the cage wall, to get everyone's attention, and says the following:

"Hey guys. Child abuser."

And then turns and walks away. Truely, "street justice" such as this is fitting in cases like these.

18-Till-I-Die · Post by **18-Till-I-Die** » 2004-06-17 01:36am

As a child abuse survivor, my heart goes out to the poor girl, rest her soul. It's just pitiful she had no one to speak for her after she was gone, no one but the DA. It's literally heartbreaking.

Post by **Alyrium Denryle** » 2004-06-17 01:42am

As I have said, we should "relax" the constraints on cruel and unsual punishment for these people.

18-Till-I-Die · Post by **18-Till-I-Die** » 2004-06-17 01:48am

Alyrium Denryle wrote:As I have said, we should "relax" the constraints on cruel and unsual punishment for these people.

Couldnt agree more. Let the gang-killers who have children and nothing to loose get their hands on them. It's not cruel, it's poetic justice; nor is it unusual, it's extremely simple to understand

Post by **Kuja** » 2004-06-17 01:52am

...

That truly disturbs me. I can read a book like Grey Knights where thousands of people are crucified and skinned and shrug it off because hey, it's fiction.

You can't shrug off something like this, though.

Master of Ossus · Post by **Master of Ossus** » 2004-06-17 02:04am

Ugh. If he actually did what he's accused of (and I obviously don't have the facts to rule definitively, one way or the other), then he should rot in prison for the rest of his shortened life. People like this are so reprehensible, so morally bankrupt, and so devoid of the potential for repentence that they really should have their rights removed, since they clearly don't belong to any species I wish to be associated with.

Post by **Alyrium Denryle** » 2004-06-17 02:16am

18-Till-I-Die wrote:
Alyrium Denryle wrote:As I have said, we should "relax" the constraints on cruel and unsual punishment for these people.
Couldnt agree more. Let the gang-killers who have children and nothing to loose get their hands on them. It's not cruel, it's poetic justice; nor is it unusual, it's extremely simple to understand

See my above list of consecutive medieval torture techniques... Prison rape is to good for this fucker.

Sarevok · Post by **Sarevok** » 2004-06-17 02:32am

What kind of sick person would rape their own daughter.