Most Destructive Conflict in Star Wars

JME2 · Post by **JME2** » 2004-06-16 10:39pm

One of the cornerstones of the SW world is conflict; has always been there and always will be in one way or another. Conflict has manifested itself from a simple bar-room brawl to all-out war. Which war as shown in the SW galaxy is, for you, the most destructive and why?

Howedar · Post by **Howedar** » 2004-06-16 10:41pm

I'm going to have to go for the Vong invasion, though I must confess I don't know a great deal about the Great Hyperspace War.

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2004-06-16 10:43pm

The fucking Yuuzhan Vong invasion.

Master of Ossus · Post by **Master of Ossus** » 2004-06-16 11:06pm

The Yuuzhan Vong invasion wiped out half the life in the Galaxy, and destroyed countless worlds, including Coruscant, which shall have to be rebuilt from scratch. It also all but wiped out the Yuuzhan Vong themselves.

The Galactic Civil War and Clone Wars were doubtless destructive, but none of them can lay claim to that kind of loss of life and destruction of property.

frigidmagi · Post by **frigidmagi** » 2004-06-16 11:31pm

Hyperspace War?

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2004-06-16 11:35pm

frigidmagi wrote:Hyperspace War?

5000 years BBY, and 1000 years before the Great Sith War.

It resulted in the fall of the Sith Empire.

Illuminatus Primus · Post by **Illuminatus Primus** » 2004-06-17 12:01am

The Yuuzhan Vong hardly fried or totally decimated that many worlds; and with the manpower and ship resources they had, I don't see how they can.

I think the level of disruption in the economy and industry of the galaxy during and after the Galactic Civil War speaks to the level of destruction and true mayhem which was unleashed.

Drooling Iguana · Post by **Drooling Iguana** » 2004-06-17 12:06am

The Naboo blockade, for the damage it did to the Star Wars franchise...

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2004-06-17 12:19am

Drooling Iguana wrote:The Naboo blockade, for the damage it did to the Star Wars franchise...

You know, personally that kind of crap is getting rather old.

Quadlok · Post by **Quadlok** » 2004-06-17 01:18am

The Yuuzhan Vong invasion.

Think about it, in all the other major conflicts in Star Wars, both sides wanted to take what the other had more or less intact. Sure, the Sith blew up some suns, and numerous planets were BDZed or destroyed outright in the Clone and Galactic Civil Wars, but the Vong were basicly wiping whole planets clean as a matter of course, and sacrificing many of the people they did capture. Plus, the disregard for their own lives certainly pumped up the casualties on their side.

And of course, it seemed like half the planets ever mentioned anywhere in canon or EU got the shaft in that conflict, so it gets points for that too.

Has anyone ever tried to generate some figures for total number of deaths in these wars, or is there insufficient evidence?

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2004-06-17 01:27am

Actually, BDZ operations were quite rare, due to their last resort nature.

Robert Treder · Post by **Robert Treder** » 2004-06-17 05:50am

Well, the YV invasion did end up destroying Coruscant, which hadn't been accomplished in over 25000 years, so that's saying something.

However, it was only made possible by the utter devastation brought on by the latter parts of the Galactic Civil War, a conflict which saw the galaxy's largest ever military brutally crush itself, not to mention it devastated its fair share of worlds, including Alderaan, which had nearly as storied and hallowed a history as Coruscant.

So I have to give it to the good ol' Civil War.

JME2 · Post by **JME2** » 2004-06-17 11:20am

Quadlok wrote:Has anyone ever tried to generate some figures for total number of deaths in these wars, or is there insufficient evidence?

For the other conflicts I'm not sure. But for the YVI, The Unifying Force gives a rough estimate of casualties in the number of 365 trillion.

Illuminatus Primus · Post by **Illuminatus Primus** » 2004-06-17 11:34am

Yeah, the population of Coruscant is supposed to be, at bare minimum, around that amount; even an order of magnitude greater.

And they're probably at least a dozen-odd worlds covered in cityscape. We know of at least one, which should have comparable population.

That population figure is pretty low.

JME2 · Post by **JME2** » 2004-06-17 11:40am

Illuminatus Primus wrote:Yeah, the population of Coruscant is supposed to be, at bare minimum, around that amount; even an order of magnitude greater.

And they're probably at least a dozen-odd worlds covered in cityscape. We know of at least one, which should have comparable population.

That population figure is pretty low.

In the words of Good Burger:

That is why they call it an estimate.

Crazedwraith · Post by **Crazedwraith** » 2004-06-17 11:40am

YVI, well with the mass despoilation of plaents due to dropping moons plagues and biological weapons I think it deserves it. Not to mention the even more mass sacrifice and salvery of entire world populations, 3/4s of fleets being blown away in single shots.

Illuminatus Primus · Post by **Illuminatus Primus** » 2004-06-17 12:01pm

If its an order of magnitude wrong, its not much of an estimate, is it?

PainRack · Post by **PainRack** » 2004-06-17 01:09pm

Fact: The Emperor is known to have utilised biological and chemical weapons in his attacks against the Rebel Alliance. In Darksaber, we learn that Crix Madine was involved in spreading the Death Plague, ISB also notes the usuage of chemical weapons on Rebel worlds.

The Yuzhan Vong so far has destroyed give or take 6 worlds. The Empire undoubtly destroyed life on more. Ithor, Sernipdal, cannot compare to Alderaan, with its greater population density. Furthermore, the Galactic Civil war should properly include rogue actions by people as varied as Kyp Duron, which unleashed a supernova on Carida. Imperial massacre and bombardments aside, Imperial punishment, like the transporting of a planet ocean detailed in IIRC Tyrant Test, also doomed all life to die.

Fact: The NR fleet casualties in terms of ships is measured up to the lower end of thousand at most. The Imperial fleet losses, with vessels more powerful and larger than the NR is measured up to a million.

Fact: The Yuzhan Vong invasion has left entire sectors of the SWU relatively intact and untouched by the war. The Galactic Civil War involved virtually every sector through the Deep Core to the Outer Rim and Unknown Regions.

Crazedwraith · Post by **Crazedwraith** » 2004-06-17 01:13pm

PainRack wrote:The Yuzhan Vong so far has destroyed give or take 6 worlds. The Empire undoubtly destroyed life on more. Ithor, Sernipdal, cannot compare to Alderaan, with its greater population density. Furthermore, the Galactic Civil war should properly include rogue actions by people as varied as Kyp Duron, which unleashed a supernova on Carida. Imperial massacre and bombardments aside, Imperial punishment, like the transporting of a planet ocean detailed in IIRC Tyrant Test, also doomed all life to die.
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Ad none of the worlds the emprie destroyed can compare to Corusant.

Illuminatus Primus · Post by **Illuminatus Primus** » 2004-06-17 02:34pm

Yeah, but since the total number killed in the whole war was comparable to a lower limit on Coruscant's population, which is more likely an order of magnitude higher, you can't really use that to prove anything. Most citizens on the cityworld must've gotten away.

Lord Pounder · Post by **Lord Pounder** » 2004-06-17 02:59pm

Ithor however was a heavily populated word IIRC, was was Duros which had it's floating cities blasted IIRC. People also forget Rommadool(sp) and it's neighbouring world, which can be argued to be a casualty because Nom Anor was involved. The military losses where also catastrophic. An entire Hapan battle group routed accidently plus countless battleships and fighters.

Solauren · Post by **Solauren** » 2004-06-17 04:15pm

The vong made it a POINT to wipe out the sentient populations of any worlds they captured, and they also killed refuges as quick as they caught them
i.e smashing thousands of freighters into Coruscants planetary shields

The Vong also wiped out most of Coruscants population, and killed a number of planets. They planned to turn the Wars galaxy into a duplicate of there original. There original didn't have all those pesky non-believers....

The Vong was was the most destructive over all.

CaptainChewbacca · Post by **CaptainChewbacca** » 2004-06-17 05:41pm

And don't forget the Vong completely wiped out the Yevetha and depopulated the Koornacht cluster. I voted for the YVI, but what was the "Hyperspace war"?

Haze Gray · Post by **Haze Gray** » 2004-06-17 05:45pm

The Great Hyperspace War was the war between the Sith Empire and the fledgling Republic. One of the major battles was when the Sith invaded Coruscant and were defeated by the ancient Jedi. The War resulted in the defeat of the Sith Empire and the expansion of the Republic.

President Sharky · Post by **President Sharky** » 2004-06-17 08:37pm

Coruscant's population is 1 trillion, of that, only an estimated 100 billion were killed in the attack. However, the Vong spoiled thousands of worlds in the GFFA. It completely outmatched what the Empire did.

It does not matter if you include the Carida supernova, because Carida's population is a mere 25 million. Very few worlds were damaged beyond repair. Alderaan only had 2 billion inhabitants.

In the YVI, Bilbringi, Duro, Bastion, Ithor, Gydine, Tynna, Nal Hutta (with over 95 billion pop) and Nar Shadda (72 billion), Garqi, Falleen, Rodia, Druckenwell, Kalarba, Fondor, etc... were all overrun and "reshaped". Their populations enslaved, cities obliterated. The Empire rarely did that, but the Vong did it to almost every planet under their control. In other instances, the Vong BDZ whole planets, such as Barab I and N'zoth, rendering some species nearly extinct (Yevetha).

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