Star Destroyers

Lex · Post by **Lex** » 2004-06-10 11:03am

OK but in XWA(games are half-canon) at least, the two globes definitly are the shield gens, and if they are destroyed shields are down. There's no evidence in the film to prove me otherwise. Just in the books i guess. or in the logic.

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2004-06-10 11:06am

Lex wrote:OK but in XWA(games are half-canon) at least, the two globes definitly are the shield gens, and if they are destroyed shields are down. There's no evidence in the film to prove me otherwise. Just in the books i guess. or in the logic.

Now if game mechanics counted all that observation might matter. But they don't.

Stofsk · Post by **Stofsk** » 2004-06-10 11:08am

Lex wrote:OK but in XWA(games are half-canon) at least, the two globes definitly are the shield gens, and if they are destroyed shields are down. There's no evidence in the film to prove me otherwise. Just in the books i guess. or in the logic.

Games are half-canon due to plot developments, NOT due to technical implications.

When a game says, as part of it's story, that x happened and y was involved, we're inclined to accept it.

When a game says that the sensor globes on top of a ISD are actually shield globes, it's part of game mechanics and thus disregarded.

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2004-06-10 12:11pm

Lex, there's nothing new at all you can argue for the tower globes being shield generators/projectors. IIRC, this is far from the first time that you have both argued for them being shield generators and have been told that they are not. Your evidence is even the same as before.

Just accept that they're not, the games and assorted EU books are wrong, and stop tredging up old, long settled issues.

Wild Karrde · Post by **Wild Karrde** » 2004-06-10 12:24pm

CINEFEX #13, p.55, 3 February 1983 wrote:
We're also still working on the sequence where Mad Max crashes his A-wing into Vader's ship and causes the star destroyer to lose control and crash into the Deathstar. The penetration shot with the mushroom-cloud explosion we've had for some time, and we've got the shot where the ship's been hit and is starting to heel over. A very large explosion is coming out of the bridge area and it's causing several others to go as well; and one of the big radar domes up on top has been blown away, and that's spewing flames. It's pretty spectacular. Between that sort of closeup of the bridge section and the long-shot of the surface, we need two more cuts of the ship continuing to heel over and dropping towards the Deathstar like an arrow. We've shot a number of elements on those - explosions and things that have to be projected onto the miniatures - and so they're pretty much ready to go. Don Dow will be shooting those tomorrow.

— Richard Edlund (who shared ILM's 1983 Academy Award for ROTJ special effects).

Illuminatus Primus · Post by **Illuminatus Primus** » 2004-06-10 03:02pm

You know I love how TFNers say "well that's not official, the books later are blah blah blah" and turn right around and eat up whatever comes out of Hyperspace, even though that certainly would've fit the same catagory if ROTJ was being made today.

Lex · Post by **Lex** » 2004-06-11 07:40am

Spanky The Dolphin wrote:Lex, there's nothing new at all you can argue for the tower globes being shield generators/projectors. IIRC, this is far from the first time that you have both argued for them being shield generators and have been told that they are not. Your evidence is even the same as before.

Just accept that they're not, the games and assorted EU books are wrong, and stop tredging up old, long settled issues.

I don't recall talking about that before.

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2004-06-11 12:21pm

Well I swear that you have.

Publius · Post by **Publius** » 2004-06-11 07:03pm

One must also remember that in some of the video games (e.g., TIE Fighter), it is possible to secure power to one's engines and coast to a halt while in space. Because of the particular requirements of the video game media, technical details within it are of dubious value at best; surely one would never be so fatuous as to argue that as there is nothing to the contrary in the films, Dash Rendar must be capable of sustaining numerous blastershot wounds without losing any mobility, would one?

PUBLIUS

Soulman · Post by **Soulman** » 2004-06-19 01:01pm

If you can jam cameras then use a biological solution. They could easily mount modified eyeballs in cameras on the hull.

PainRack · Post by **PainRack** » 2004-06-19 01:05pm

Soulman wrote:If you can jam cameras then use a biological solution. They could easily mount modified eyeballs in cameras on the hull.

Errr. how do you do this?

Lord Pounder · Post by **Lord Pounder** » 2004-06-19 05:52pm

PainRack wrote:
Soulman wrote:If you can jam cameras then use a biological solution. They could easily mount modified eyeballs in cameras on the hull.
Errr. how do you do this?

Vong tech?

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2004-06-19 05:56pm

I pray to God that's a joke...

Lord Pounder · Post by **Lord Pounder** » 2004-06-19 06:02pm

Of course it was, my lack of

may not have made it obvious.

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2004-06-19 06:03pm

Lord Pounder wrote:Of course it was, my lack of may not have made it obvious.

Not you, Soulman's original suggestion. My God, that's one of the worst things I've ever heard...

Barbatis · Post by **Barbatis** » 2004-06-30 03:50pm

Im curious what are the domes of a Star Destroyer if they arnt shield Generators.

Jordie · Post by **Jordie** » 2004-06-30 03:52pm

Barbatis wrote:Im curious what are the domes of a Star Destroyer if they arnt shield Generators.

Read the site, look around on the board, and read the announcements, this has been answered repeatedly.

Barbatis · Post by **Barbatis** » 2004-06-30 04:13pm

oops thanks I skipped over that.

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2004-06-30 04:27pm

Barbatis wrote:oops thanks I skipped over that.

You seem to also have skipped over the fact that that very issue was being addressed on every page since the second page of this thread.

Post by **Ghost Rider** » 2004-06-30 06:18pm

Described as Sensor globes...not shield.

Also a wee bit necromatic for something described on the main site.

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