Have you ever had an experience that you couldn't explain??

TrailerParkJawa · Post by **TrailerParkJawa** » 2002-10-26 01:48am

In February I went to Reno with a group of friends. We were staying at the Reno Hilton. There were 4 of us in one of the hotel rooms getting ready for dinner.

1 friend was in the bathroom, 1 was laying on the bed, 1 was changing, and I was standing next to the tv which was on.

The TV was turned to Reno news. The friend that was changing asked her hubsand, the one in the bathroom, for a glass of water.

About 10-15 seconds later, the TV started to sound like there was some sort of interference like a second audio channel was there. Kinda like being halfway between two radio stations.

Then my friends voice asking her husband for a glass of water came from the TV. ( the same exact phrase she had asked about 10-15 seconds earlier )

I thought I was hearing shit, so I looked at the guy laying on the bed. He heard it too, we both freaked. The other two did not. She did not repeat her request so I dunno what happened.

I have no idea what I experienced but it was certainly BIZARRE!

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2002-10-26 01:52am

TrailerParkJawa wrote:In February I went to Reno with a group of friends. We were staying at the Reno Hilton. There were 4 of us in one of the hotel rooms getting ready for dinner.

1 friend was in the bathroom, 1 was laying on the bed, 1 was changing, and I was standing next to the tv which was on.

The TV was turned to Reno news. The friend that was changing asked her hubsand, the one in the bathroom, for a glass of water.

About 10-15 seconds later, the TV started to sound like there was some sort of interference like a second audio channel was there. Kinda like being halfway between two radio stations.

Then my friends voice asking her husband for a glass of water came from the TV. ( the same exact phrase she had asked about 10-15 seconds earlier )

I thought I was hearing shit, so I looked at the guy laying on the bed. He heard it too, we both freaked. The other two did not. She did not repeat her request so I dunno what happened.

I have no idea what I experienced but it was certainly BIZARRE!

Bizarre in a "sue the hotel" sense, not bizarre in a "break the laws of physics" sense. You were probably being monitored by hotel security. Somebody fucked up and part of the audio signal got broadcast on the cable (there are a variety of ways this could happen). There have been a number of scandals in the US about hotel staff and security using audio and video equipment to peep in on guests without their knowledge. In one case, they even made porno tapes of newleweds in the honeymoon suite and distributed them amongst themselves.

TrailerParkJawa · Post by **TrailerParkJawa** » 2002-10-26 02:04am

That makes sense. I wonder if the monitoring was only audio or video as well.

XaLEv · Post by **XaLEv** » 2002-10-26 03:38am

I can't really think of any wierd experiences I have had right now.

TrailerParkJawa wrote:In February I went to Reno with a group of friends. We were staying at the Reno Hilton. There were 4 of us in one of the hotel rooms getting ready for dinner.

1 friend was in the bathroom, 1 was laying on the bed, 1 was changing, and I was standing next to the tv which was on.

The TV was turned to Reno news. The friend that was changing asked her hubsand, the one in the bathroom, for a glass of water.

About 10-15 seconds later, the TV started to sound like there was some sort of interference like a second audio channel was there. Kinda like being halfway between two radio stations.

Then my friends voice asking her husband for a glass of water came from the TV. ( the same exact phrase she had asked about 10-15 seconds earlier )

I thought I was hearing shit, so I looked at the guy laying on the bed. He heard it too, we both freaked. The other two did not. She did not repeat her request so I dunno what happened.

I have no idea what I experienced but it was certainly BIZARRE!

My dad told me about something like that which happened to a woman where he works. I can't quite remember, but I think she got a voicemail which was part of a conversation she had with her husband.

Newtonian Fury wrote:I can't explain how I am such a disturbing poet. English is not even my first language yet somehow I manage to write poems that most people agree are good but obsessively scary...

You're gonna share, right?

Dooey Jo · Post by **Dooey Jo** » 2002-10-26 09:31am

Some time ago, I woke up in the middle of the night. I looked at the place where my TV stands, don't really know why, just to find out that it was still there. So, I close my eyes again and realizes something; how could I see the TV? It's pitch-black in the room. I open my eyes again and look at my book shelf, standing to the right of the TV. Now I could see part of that, but I couldn't see the TV. I look at some other stuff, and it was like I had a flashlight or something in my eyes; the place I was looking at lit up.
I got a bit scared, for reasons unknown, and turned on the light. After a while I turned it off again and I still could see things in my room, just like before, but only for a short while. It disappeared after half a minute or something...

Damn shit!! I want it back!!! I got it back one other night but only for a brief moment.... Crap...

Post by **Beowulf** » 2002-10-26 01:37pm

The past 2 1/2 years with my GF... Meaning the fact that I actually have one...

Post by **Mr Bean** » 2002-10-26 01:54pm

I've acutal experansed what Wong is mentioning back in my HS Days volintuered to be part of a Study at one of the Local Collages which did an outreach program to the HS

They hooked us up and we "Met God" is how they refered to it when testing what happen when slight stimunlations are place on sections of the brain

Our part was to see how much/little did over know sections

I'll tell you it was intresting espcilly when the showed a neat trick in combination with that where a slight changing of the current location and a additonal simutlation changes it from being in the pressance to BEING the Pressance of all-knowling masterful power

Lemme tell you its a good thing its so hard to trigger that feeling(Due to few Scientist knowing how and where plus having the nessary equipment)

I'd describe it as that rush feeling of being invurable + the feeling of being able to do anything =The biggest fucking Deliousion of Grandur possible

(Probalby how Black Mage feels 24/7

)

Yogi · Post by **Yogi** » 2002-10-26 01:55pm

Darth Wong wrote:Neurotheology is the study of religious experiences in the brain. It has been discovered that during periods of "nirvana" while meditating test subjects were hooked up to medical scanners, it was observed that the spatial awareness part of the brain goes inactive, along with a few other key higher brain-function areas.

In other words, a spiritual experience is not some supernatural phenomenon affecting you; it is actually a temporary shutdown of part of your brain. Yes, spiritual experiences are brain dysfunctions. Sorry.

Despite the fact that I am an Athiest, I would like to question that conclusion. EVERYTHING we expirience is due to things happening in your brain. Let's say I see an apple. That is expressed in my brain as neurons firing in XYZ parts of the brain. It would be a false to say that "the apple is an illusion, it's only the XYZ parts of the brain malfunctioning." Simlarly, it would be false to say "The expirience you had was an illusion, since it wasjust PQR parts of the brain going nuts."

aerius · Post by **aerius** » 2002-10-26 02:37pm

I got piss ass drunk watching hockey with some friends at a bar downtown and somehow made it home. Even more amazing is that I somehow changed into my pyjamas after getting home, and all this time I had enough liquor in me that I was a stumbling zombie. To this day I still don't know what happened between the time I stumbled out of the bar and when I woke up the next day.

Durandal · Post by **Durandal** » 2002-10-26 04:56pm

Despite the fact that I am an Athiest, I would like to question that conclusion. EVERYTHING we expirience is due to things happening in your brain. Let's say I see an apple. That is expressed in my brain as neurons firing in XYZ parts of the brain. It would be a false to say that "the apple is an illusion, it's only the XYZ parts of the brain malfunctioning." Simlarly, it would be false to say "The expirience you had was an illusion, since it wasjust PQR parts of the brain going nuts."

You're forgetting the key factor: stimuli. We have observed that, without stimuli, nothing happens. Therefore, there must be something to make certain parts of the brain react the way they did.

Besides, we could also measure the minuscule heat increase in your eye from the photons hitting it, if you wanted. There are plenty of ways to verify that your eye is, indeed, interacting with something.

As for my own unexplained experience, there is one that is ongoing. On more than a few occasions, I've had predictive visions of what episode of The Simpsons will be on television on a given day, usually no more than a few hours before the show comes on. It usually comes in the form of a scene or line from the episode just popping into my head randomly. It's odd, because I've never really consciously determined that I'm going to watch TV when it happens. I just kind of find myself plopped on the couch watching TV.

Now, the possible explanation could be pattern recognition in the brain with reasonable predictive accuracy. I tend to watch the show a lot, and I've seen many of the episodes multiple times, so my brain could be getting a good feel of how the programmers at Fox are scheduling things. However, there have been times where lines or scenes have popped into my head from an episode which I did not see that day, or just wasn't on. So, it's not 100% accurate.

No, seriously. I'm not kidding.

Dammit, stop laughing, I'm not joking!

Yogi · Post by **Yogi** » 2002-10-26 06:00pm

Durandal wrote:You're forgetting the key factor: stimuli. We have observed that, without stimuli, nothing happens. Therefore, there must be something to make certain parts of the brain react the way they did.

Are you suporting my position then, that what happens must be a result of some stimuli?

Durandal · Post by **Durandal** » 2002-10-26 06:04pm

What I'm basically saying is that if a stimulus has an observable effect, the stimulus itself must be observable or real.

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2002-10-26 07:35pm

Yogi wrote:
Darth Wong wrote:Neurotheology is the study of religious experiences in the brain. It has been discovered that during periods of "nirvana" while meditating test subjects were hooked up to medical scanners, it was observed that the spatial awareness part of the brain goes inactive, along with a few other key higher brain-function areas.

In other words, a spiritual experience is not some supernatural phenomenon affecting you; it is actually a temporary shutdown of part of your brain. Yes, spiritual experiences are brain dysfunctions. Sorry.
Despite the fact that I am an Athiest, I would like to question that conclusion. EVERYTHING we expirience is due to things happening in your brain. Let's say I see an apple.

Yes, but they are not necessarily due to something real, and when they are due to some part of your brain SHUTTING DOWN, it is hard to argue that they represent something beneficial or helpful.

That is expressed in my brain as neurons firing in XYZ parts of the brain. It would be a false to say that "the apple is an illusion, it's only the XYZ parts of the brain malfunctioning." Simlarly, it would be false to say "The expirience you had was an illusion, since it was just PQR parts of the brain going nuts."

Except that it was NOT parts of the brain "going nuts". It was parts of the brain SHUTTING OFF.

Besides, if there is no objective stimulus to produce the perception, then the perception is a hallucination! It happens all the time; it's called delusional psychosis.

Uraniun235 · Post by **Uraniun235** » 2002-10-27 12:09am

Last month, I bolted out of bed, heart racing, convinced that there was an intruder in the house that was very dangerous. I stood facing the door, getting ready to face death, when it occurred to me to call 911.

My finger was on the '9' button when I started to doubt myself. After about 15 minutes I took a big heavy rock that I keep in my room (it looks pretty) and checked the house. Nothing at all; everything was as it should be.

I still don't know what caused that.

Neurotheology is the study of religious experiences in the brain. It has been discovered that during periods of "nirvana" while meditating test subjects were hooked up to medical scanners, it was observed that the spatial awareness part of the brain goes inactive, along with a few other key higher brain-function areas.

In other words, a spiritual experience is not some supernatural phenomenon affecting you; it is actually a temporary shutdown of part of your brain. Yes, spiritual experiences are brain dysfunctions. Sorry.

Wow. Would you happen to have any good links regarding that on hand? I'd like to read more about it.

XaLEv · Post by **XaLEv** » 2002-10-27 12:17am

Uraniun235 wrote:Last month, I bolted out of bed, heart racing, convinced that there was an intruder in the house that was very dangerous. I stood facing the door, getting ready to face death, when it occurred to me to call 911.

My finger was on the '9' button when I started to doubt myself. After about 15 minutes I took a big heavy rock that I keep in my room (it looks pretty) and checked the house. Nothing at all; everything was as it should be.

I still don't know what caused that.

I had something sorta like that a few months ago. I had what I am sure was a dream that I was laying in my bed, and there was something on the wall above me. I woke up, in the same position as I was in the dream, jumped out of bed and turned on the light. I just stood there, looking for whatever it was for about five minutes before I turned off the light and laid back down. It took me at least 15 minutes to get back to sleep. Scared the shit out of me.

Post by **Lagmonster** » 2002-10-27 08:43am

If you seriously research what's happened to you, study, and ask the advice of people who have seriously tested the same phenomena for others, you'll almost always find a reasonable conclusion. The 'unsolved' ghost and paranormal stories are almost always the ones that happened over a course of time 'several to hundreds of years ago', and are unrepeatable (interestingly enough, the so-called 'resurrection' of Jesus falls into this category).

Post by **haas mark** » 2002-10-27 08:50am

THe fact that things prolly aren't gonna work out between me and this guy Jesse that I like unless I get a third party involved...always the third person....

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2002-10-27 09:45am

Uraniun235 wrote:
Darth Wong wrote:Neurotheology is the study of religious experiences in the brain. It has been discovered that during periods of "nirvana" while meditating test subjects were hooked up to medical scanners, it was observed that the spatial awareness part of the brain goes inactive, along with a few other key higher brain-function areas.

In other words, a spiritual experience is not some supernatural phenomenon affecting you; it is actually a temporary shutdown of part of your brain. Yes, spiritual experiences are brain dysfunctions. Sorry.
Wow. Would you happen to have any good links regarding that on hand? I'd like to read more about it.

I got it from a Time Magazine article (yes, I still read old-fashioned print magazines on occasion). I'm sure a Google search would reveal more information.

Tosho · Post by **Tosho** » 2002-10-27 12:17pm

Uraniun235 wrote:
Neurotheology is the study of religious experiences in the brain. It has been discovered that during periods of "nirvana" while meditating test subjects were hooked up to medical scanners, it was observed that the spatial awareness part of the brain goes inactive, along with a few other key higher brain-function areas.

In other words, a spiritual experience is not some supernatural phenomenon affecting you; it is actually a temporary shutdown of part of your brain. Yes, spiritual experiences are brain dysfunctions. Sorry.
Wow. Would you happen to have any good links regarding that on hand? I'd like to read more about it.

I posted a link on the 2nd page of this thread.

TrailerParkJawa · Post by **TrailerParkJawa** » 2002-10-27 02:43pm

I got it from a Time Magazine article (yes, I still read old-fashioned print magazines on occasion). I'm sure a Google search would reveal more information.

Off topic, but damn Im never gonna subscribe to Time again. Ive gotten tons of junk mail from them and they started sending me renewal notices 3 months into my 12 months subscription.

To boost, they keep sending me senior citizen rates. ??? Im 31 you morons!

/RANT

Another funny thing I cant explain is I swear I remember when I was a young child that Pete Rose was killed in a plane crash. It was on the news during one Saturday morning.

I realize this didnt happen. It must have been some other baseball player.

Post by **haas mark** » 2002-10-27 09:30pm

How I manage to get 50+ junk mails in span of 6 hrs....

Stuart Mackey · Post by **Stuart Mackey** » 2002-10-28 07:54am

Well i cannot say I have had any hair raising supernatuaral experiences..but I know a few people that have.
The worst one I know of happned to a mate of mine and some of his freinds who were flatting at this old house. This house could not keep tennents for more than a week for a very good reason.
After eleven oclock, nasty shit happned. One room had a old window that could not be opened or closed without making extreme noise, enough to wake most people up. In summer it was left open, and every morning it was closed, with no one entering the room. Also, you could not move the bed froma certain position with out it being moved back. my freind also saw a pair of wee goasties having a chat, along with the room going deathly cold, and one of the tennants was picked up and thrown against a wall, his elbow went through the wall well above head height, no one in the immdiate vacinity, and he was sober. All this combined with doors opening, cubords opening and closing, extreme cold etc.

Another nasty bit of shit refers to a story I heard from a corporal in the NZ army. At our main training camp, Waiarou, there is a particular abultion block that after a certain time no one is allowed to enter. one of the mirros, at the end of the sinks is also removed.
What would happen is that, no one in the barracks, wet footprints on the floor, and after a certain time, if you looked in the mirror at the end of the row, you saw a man who had hung himself. usual extreme cold, even during the summer.

Post by **Lagmonster** » 2002-10-28 08:41am

Stuart Mackey wrote:Well i cannot say I have had any hair raising supernatuaral experiences...(clipped out interesting ghost stories)

I don't think I've heard that last one before. Mirrors are often popular sources of spooklore because you can do a surprising amount of optic tricks with a seemingly flat mirrored surface. Still, the story sounds neat. Any back story or relevant locational information that I could use to dig up and see if anyone really died there (which would make the story real campfire material), or if it's pure hooey?

Stuart Mackey · Post by **Stuart Mackey** » 2002-10-28 08:53am

Lagmonster wrote:
Stuart Mackey wrote:Well i cannot say I have had any hair raising supernatuaral experiences...(clipped out interesting ghost stories)
I don't think I've heard that last one before. Mirrors are often popular sources of spooklore because you can do a surprising amount of optic tricks with a seemingly flat mirrored surface. Still, the story sounds neat. Any back story or relevant locational information that I could use to dig up and see if anyone really died there (which would make the story real campfire material), or if it's pure hooey?

That last one I only know as much as I was told, and Its from the NZ army so it wil not be widly known outside of the NZ army, and I dont know much more than that. The other storys are true as far as I know, my freind saw some of that shit happen.

Post by **Lagmonster** » 2002-10-28 10:01am

Stuart Mackey wrote:That last one I only know as much as I was told, and Its from the NZ army so it wil not be widly known outside of the NZ army, and I dont know much more than that. The other storys are true as far as I know, my freind saw some of that shit happen.

Fair enough. The military is populated with vast amounts of ghost stories, for obvious reasons. Although I've never heard any from NZ before. Tell your friend, then next time the see something like a ghost floating down the hall, go try to kick it in the 'nads. You'd be surprised how much inner strength and fortitude a person can get from even seeming to kick a thing in the 'nads. And I'm serious, too. If it's a floaty blob and you think it's talking - kick it in the 'nads. At the very least, if the thing's still there afterwards and talking, you have a real find on your hands. *laugh*