Pepper Spray used on Smoking Passenger.

jenat-lai · Post by **jenat-lai** » 2004-06-26 09:06am

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An unruly passenger's nicotine craving led to a brawl on board a Braathens plane and Bodø police subdued the violent drunk with pepper spray. Several passengers seated near the conflict were also affected by the spray, newspaper VG reports.
The trouble started after a man lit a cigarette in the toilet of a non-smoking flight from Tromsø to Trondheim on Thursday evening. The plane made an intermediate landing in Bodø and the smoker was asked to leave with cabin personnel for a chat.

The man refused to budge and police were called, but even these reinforcements failed to convince the difficult passenger to leave the plane.

"He was clearly intoxicated, angry and began to punch wildly and swore a lot," a passenger told VG.

Bodø police sent three men into the plane and soon decided that pepper spray was needed to subdue him. Other passengers came into contact with the spray, those nearest reportedly experienced extreme discomfort.

Both police and the airline defended the methods used and the violent smoker, described as an English-speaking Norwegian citizen, spent the night under arrest. He is charged with vagrancy and also faces charges from the airline.

Post by **Gandalf** » 2004-06-26 09:14am

Wow, that's pretty neat.

Seems like just enough force.

aerius · Post by **aerius** » 2004-06-26 11:22am

Where's the LAPD when you need'em? I'd love to see that jackass passenger get beaten over the head with a 4D Maglite.

Evil Sadistic Bastard · Post by **Evil Sadistic Bastard** » 2004-06-26 12:01pm

aerius wrote:Where's the LAPD when you need'em? I'd love to see that jackass passenger get beaten over the head with a 4D Maglite.

Reminds me of the old joke:

The President releases a rabbit into the forest, then tells the FBI, the CIA and the LAPD to find it.

The CIA sends in multiple deep cover operatives, mounts a multi-million-dollar search and recovery program, then returns empty-handed after three weeks and admits defeat.

The FBI sends in an ATF SWAT team, and they proceed to burn the forest down in their searcg, but in the end they too find nothing.

The LAPD sends a squad in, and five minutes later, they bring out a bloody and battered bear whimpering, "All right! All right! I'm a rabbit! I'm a rabbit!"

Back on topic: good thinking, using pepper spray. The only shame was the collateral damage to the adjacent passengers.

SecondStorm · Post by **SecondStorm** » 2004-06-26 12:26pm

Nice job. Least amount of force needed was used.

In Arizona they would have used a taser.

EmperorChrostas the Cruel · Post by **EmperorChrostas the Cruel** » 2004-06-26 06:30pm

Dumb as a soup sandwitch. Using pepper spray in a sealed environment.
This was clearly a job for blunt force trauma, brute strength, and or electricity.
Because he was drunk, he probably suffered less pain than the innocent bystanders next to him.

salm · Post by **salm** » 2004-06-26 06:47pm

meh, if they had used brute force the guy could have taken permanent damage. with pepper spray he couldn´t and the other people weren´t either.

darthdavid · Post by **darthdavid** » 2004-06-26 07:25pm

Evil Sadistic Bastard wrote:
aerius wrote:Where's the LAPD when you need'em? I'd love to see that jackass passenger get beaten over the head with a 4D Maglite.
Reminds me of the old joke:

The President releases a rabbit into the forest, then tells the FBI, the CIA and the LAPD to find it.

The CIA sends in multiple deep cover operatives, mounts a multi-million-dollar search and recovery program, then returns empty-handed after three weeks and admits defeat.

The FBI sends in an ATF SWAT team, and they proceed to burn the forest down in their searcg, but in the end they too find nothing.

The LAPD sends a squad in, and five minutes later, they bring out a bloody and battered bear whimpering, "All right! All right! I'm a rabbit! I'm a rabbit!"

Back on topic: good thinking, using pepper spray. The only shame was the collateral damage to the adjacent passengers.

You got it wrong. The CIA is supposed to announce that after an exhaustive study the CIA determines that there are no rabbits.

EmperorChrostas the Cruel · Post by **EmperorChrostas the Cruel** » 2004-06-26 08:33pm

To Salm.
SO WHAT? Better to cripple this turd with a spinal injury than to hurt the innocent. You mess with the bull, you get the horns.
You don't fuck with the police to the point where you are throwing punches and expect to come off unhurt. Wrestling with cops is a bad idea, and if you are permanently injured, too bad!
More to the point, TASERs. 150kv of muscle spasm delight..
Chemical weapons in an airtight confined area with innocents is STUPID. Had one of the innocents been asthmatic, they could have DIED, from a weapon noted for being less effective on drunks.
Then you or someone like you would be crying your eyes out about the loss of innocent life, when the "swarm" tactic should've been employed.
Did they even use the simple idea of getting everyone else away from the area before squirting away?
If YOU were one of the innocent would you be pacified by the shoulder shrugging dismissive, "Well, in wasn't permanent?" What's a few hours of severe pain to an innocent bystander when we achieved the noble goal of not hurting the guilty?
Have YOU ever been pepperspreyed? I have been exposed to both tear gas, and pepperspey, and I can tell you with great accuracy, it ain't nuttin' nice.
Had you ever been, you would not dismiss the suffering so casualy.

Oni Koneko Damien · Post by **Oni Koneko Damien** » 2004-06-27 11:16am

The title of the thread is a bit misleading. I was expecting a story about a miscarriage of justice in that someone got a face full of pepper spray merely for smoking on the plane. Anyways, aside from that, yeah, the drunken moron appears to have gotten what he deserved, though I agree there were probably better ways to go about it.

-Damien