Col. Crackpot wrote:
no, im arguing that the shields were DOWN.
Which is a fucking stupid assumption to make, since there would be no reason to leave shields down in a combat situation. Why not simply claim the AOTC ICS is wrong and they don't have shielding at all?
How else can we explain the TradeFed sphere being brought down by 4 beams that were not of sufficient power to cause a noticible reaction in the atmosphere that surrounded them.
1.) Beam weapons are not a fucking bomb. As pointed out already, its going to depend on how that energy is DELIVERED.
2.) Blaster bolts don't radiate that much energy away to begin with (neither do lightsabers, for that matter, which would cause similar problems to what you're trying to claim. Qui Gon melting the blast door in TPM is a good example, since that involves energy levels that are at a minimum, hundreds of megajoules, and could easily be an order of magnitude greater.) And once they strike the shield, why would we neccesarily see any other interactions? Did you watch TPM or TESB? I didn't see AT-AT bolts (or Snowspeeder bolts, for that matter) vaporizing snow (and bolts hit the ground, same with the ground in TPM.)
As for the ICS mention of radiators on the Acclimator, i don't see the relevance. The target is not an Acclimator. Apples to Apples please.
So apparently according to your logic, the Acclamator is the ONLY ship to ever use neutrino radiators? What are you goign to claim next, the Acclamator is the only ship to ever have 200 GT TLs? That the Aethersprite and Geonosian fighters can move at hypersonic speeds through atmosphere, but an X-wing can't? Oh wait, I know! I bet if a ship doesn't have heat sink capacity or a rated dissipation value too, that must mean that they don't exist at all!
Fucking brilliant logic there, boyo.
i'm not questioning the weapon output of vessels engaged in space battles..
Its relevant, since you insist that capital ships are totally incapable of storing or holding energy without instantly dissipating it.
we are debating how the fuck can a capital ship be brought down by tactical battlefield weapons that aren't hot enough to visibly react with the air molecules surrounding them.
That presumes the weapon in question will in fact readily interact with atmosphere. What about, say, the Ion cannon at Hoth? How do you propose IT penetrated shields, since by your logic it could not have carried enough energy to overwhelm an ISD's shield because we didn't see any appreciable atmospheric effects.
For that matter, what about the AT-AT guns firing on the shield generator at "maximum firepower"? Those are CANONICALLY calced at tens or hundreds of kilotons per bolt , yet by your logic they should not be that powerful because they don't interact with the atmosphere noticably?
And lets not of course forget the TPM blast door, since lightsabers obviously CANNOT carry the sort of energy ouput required to melt the door to the degree it did, since lightsabers don't heat up the surrounding atmosphere!
Like I said, fucking brilliant logic you have there.
I merely presented an arguement that was logical and that wouldn't piss on the esablished capship weapons calcs. The shields had to have been down, and Trade Fed battleships have to be inferior to Republic starships.
You're being fucking obstinate and hiding behind the same "movie canon overrides all" bullshit that the more rabid trolls at SB have used to dimsiss the ICS (or anything official or such they did not like and wanted to outright ignore.) Apparently your understanding of Suspension of Disbelief/analysis does not extend to comprehending the bit about only dismissing evidence when
absolutely fucking neccessary. Care to prove that it IS neccessary, rather than just screaming "I'm right and I don't care what says otherwise?"
