Saddam back in power? I give it a year.

Frank Hipper · Post by **Frank Hipper** » 2004-06-29 09:44pm

Honestly, with the ongoing trainwreck of internecine skirmishing, how many Iraqis do you think are beginning to pine for the Good Old Days of Saddam's stability and control?

CBS just reported that he's already made a bid to run in free and open democratic elections...

I may be overreacting, but I will be the last person shocked if it happens.

Post by **Gandalf** » 2004-06-29 09:47pm

Isn't he is prison?

How can you run a country from prison?

Rogue 9 · Post by **Rogue 9** » 2004-06-29 09:48pm

I dunno, one mayor of Boston won reelection while in prison. I forget his name, though.

Still, I seriously doubt it.

desertjedi · Post by **desertjedi** » 2004-06-29 11:22pm

Man those Iraquis are going to pass a law saying the death penalty is legal and they are going to kll him. If they don't, the Kurds and the .. I think the shiites, whichever majority group was being cracked down upon (damn I can't form a coherent thoguht tonight) during Saddam's reign will want blood and they'll want it from the new government....

Lord Poe · Post by **Lord Poe** » 2004-06-29 11:34pm

It must be a joke. saddam is going to make his first court appearance tomorrow

frigidmagi · Post by **frigidmagi** » 2004-06-29 11:37pm

Both the Shittes and the Kurds were rather abused during the rule of Saddam.

The Kurd however were able to fight back more effectivly due to terran advantages and the no fly zones. The Kurds are also still armed and really wanting to see Saddam shot, I'd give it to them if I was the new Iraqi government.

Jadeite · Post by **Jadeite** » 2004-06-30 12:37am

Iraqi officials insist Saddam and the others will get fair trials. Asked whether justice includes the possibility that Saddam might walk out a free man, perhaps on a legal technicality, al-Bayati said there was "no chance at all."

"The whole world will see this," said al-Bayati, who said he was tortured in Saddam's prisons in the 1970s. "He won't be able to walk free."

Begin the show trial!

frigidmagi · Post by **frigidmagi** » 2004-06-30 12:41am

Begin the show trial!

Just how would you prove him innocent? He's the guilty and there's no way around it.

I wanting more of a show exucution!

Hang him, shot him, whatever I don't care, just do it right so he can't get up afterwards.

darthdavid · Post by **darthdavid** » 2004-06-30 01:50am

frigidmagi wrote:
Begin the show trial!
Just how would you prove him innocent? He's the guilty and there's no way around it.

I wanting more of a show exucution!

Hang him, shot him, whatever I don't care, just do it right so he can't get up afterwards.

So, that would be like cutting off his penis, right?

Jadeite · Post by **Jadeite** » 2004-06-30 02:05am

frigidmagi wrote:
Begin the show trial!
Just how would you prove him innocent? He's the guilty and there's no way around it.

I wanting more of a show exucution!

Hang him, shot him, whatever I don't care, just do it right so he can't get up afterwards.

Of course he's guilty. I just found it amusing with the "fair trial" quote and then the "He won't be able to walk free."

Shaidar Haran · Post by **Shaidar Haran** » 2004-06-30 02:06am

Jadeite wrote:
frigidmagi wrote:
Begin the show trial!
Just how would you prove him innocent? He's the guilty and there's no way around it.

I wanting more of a show exucution!

Hang him, shot him, whatever I don't care, just do it right so he can't get up afterwards.
Of course he's guilty. I just found it amusing with the "fair trial" quote and then the "He won't be able to walk free."

When it's a forgone case like this the only question really is: Regular or Extra Crispy?

Lord Poe · Post by **Lord Poe** » 2004-06-30 02:11am

Isn't it funny that not one of these head hunting kidnappers ever asked for Saddam's release?

Sarevok · Post by **Sarevok** » 2004-06-30 02:24am

Lord Poe wrote:Isn't it funny that not one of these head hunting kidnappers ever asked for Saddam's release?

They are probobly fighting for an Islamic theocracy not Saddam. Since Saddam is fundermentalist he would not support a theocratic regime. Hence the terrorists are not interested in securing Saddams release.

Joe · Post by **Joe** » 2004-06-30 02:31am

Of course not. They will choose some entirely different thug.

Sarevok · Post by **Sarevok** » 2004-06-30 02:34am

evilcat4000 wrote:
Lord Poe wrote:Isn't it funny that not one of these head hunting kidnappers ever asked for Saddam's release?
They are probobly fighting for an Islamic theocracy not Saddam. Since Saddam is fundermentalist he would not support a theocratic regime. Hence the terrorists are not interested in securing Saddams release.

EDIT : Major typo. It should be "Since Saddam is not a fundermentalist".

Sokartawi · Post by **Sokartawi** » 2004-06-30 02:51am

I find it disgusting that a puppet regime put in place by the US is going to have anything to say about Saddam. Let him be in the elections, that's much more fair.

Illuminatus Primus · Post by **Illuminatus Primus** » 2004-06-30 02:57am

Oh please. Like he's actually innocent of anything being he's being accused of.

I hate how people take non-issues and use anything as a weapon to decry the U.S. imperialism and their evil bad corporate puppet evil bad grr bad evil corporateness...

Rogue 9 · Post by **Rogue 9** » 2004-06-30 03:03am

evilcat4000 wrote:
evilcat4000 wrote:
Lord Poe wrote:Isn't it funny that not one of these head hunting kidnappers ever asked for Saddam's release?
They are probobly fighting for an Islamic theocracy not Saddam. Since Saddam is fundermentalist he would not support a theocratic regime. Hence the terrorists are not interested in securing Saddams release.
EDIT : Major typo. It should be "Since Saddam is not a fundermentalist".

I think he's saying that its weird that no one's asked for his release for the purpose of applying a sword to his neck.

Sarevok · Post by **Sarevok** » 2004-06-30 04:04am

Sokartawi wrote:I find it disgusting that a puppet regime put in place by the US is going to have anything to say about Saddam. Let him be in the elections, that's much more fair.

Saddam was an oppresive dicator. He killed and tortured many people. The current Iraqi regime may not be very effective but they are a lot better than Saddam. As a criminal Saddam should be punished rather than being allowed to contest in elections.

Boyish-Tigerlilly · Post by **Boyish-Tigerlilly** » 2004-06-30 04:35am

I find it disgusting that a puppet regime put in place by the US is going to have anything to say about Saddam. Let him be in the elections, that's much more fair.

So youa re saying instead of killing him or putting him away, the people of Iraq should allow him to run for the head of state? WTF!?!?!?! By that logic we should have let Hilter run for Chancellor if we captured him. That's stupid.

Boyish-Tigerlilly · Post by **Boyish-Tigerlilly** » 2004-06-30 04:36am

There is some things you just don't do. It would be an insult to allow him the privledge to run.

Elfdart · Post by **Elfdart** » 2004-06-30 10:17am

It doesn't matter. Saddam is a dead man. If he doesn't uh, hang himself in his cell

, he'll be handed over to a kangaroo Iraqi court and lynched. Bush and his henchmen can't risk allowing anything resembling a fair trial, because he would be allowed to summon and cross-examine witnesses like the Nuremberg defendants were. Bush isn't about to let his daddy or Rumsfeld, or George Schultz or anyone else take the witness stand in a fair proceeding.

Prosecutor: Mr. Hussein, did you order the use of nerve gas against Kurds in 1988?

Saddam: Are you referring to the gas made from compounds supplied by the US and delivered in helicopters supplied by Uncle Sam and piloted by crews trained in Florida -all with the consent of the Reagan/ Bush administrations?

If Hussein is put in front of any proper court, he'll expose too much dirty laundry.

On the other hand, if he's subjected to swine justice, he'll become a martyr and a hero -the national leader lynched by American Imperialism. Since Bush and his crowd are both crooked and stupid, I think we'll see the latter.

desertjedi · Post by **desertjedi** » 2004-06-30 10:36am

On the other hand, if he's subjected to swine justice, he'll become a martyr and a hero -the national leader lynched by American Imperialism. Since Bush and his crowd are both crooked and stupid, I think we'll see the latter.

Lynched by American imperialism? Puh-leeze! You can blame the Americans all you want, but in the end a majority of the Iraqi people want this man brought to justice whether the Americans or the rest of the world want it or not. I'm not exactly sure who he'll be a martyr too, I guess the ex-baathists or former high level members of his regime since the fundies don't want him. Remember the disgust the rrest of the arab world had for him because he was pulled from some rat hole rather than fighting to the death?

Augustus · Post by **Augustus** » 2004-06-30 10:43am

Elfdart wrote:Prosecutor: Mr. Hussein, did you order the use of nerve gas against Kurds in 1988?

Saddam: Are you referring to the gas made from compounds supplied by the US and delivered in helicopters supplied by Uncle Sam and piloted by crews trained in Florida -all with the consent of the Reagan/ Bush administrations?

And that would have what to do with him gassing Kurdish civilians again? Ohh wait...nothing!

Elfdart wrote:If Hussein is put in front of any proper court, he'll expose too much dirty laundry.

Can you explain in what context an Iraqi court would not be "proper"?

Elfdart wrote:On the other hand, if he's subjected to swine justice, he'll become a martyr and a hero -the national leader lynched by American Imperialism. Since Bush and his crowd are both crooked and stupid, I think we'll see the latter.

If you seriously believe that your mixture is running way too rich. Cut back on the sugar.

HemlockGrey · Post by **HemlockGrey** » 2004-06-30 11:32am

And that would have what to do with him gassing Kurdish civilians again? Ohh wait...nothing!

That whooshing sound you hear is the point. The point is that if Saddam is given a fair trial, he calls George H.W. Bush to the stand and has his lawyer ask him embarrassing questions.