Female Teacher Caught with 14-Year-Old

Arthur_Tuxedo · Post by **Arthur_Tuxedo** » 2004-06-30 08:37pm

Some people you can look at and see there's something not right. I blanched when I read the title of the thread, but when I saw her face, I understood.

Post by **RogueIce** » 2004-06-30 08:49pm

Galvatron wrote:Modeling pics!

God damn, that kid is going to be a God when he gets to high school. Incidently, the Hillsborough County Sheriff's Office charge report: HCSO

Arthur_Tuxedo wrote:Some people you can look at and see there's something not right. I blanched when I read the title of the thread, but when I saw her face, I understood.

How's that exactly?

Solauren · Post by **Solauren** » 2004-06-30 09:06pm

Lucky 14 year old.

I'm sorry, she is hot.

Why didn't I have a teacher like when I was 14?

Post by **Zaia** » 2004-06-30 09:30pm

Arthur_Tuxedo wrote:Some people you can look at and see there's something not right. I blanched when I read the title of the thread, but when I saw her face, I understood.

And what, pray tell, did you see?

Icehawk · Post by **Icehawk** » 2004-06-30 09:44pm

Galvatron wrote:
Modeling pics!

Lucky punk ass shit freshman getting a piece like that.

Plekhanov · Post by **Plekhanov** » 2004-06-30 10:10pm

Vohu Manah wrote:Excellent arguments can be made on both sides of this in an argument over the legality of the relations and abuse of power. However, I don't believe that one's "abuse of power" is subject to criminal action normally (there are exceptions, but this situation isn't one of them). Whether "abuse of power" occurred is irrelevant to a discussion of her criminal charges, she being a teacher accused of having an "improper" relationship with a student (who is a minor). Even if she wasn't a teacher, or he not her student, it would still be an allegation of lewd and lascivious battery. Any "abuse of power" that may or may not have taken place seems to have no effect on the charges against her.

I agree with you on the legal aspects of the case but think you are a little off on the “Abuse of power” thing whilst it may well have little legal meaning but it certainly does have a moral meaning and is a very important concept within the education system. As jmac and I have pointed out teachers and other staff within the education system are in a position of influence, trust and authority they are supposed to be looking after the welfare of those in their charge, sex can have no place in such a relationship.

Ace Pace wrote: Excuse me, but there are several 14 year old members here, I don't notice us being crazy(outside of the SDN norm), or in anyway incapable of rational thought.

14 year olds are by no means universally “crazy” especially not within the context of a bb like sd.net however back in the real world when confronted with people they find sexually attractive they often do get a little “crazy” I know I did.

Alyrium Denryle wrote:Personally I thnk that a teachr fucking her student is unethical(from a teachng standpoint) sick(ick factor) and just a bit morally wrong.

HOWEVER, no harm was done to a 14 year old. Hell, the kid ejoyed the sex, and has bragging rights for the rest of his life. In fact, he probably lost his virginity to this teacher who is presumably experienced and rather attractive, and it will probably be the best lay he will get in years....

Now I classify the teacher as a pedophile, but in this case her "victim" was not actually harmed.

I agree with you that what she did being ethically and morally wrong, I probably wouldn’t call her a paedophile but I’m not to concerned about that.
What I’d like to know is how do you know “no harm was done to a 14 year old”? How do you know he isn’t desperately in love with her and is now devastated that his testimony will probably send her to jail? How do you know that it was just a “lay” to him?

Arthur_Tuxedo wrote:Some people you can look at and see there's something not right. I blanched when I read the title of the thread, but when I saw her face, I understood.

Are you psychic or something? How does this looking at “some people” and seeing that “there's something not right.” thing work?

Trytostaydead · Post by **Trytostaydead** » 2004-06-30 11:47pm

Well, at least this isn't as widespread as say in Japan or Korea where teacher/student relationships are pretty common and widespread.

Lord Poe · Post by **Lord Poe** » 2004-06-30 11:50pm

Rogue 9 wrote:People have been skirting the issue by focusing on me, so let's have it. Do you or do you not believe that it is okay for a female teacher to take advantage of her male students like this?

Nope. But that's not what I was arguing.

Also if yes, would it make a difference if the girl was infertile (something that Poe blustered his way around without answering, I'll note)?

Excuse me, repressed little asshole. Just because you don't want to acknowledge the FACT that in society, a guy banging as much pussy as he can get his hands on is regarded as a cocksman, while a girl hopping on every pole that will have her is regarded as a dirty slut, doesn't make it any less true. So fuck off, bitch.

Arthur_Tuxedo · Post by **Arthur_Tuxedo** » 2004-07-01 12:02am

Well, she just looks like she's confused and insecure, but not insecure in the same way as a normal person, the kind of insecure where a person can do some really weird and aberrant things. It's the same look I've seen on certain goth chicks. Not the ones that were doing it to be cool, but the ones who looked like they could be dangerous. I'm sorry if I can't give a very good explanation, but I've seen that look before, and healthy people don't wear that expression.

Rogue 9 · Post by **Rogue 9** » 2004-07-01 12:03am

Excuse me, repressed little asshole. Just because you don't want to acknowledge the FACT that in society, a guy banging as much pussy as he can get his hands on is regarded as a cocksman, while a girl hopping on every pole that will have her is regarded as a dirty slut, doesn't make it any less true.

But that's not what you said when you said this was less problematic. The reason you gave for this being less serious than a male teacher banging a girl was that the boy can't get pregnant. You're moving the goal posts.

Crown · Post by **Crown** » 2004-07-01 12:08am

Shit. That is one fine teacher piece of ass. And as a former horny school boy to another; this kid will not be traumatised on anywhere near the same level of say if it was a 14 year old girl and a 23 year old teacher.

Galvatron · Post by **Galvatron** » 2004-07-01 12:12am

Here's the question: if this girl wasn't the boy's teacher, would everyone still be outraged?

Plekhanov · Post by **Plekhanov** » 2004-07-01 12:14am

Lord Poe wrote:
Rogue 9 wrote:People have been skirting the issue by focusing on me, so let's have it. Do you or do you not believe that it is okay for a female teacher to take advantage of her male students like this?

Nope. But that's not what I was arguing

Well it sure sounded like that’s what you were arguing if you indeed weren’t what exactly were you arguing?

Also if yes, would it make a difference if the girl was infertile (something that Poe blustered his way around without answering, I'll note)?
Excuse me, repressed little asshole. Just because you don't want to acknowledge the FACT that in society, a guy banging as much pussy as he can get his hands on is regarded as a cocksman, while a girl hopping on every pole that will have her is regarded as a dirty slut, doesn't make it any less true. So fuck off, bitch.

So what? We all know that there’s a double standard in western society about the whole stud/slut thing but what the hell has that got to do with a teacher taking advantage of his/her students?

The important issues here are abuse of trust and authority and taking advantage of adolescents, sexual bragging rights and reputations are irrelevant.

Post by **Zaia** » 2004-07-01 12:15am

Arthur_Tuxedo wrote:Well, she just looks like she's confused and insecure, but not insecure in the same way as a normal person, the kind of insecure where a person can do some really weird and aberrant things. It's the same look I've seen on certain goth chicks. Not the ones that were doing it to be cool, but the ones who looked like they could be dangerous. I'm sorry if I can't give a very good explanation, but I've seen that look before, and healthy people don't wear that expression.

Out of curiousity, what kind of background do you have that would make you able to determine that from a couple (because I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that you looked at ALL of the photos available of her before leaping to such conclusions) of photographs of her?

BlkbrryTheGreat · Post by **BlkbrryTheGreat** » 2004-07-01 12:18am

The lesbians are gonna give her a tough time in jail.....

Lord Poe · Post by **Lord Poe** » 2004-07-01 12:24am

Rogue 9 wrote:But that's not what you said when you said this was less problematic.

It's wrong from a teacher/student relationship on the teacher's side, yes. A 14 year old kid that gets to bang his hot as fuck teacher? Not a damned thing wrong with that.

The reason you gave for this being less serious than a male teacher banging a girl was that the boy can't get pregnant. You're moving the goal posts.

No, dick. That still holds. If you can't see that, then really, you ARE a repressed little fuck.

Crayz9000 · Post by **Crayz9000** » 2004-07-01 12:27am

BlkbrryTheGreat wrote:The lesbians are gonna give her a tough time in jail.....

At least I'm not the only one thinking that.

Anyway, about boys vs girls, the biggest difference between them is the hormones. Mind you, those can a very radical affect on how you see the world.

Not that I'm arguing this was good, it was certainly against the law.

Lord Poe · Post by **Lord Poe** » 2004-07-01 12:27am

Plekhanov wrote:Well it sure sounded like that’s what you were arguing if you indeed weren’t what exactly were you arguing?

That there's nothing wrong with a 14 year old boy getting a slice of a piece of ass teacher. That hasn't changed.

So what? We all know that there’s a double standard in western society about the whole stud/slut thing but what the hell has that got to do with a teacher taking advantage of his/her students?

Uh, that's EXACTLY the reason, dipshit.

The important issues here are abuse of trust and authority and taking advantage of adolescents, sexual bragging rights and reputations are irrelevant.

Only if you want to claim the moral high ground in favor of real life.

Plekhanov · Post by **Plekhanov** » 2004-07-01 12:30am

Crown wrote:Shit. That is one fine teacher piece of ass. And as a former horny school boy to another; this kid will not be traumatised on anywhere near the same level of say if it was a 14 year old girl and a 23 year old teacher.

So just because you think you wouldn’t have gotten emotionally involved if it had been you having sex in the back of his cousins car you can definitively state that this boy is unaffected? Bullshit your anecdotal evidence proves nothing, believe it or not all 14 year old boys feel like you did, you have absolutely no way of knowing how this particular kid feels.

Sure the average boy may be less effected by a case like this than the average girl but this isn’t an average boy he is an individual who may well be deeply in love with the teacher in question.

Galvatron wrote:Here's the question: if this girl wasn't the boy's teacher, would everyone still be outraged?

Nowhere near as outraged it still wouldn’t be right but the teacher’s abuse of her position is a big issue for me.

Plekhanov · Post by **Plekhanov** » 2004-07-01 12:35am

Lord Poe wrote:
Rogue 9 wrote:The reason you gave for this being less serious than a male teacher banging a girl was that the boy can't get pregnant. You're moving the goal posts.
No, dick. That still holds. If you can't see that, then really, you ARE a repressed little fuck.

If the risk of pregnancy is such an important issue here then answer the question you ducked earlier: If a 14 year old girl is infertile is she fair game for male teachers?

Galvatron · Post by **Galvatron** » 2004-07-01 12:37am

I have the Van Halen attitude when it comes to this story.

Lord Poe · Post by **Lord Poe** » 2004-07-01 12:45am

Plekhanov wrote:If the risk of pregnancy is such an important issue here then answer the question you ducked earlier: If a 14 year old girl is infertile is she fair game for male teachers?

I didn't "duck" this question. It's as stupid now as it was yesterday. And I've answered it three times now.

Plekhanov · Post by **Plekhanov** » 2004-07-01 12:54am

Lord Poe wrote:
Plekhanov wrote:If the risk of pregnancy is such an important issue here then answer the question you ducked earlier: If a 14 year old girl is infertile is she fair game for male teachers?
I didn't "duck" this question. It's as stupid now as it was yesterday. And I've answered it three times now.

You’ve repeatedly stated that girls fertility is an important issue so long as nobody can get pregnant it’s ok for a teacher to fuck an infertile school girl right?

Saying it’s a stupid question isn’t an answer. Please explain why it is a stupid question.

Crown · Post by **Crown** » 2004-07-01 12:58am

Plekhanov wrote:
Crown wrote:Shit. That is one fine teacher piece of ass. And as a former horny school boy to another; this kid will not be traumatised on anywhere near the same level of say if it was a 14 year old girl and a 23 year old teacher.
So just because you think you wouldn’t have gotten emotionally involved if it had been you having sex in the back of his cousins car you can definitively state that this boy is unaffected? Bullshit your anecdotal evidence proves nothing, believe it or not all 14 year old boys feel like you did, you have absolutely no way of knowing how this particular kid feels.

That is a nice little strawman you built up there, do you require help blowing it down?

Plekhanov wrote:Sure the average boy may be less effected by a case like this than the average girl but this isn’t an average boy he is an individual who may well be deeply in love with the teacher in question.

Well gee jackass, wonder what I said? Oh yeah; "this kid will not be traumatised on anywhere near the same level of say if it was a 14 year old girl and a 23 year old teacher"

Where was I discussing love? Where was I discussing 'emotional attachement'? Oi, dick wad, where was I discussing any of the red herrings you through in your 'rebuttle'?

How about staying on topic and admitting that the (in this case) there is a lower probability of him being anywhere near traumatised as say if it were a 14 year old girl and 23 year old male teacher?

Plekhanov · Post by **Plekhanov** » 2004-07-01 01:00am

Lord Poe wrote:
Plekhanov wrote:Well it sure sounded like that’s what you were arguing if you indeed weren’t what exactly were you arguing?
That there's nothing wrong with a 14 year old boy getting a slice of a piece of ass teacher. That hasn't changed.

You truly are a moron are you seriously suggesting that as long as the abusive teacher is “a piece of ass” it’s ok? How the hell would such a law be applied?

So what? We all know that there’s a double standard in western society about the whole stud/slut thing but what the hell has that got to do with a teacher taking advantage of his/her students?
Uh, that's EXACTLY the reason, dipshit.

What you think that the law should be made upon the basis of what names the kids concerned are likely to be called in the playground?

The important issues here are abuse of trust and authority and taking advantage of adolescents, sexual bragging rights and reputations are irrelevant.
Only if you want to claim the moral high ground in favor of real life.

No it’s you who’s choosing your adolescent sexual fantasies over real life the moral high ground has nothing to do with it.

You are arguing that the teacher in question has done nothing wrong because:

A. You fancy the accused
B. Boys don’t usually get penetrated by women
C. Boys don’t get pregnant
And now
D. Boys don’t get called sluts

Are you really suggesting that law should be made and criminal cases should be decided upon such grounds?

Do you really not understand how moronic those arguments are?