Mayor of Boston Calls Kerry Campaign "Incompetent"

Col. Crackpot · Post by **Col. Crackpot** » 2004-07-01 08:47am

the cracks are starting to show

looks like Tom Menino has about had it. With the looming clusterfuck shutdown of everything between New Hampshire and Rhode Island for the DNC convention, Kerry blowing off the National Mayor's Convention, Old Tom is speaking his mind.

Durandal · Post by **Durandal** » 2004-07-01 09:19am

And he's right. We've heard barely a peep out of Kerry, when she should be firing a full salvo at Bush for his total ineptitude. Instead, he seems to have been affected by the same pussification that's overtaken the entire Democratic party since 9/11.

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2004-07-01 09:29am

The Democratic Party, in its infinite wisdom, chose a candidate for President who originally agreed with Bush on the decision to invade Iraq. This is not an insignificant handicap when attempting to take Bush to task on the consequencs of that decision.

Col. Crackpot · Post by **Col. Crackpot** » 2004-07-01 09:48am

Darth Wong wrote:The Democratic Party, in its infinite wisdom, chose a candidate for President who originally agreed with Bush on the decision to invade Iraq. This is not an insignificant handicap when attempting to take Bush to task on the consequencs of that decision.

he voted for the Patriot act as well. and he has nearly the same views as Bush on Gay Marriage (Civil Unions only) And he is 'personally pro life but won't impose that view on others' whatever the fuck that means.

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2004-07-01 09:55am

Col. Crackpot wrote:
Darth Wong wrote:The Democratic Party, in its infinite wisdom, chose a candidate for President who originally agreed with Bush on the decision to invade Iraq. This is not an insignificant handicap when attempting to take Bush to task on the consequencs of that decision.
he voted for the Patriot act as well. and he has nearly the same views as Bush on Gay Marriage (Civil Unions only).

This was clearly a candidate selection based on "strategy" rather than principle. Their thinking was obviously that an "unpatriotic" position would be too unpopular, so they needed a candidate with good "patriot" credentials in order to steal votes away from Bush's popular war platform (which has since become less popular and more expensive, but hey, that's what happens when you pander).

And he is 'personally pro life but won't impose that view on others' whatever the fuck that means.

Actually, I do know what that means, but he's not expressing it very well (on a scale of 1 to charismatic demagogue, Kerry sits around 2). Freedom of choice means that while I chose not to abort, I don't think everyone should be forced to make the same choice that I did.

Post by **Vympel** » 2004-07-01 10:04am

July/August/September/October/November .... Jeez it doesn't seem that far away now. Maybe the Kerry's campagin "tactic" at this point is to simply hope that Bush loses without any help from them. Or maybe that Michael Moore will do their work for them.

Col. Crackpot · Post by **Col. Crackpot** » 2004-07-01 10:10am

Vympel wrote:July/August/September/October/November .... Jeez it doesn't seem that far away now. Maybe the Kerry's campagin "tactic" at this point is to simply hope that Bush loses without any help from them. Or maybe that Michael Moore will do their work for them.

that plan seems to be as effective a yugoslavian sports car. Bush still has an ever so slight lead on Kerry. That and Nader is pulling 4%.

Durandal · Post by **Durandal** » 2004-07-01 10:16am

Col. Crackpot wrote:
Darth Wong wrote:The Democratic Party, in its infinite wisdom, chose a candidate for President who originally agreed with Bush on the decision to invade Iraq. This is not an insignificant handicap when attempting to take Bush to task on the consequencs of that decision.
he voted for the Patriot act as well. and he has nearly the same views as Bush on Gay Marriage (Civil Unions only) And he is 'personally pro life but won't impose that view on others' whatever the fuck that means.

It could mean a couple different things. It could mean what Mike said, and it could mean that, while he believes that abortion is murder on account of his religion, he won't force that religious view on the nation because of the establishment clause.

RedImperator · Post by **RedImperator** » 2004-07-01 12:39pm

As much as I said Dean was un-electable before the Democratic primaries, I think he'd be doing better right now, presuming he didn't manage to stick his foot in his mouth at some point. He could and would fire on Bush with both barrels, and he's not covered with the slime that accumulates after approximately 15,000 years in the Senate.

Col. Crackpot · Post by **Col. Crackpot** » 2004-07-01 12:43pm

RedImperator wrote:As much as I said Dean was un-electable before the Democratic primaries, I think he'd be doing better right now, presuming he didn't manage to stick his foot in his mouth at some point. He could and would fire on Bush with both barrels, and he's not covered with the slime that accumulates after approximately 15,000 years in the Senate.

Which is precisely why a senator has not won a Presidential election since 1960.... and then only barely.

Glocksman · Post by **Glocksman** » 2004-07-01 12:45pm

RedImperator wrote:As much as I said Dean was un-electable before the Democratic primaries, I think he'd be doing better right now, presuming he didn't manage to stick his foot in his mouth at some point. He could and would fire on Bush with both barrels, and he's not covered with the slime that accumulates after approximately 15,000 years in the Senate.

If Dean would have won the nomination, that would have been my first ever vote for a Democratic presidential candidate in a general election in the 20 years I've been old enough to vote.

As it is, I'm voting for Nader as a protest.

Col. Crackpot · Post by **Col. Crackpot** » 2004-07-01 12:46pm

Glocksman wrote: As it is, I'm voting for Nader as a protest.

Are you on drugs?

Iceberg · Post by **Iceberg** » 2004-07-01 12:47pm

I'm tempted to write in Dean anyway except that I believe that it is not possible to do worse as a president than the one we have right now.

Col. Crackpot · Post by **Col. Crackpot** » 2004-07-01 12:49pm

Iceberg wrote:I'm tempted to write in Dean anyway except that I believe that it is not possible to do worse as a president than the one we have right now.

Jimmy Carter comes to mind, but i digress. I'm writing in Gulliani if that means anything. Maybe enough people will do that to get him to run in '08.

Durandal · Post by **Durandal** » 2004-07-01 01:12pm

Glocksman wrote:
RedImperator wrote:As much as I said Dean was un-electable before the Democratic primaries, I think he'd be doing better right now, presuming he didn't manage to stick his foot in his mouth at some point. He could and would fire on Bush with both barrels, and he's not covered with the slime that accumulates after approximately 15,000 years in the Senate.

If Dean would have won the nomination, that would have been my first ever vote for a Democratic presidential candidate in a general election in the 20 years I've been old enough to vote.

As it is, I'm voting for Nader as a protest.

Could you at least throw your vote away to someone who's not quite so annoying and stupid?

Post by **Mr Bean** » 2004-07-01 01:26pm

Could you at least throw your vote away to someone who's not quite so annoying and stupid?

How about the Governator? At least you'll be sure you won't accidently electect someone into office

Stravo · Post by **Stravo** » 2004-07-01 01:34pm

Kerry was obviously a safe choice and a safe choice can't go railing against the president's views. Idiots. Has anyone seen Gore lately? The guy is lambasting Bush. Too bad he showed 0% charisma and drive during his turn at the election.

Post by **Zaia** » 2004-07-01 01:49pm

Stravo wrote: Has anyone seen Gore lately? The guy is lambasting Bush.

I know. Makes me glad that I voted for him last time.

SirNitram · Post by **SirNitram** » 2004-07-01 01:51pm

'Look at Kerry, he's so electable!'

Gods, what a load of morons. As predicted in the Mage household, Kerry sucks ass and proves it on a grand scale. The only question remaining is whether he'll suck more ass than Bush.

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2004-07-01 01:51pm

The difference between the fiery 2004 Gore and the wooden 2000 Gore can be summed up in the single line: "when you play only to avoid failure, you aren't playing to win".

Durandal · Post by **Durandal** » 2004-07-01 01:56pm

Stravo wrote:Kerry was obviously a safe choice and a safe choice can't go railing against the president's views. Idiots. Has anyone seen Gore lately? The guy is lambasting Bush. Too bad he showed 0% charisma and drive during his turn at the election.

No shit. Where was 2004 Gore in 2000?

Col. Crackpot · Post by **Col. Crackpot** » 2004-07-01 02:02pm

Durandal wrote:
Stravo wrote:Kerry was obviously a safe choice and a safe choice can't go railing against the president's views. Idiots. Has anyone seen Gore lately? The guy is lambasting Bush. Too bad he showed 0% charisma and drive during his turn at the election.
No shit. Where was 2004 Gore in 2000?

2000 Gore was clearly replaced with a GoreBot.

Master of Ossus · Post by **Master of Ossus** » 2004-07-01 02:45pm

Darth Wong wrote: Actually, I do know what that means, but he's not expressing it very well (on a scale of 1 to charismatic demagogue, Kerry sits around 2). Freedom of choice means that while I chose not to abort, I don't think everyone should be forced to make the same choice that I did.

I also know what that means, but that stance is virtually meaningless for men, who cannot possibly be put in such a position in the first place.

Master of Ossus · Post by **Master of Ossus** » 2004-07-01 02:47pm

Glocksman wrote:As it is, I'm voting for Nader as a protest.

Post by **Alyrium Denryle** » 2004-07-01 02:58pm

Col. Crackpot wrote:
Glocksman wrote: As it is, I'm voting for Nader as a protest.
Are you on drugs?

I think he is, at least vote for someone who wont completely destry the economy and turn the US into a panzy hippie clusterfuck.

Which is why I will be voting for Badnarik.