Daedalus McKendral

[Darth Wong]

Ho hum, another E-mail, another waste of time.

Name: Daedalus McKendral
E-Mail: xentriusbyrin@hotmail.com
Comments: First off, I've already sent you an email, though under which name I am uncertain, so starting off with the usual pleasantries is pointless.

Secondly, you make a couple mis-assumptions, if you will.

1. You make the assumption that the Empire has "discovered all physics" and that any technology that it does not use is pointless. This doesn't make sense as the Empire hadn't even discovered how to make the Vong's blackhole weapons despite their superiority to turbolasers and large-scale superweapons.

2. You assume that since the half-working non-successful phase cloak created by the Romulans is susceptible to air and gravity that the fully working, successful phase cloak created by the Federation is susceptible. Now does a half-working, non successful EVA suit protect you in a vaccuum? No, you die because it wasn't completed nor successful and had a hole in it that all your air escaped through. If a normal cloaking device is damaged does it successfully cloak the entire ship? No, it becomes a waste of power and you get taken down because you don't have shields up. Now in the case of the Romulan phase cloak, whenever you passed through solid matter it left an easily traceable residual shadow, if you will, that even a tricorder could detect. The Romulan's sensors would have easily picked up the movement of the Enterprise through the Asteroid if indeed their phase cloaks were exactly the same. If you saw a ship-sized anomally moving through solid matter that wasn't there before when you know that there is a ship inside the asteroid then wouldn't you, being a highly trained Romulan sensor reader, suspect something was a little off? The Romulan's had no clue about what was happening, they were surprised when the Enterprise had decloaked outside of the asteroid.

Now to your "Battles" section.

1. Your rules contradict themselves, you state first that the otherside can know about their technology but cannot possess it yet you give the Empire Transport Inhibitors which, according to Insurrection, is a Federation Technology. Now that would mean that they can in no way have access to it. Which means that while your officer wouldn't be surprised by Transporter Technology he cannot stop it.

2. You allow for intel of the othersides technology which would mean in your Battle of AR-558, both the Jem'Hadar and Federation would be aware of your "Cavalier attitude" towards nerve gas and equip their people appropriately meaning that your attack becomes a conventional one.

3. You don't have access to Klingon Shield Technology which means that you will never develop an immunity to Breen Energy Dampers. Any battle involving the Empire and the Breen would end in the Empire losing to power failure on all ships. Also this makes the Dominion the new power in both Galaxies.

With that I bid you adieu.

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Personally, I don't even feel like bothering to answer this guy. It's just not worth my time. But any of you who feel like answering his wank can feel free to do so and then E-mail him to let him know.

[Ghost Rider]

Wow...this one doesn't even try.

I'll just offer a pointers bit because there are more ardent people.

1. Phase Cloak...they have to breathe and have gravity affect them somehow, course he's doesn't want to realize this. Regardless of half assed Romulan or fully working Federation.

2. Transporter inhibitors...yes, because when heavy metals can block transporters....exclusive tech

3. Gas attack...doesn't want to say HOW they are equip their troops given they haven't shown real hazard suits.

4. Not touching the Breen Energy dampners....because honestly if he's not grasping the gulf distance.

Amazed he didn't harp about Supreme Borg Adaption Tech!!!!...seriously

[Techno_Union]

Name: Daedalus McKendral
E-Mail: xentriusbyrin@hotmail.com
Comments: First off, I've already sent you an email, though under which name I am uncertain, so starting off with the usual pleasantries is pointless.

Secondly, you make a couple mis-assumptions, if you will.

1. You make the assumption that the Empire has "discovered all physics" and that any technology that it does not use is pointless. This doesn't make sense as the Empire hadn't even discovered how to make the Vong's blackhole weapons despite their superiority to turbolasers and large-scale superweapons.

Where has Wong said or assumed this? If I'm not mistaken, doesn't the Empire use blackholes to power the World Devastators?

Now to your "Battles" section.

1. Your rules contradict themselves, you state first that the otherside can know about their technology but cannot possess it yet you give the Empire Transport Inhibitors which, according to Insurrection, is a Federation Technology. Now that would mean that they can in no way have access to it. Which means that while your officer wouldn't be surprised by Transporter Technology he cannot stop it.

Not ST inhibitors, there are multiple episodes when transporters are blocked by natural substances, take Insurrection for example.

3. You don't have access to Klingon Shield Technology which means that you will never develop an immunity to Breen Energy Dampers. Any battle involving the Empire and the Breen would end in the Empire losing to power failure on all ships. Also this makes the Dominion the new power in both Galaxies.

Proof that Breen dampeners would even have an effect on an ISD or disable imperial shields. The Breen, even with this "advatage" you give them, are still in danger of the turbolasers and ion cannons. Breen cannot magically adapt to ion cannons. Also, since ion cannons, from vicual inspection, seem more powerful then Breen dampeners, Imperial crews would have no problem even repairing damaged systems raher quickly; a top repair from an heavy ion cannon is something like 7 mins to get comm back up (if I remember Darksaber correctly).

Another thing about the Breen being the new power in both galaxies ( ), we saw a Cardassian Galor take out a Breen ship rather easily in "All Good Things", but in another TNG episode we see a Galaor fire on the Enterprise doing only some damage to their warp nacelle, now seeing as though a VSD, ISD, ect. can take out a Galaxy Class pretty quickly, it leads to one conclusion... the Breen get stomped harder then the Federation for even thinking they could damage an Imperial ship. ISD>Galaxy class>Galor>Breen ship

[Luzifer's right hand]

I thought the Breen energy damperners did not work on one of the Klingion ships because of the configuration of the reactor/energy systems.
This suggests that the weapon is designed to damage some special ST-technology and not an universal energy dampener.
The Klingons copied this configuration the other powers had to develope another kind of protection.
I remember nothing about special klingon shields.

please correct me if i am wrong.

[The Nomad]

1. You make the assumption that the Empire has "discovered all physics" and that any technology that it does not use is pointless. This doesn't make sense as the Empire hadn't even discovered how to make the Vong's blackhole weapons despite their superiority to turbolasers and large-scale superweapons.

Knowing all the principles by which the Universe works doesn't mean you've developped every way of applying them.

2. You assume that since the half-working non-successful phase cloak created by the Romulans is susceptible to air and gravity that the fully working, successful phase cloak created by the Federation is susceptible. Now does a half-working, non successful EVA suit protect you in a vaccuum? No, you die because it wasn't completed nor successful and had a hole in it that all your air escaped through. If a normal cloaking device is damaged does it successfully cloak the entire ship? No, it becomes a waste of power and you get taken down because you don't have shields up.

You assume that a property exhibited by a prototype won't be present in the final device without proof whatsoever.

1. Your rules contradict themselves, you state first that the otherside can know about their technology but cannot possess it yet you give the Empire Transport Inhibitors which, according to Insurrection, is a Federation Technology. Now that would mean that they can in no way have access to it. Which means that while your officer wouldn't be surprised by Transporter Technology he cannot stop it.

Even I, today, could block a transporter by standing near a transformer ( TNG "Legacy" ).
Claiming that the Empire couldn't generate electrical fields of similar characteristics to that of those generated by a mundane transformer is ludicrous beyond belief.

2. You allow for intel of the othersides technology which would mean in your Battle of AR-558, both the Jem'Hadar and Federation would be aware of your "Cavalier attitude" towards nerve gas and equip their people appropriately meaning that your attack becomes a conventional one.

If nerve gaz is an option against boarding parties ( TOS "The Seeds of Evil", DS9 "Tacking into the Wind" ), why do we never see Jem'Hadar or redshirts wearing hazard suits when boarding during the Dominion Wars ?

3. You don't have access to Klingon Shield Technology which means that you will never develop an immunity to Breen Energy Dampers. Any battle involving the Empire and the Breen would end in the Empire losing to power failure on all ships. Also this makes the Dominion the new power in both Galaxies.

*Breen dampening weapons target specific vulnerabilities of ST ship's power grids. There is no indication that such a weakness will be present in SW ships.
*Breen ships must be under a few km to fire their weapons. A single LTL shot will probably be enough to finish them off before they can fire.
*You assume that just because the BDW can absorb the power output of AQ/BQ civilizations' starships, they can somehow do the same to ships that are million times more powerful on a ton-to-ton basis ?

[Gil Hamilton]

On transporters, Transport Inhibitors may be a federation device, but not all things that inhibit transporters are. These include unusual rocks, non-ionizing radiation, Evil Black Goop, tractor beams, shields, dense metalsm, unusual but non-dangerous magnetic fields, the ships own holodeck when it breaks down and holds crewmembers hostage, et cetera. There is no reason to think that transporters couldn't be blocked by Imperials, especially with their heavy ECM.

On the Breen weapon thing, I'd say that it probably wouldn't effect Imperial ships at all. The Breen Energy Dampener appears to be highly specialized to target specific technology and so much so that a Klingon ship became immune to the effects of the weapon accidently by configuring the tech on their ship a different way. It couldn't have been that wildly different in setting than normal, which means that the Breen weapon only has a narrow window on effecting a specific technology. A silver bullet if you will. I fail to see how that would make them dangerous to ships that use radically different technology. It's like saying that a silver stake will kill a werewolf, so therefore it will slay Godzilla.

[Stravo]

On the Breen dampening weapon do we HAVE to point out that this weapon is designed specifically to target anti matter powered energy grids and even then as someone above me pointed out a slight reconfiguation of the power grid was enough to render the dameoning effect useless. DO you seriuosly expect us to believe that a weapon that narrowly tailored would effect a power source so much greater and exotic like the hypermatter reactors of an Imperial warship??

Stop it, please, you moron.

[DaveJB]

On another note, he's using "Win 9x 4.90", which is Windows ME!

Are there ANY legitimate reasons for running ME? Even if his computer is too weak to handle 2K or XP, why the heck would he choose ME over 98SE? At least 98SE doesn't have a fundamentally (not to mention irreperably) broken memory manager!

[Tribun]

Comments: First off, I've already sent you an email, though under which name I am uncertain, so starting off with the usual pleasantries is pointless.

Gee, what a nice guy. I wonder if he watches his asshole every morning in the mirror.

1. You make the assumption that the Empire has "discovered all physics" and that any technology that it does not use is pointless. This doesn't make sense as the Empire hadn't even discovered how to make the Vong's blackhole weapons despite their superiority to turbolasers and large-scale superweapons.

1.Mike never said that.
2.Knowing all theory doesn't mean you also know how to use it for practical useage.
3.The Emire does use artifactial black holes. As power supply for the World Devastators as seen in "Dark Empire".


Will somebody shoot him down, or can we bring him to debate here to take him apart?

[Darth Servo]

Mostly a nitpick storm. Go ahead and write back just to see he'll respond again. I could use some entertainment.

[KhyronTheBackstabber]

On another note, he's using "Win 9x 4.90", which is Windows ME!

Are there ANY legitimate reasons for running ME? Even if his computer is too weak to handle 2K or XP, why the heck would he choose ME over 98SE? At least 98SE doesn't have a fundamentally (not to mention irreperably) broken memory manager!

Probably because it came installed on his computer, and he's too lazy to upgrade to something better...like me.

[Rightous Fist Of Heaven]

Another source of entertainment if anyone's interested is here
http://www. trekbbs .com/threads/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=UBB8&Number=2884856&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=7&fpart=2 (remove spaces to make the link work)

Decided to drop by at the lair of some of the biggest Trekkie morons there still are and look what i found. I made a post with the regular stuff and i allready thought that no-one was up to the challenge but then our ol' bud Kazeite jumped on the ball and responded with a series of arguments copied from Baldstars site. Pretty usual stuff, he naturally uses the Parallel Universe claim but does not seem to disagree that the ICS's and EU are part of the continuity of Star Wars (he is a fucking idiot, what could you expect).

Anyways, end shameless bash-fest advertising

In regards to this fellow, these arguments he puts up are simply so old and so full of shit that wasting time on him is pointless.

[Jalinth]

On transporters, Transport Inhibitors may be a federation device, but not all things that inhibit transporters are. These include unusual rocks, non-ionizing radiation, Evil Black Goop, tractor beams, shields, dense metalsm, unusual but non-dangerous magnetic fields, the ships own holodeck when it breaks down and holds crewmembers hostage, et cetera. There is no reason to think that transporters couldn't be blocked by Imperials, especially with their heavy ECM.

Given that (in the DS attack), SW level electronic scanners became virtually useless due to the heavy ECM, I can't imagine what they'd do to people/things in a touchy transporter stream.

[Sarevok]

On another note, he's using "Win 9x 4.90", which is Windows ME!

Are there ANY legitimate reasons for running ME? Even if his computer is too weak to handle 2K or XP, why the heck would he choose ME over 98SE? At least 98SE doesn't have a fundamentally (not to mention irreperably) broken memory manager!

ME is the worst OS ever. It suffers from tremdous system rot. When it first came out I mistakenly installed it on my uncles computer believing it would be a good OS. But instead of being a good OS I found it to be terrible. It was a slow and unstable operating system. When I would try to play the game Mechwarrior 3 I would get bad graphics and slow gameplay. Sometimes the game would crash altogather !

[Howedar]

I would ask this fellow if he thinks the Breen weapons are able to functionally shut down a power source of any magnitude or nature, to the point that the Breen could fire on Sol and make it stop undergoing fusion. Probably.

I'd also point out that even the lowly Rebellion has access to weapons vastly superior to the Breen weapons (IE the ion cannon at Hoth), yet they are by no means the dominate power in the galaxy.

[Mange]

Name: Daedalus McKendral
E-Mail: xentriusbyrin@hotmail.com
Comments: First off, I've already sent you an email, though under which name I am uncertain, so starting off with the usual pleasantries is pointless.

Why not simply say "I lack the guts to make a stand"? The rest of his e-mail makes no sense at all. Don't bother with this one.