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Alyeska wrote:
Lord Revan wrote:like I said a biased source, the most biased source apart from trekkie fantasy
Not all Trekkie fantasy includes handicapping Star Wars. Please take that into account.
I have taken that into account, but you must admit that some trekkie fantasies have a strong anti-SW bias.
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Lord Revan wrote:
Alyeska wrote:
Lord Revan wrote:like I said a biased source, the most biased source apart from trekkie fantasy
Not all Trekkie fantasy includes handicapping Star Wars. Please take that into account.
I have taken that into account, but you must admit that some trekkie fantasies have a strong anti-SW bias.
Only the fantasies of some trekkies whom are a little consumed by the VS debate. :wink:
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Alyeska wrote:
Lord Revan wrote:
Alyeska wrote: Not all Trekkie fantasy includes handicapping Star Wars. Please take that into account.
I have taken that into account, but you must admit that some trekkie fantasies have a strong anti-SW bias.
Only the fantasies of some trekkies whom are a little consumed by the VS debate. :wink:
I know, like Darkstar for example
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jegs2 wrote:Number of sources appear to be in conflict (or strangely silent) about the maximum ranges of turbolasers (or ion cannons) on Imperial capital ships. One of Trek's greatest arguments is range. Know I've heard of great TL ranges coming from EU, but am looking for something definitive on weapons ranges. My assumption is that they can fire at long range, but due to massive jamming and "carrier-style" fighting in the Star Wars movies, we never see them fire at other than relatively short range.
I found some good information in an old thread that covers this subject pretty well -

http://bbs.stardestroyer.net/viewtopic. ... c&start=75

Look towards the bottom of the page for the comments on Turbo Laser ranges.
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This seems to be the most convincing evidence that TLs are capable of long-range fire:
Ref: http://h4h.com/louis/weap1.html#ranges - W. Poe

"There is a reference to "space units" as a measure of range from the "Behind The Magic" CD. The BTM CD says that turbolasers have a max range of 75 space units, compared to the Death Star's 100-space-unit range. The SWTJ gives the max DS range as 47,060,000km, so one space unit (using both of these sources)=470,600km."
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jegs2 wrote:This seems to be the most convincing evidence that TLs are capable of long-range fire:
Ref: http://h4h.com/louis/weap1.html#ranges - W. Poe

"There is a reference to "space units" as a measure of range from the "Behind The Magic" CD. The BTM CD says that turbolasers have a max range of 75 space units, compared to the Death Star's 100-space-unit range. The SWTJ gives the max DS range as 47,060,000km, so one space unit (using both of these sources)=470,600km."
Glad to help.

What I found intriguing about that old thread was the discussion of irreversabilities and energy dissipation. The TL bolt has to be losing energy all over the electromagnetic spectrum while its in flight.
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Alyeska wrote:FYI the weapon from Rebel Dream Rebel Stand was not stated as being a Turbo Laser. Wedge specificaly said that a "Laser Battery" was fired. Now some people have assumed this to be a Turbo Laser and HDS claims to have talked to Allston about the example and that the TL was enlongated and fired at light speed (less intensity, more speed).
Wrong, it was simply less intensity, longer firing time, intensity was not related to the speed at all, infact the speed was not anomalous.


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Augustus wrote: Glad to help.

What I found intriguing about that old thread was the discussion of irreversabilities and energy dissipation. The TL bolt has to be losing energy all over the electromagnetic spectrum while its in flight.
It's even more interesting when you consider Zim is flat out wrong.

If the temperature differential was that great, the observed particles would be glowing white hot, instead of fading to green afterglow. It would change shadows cast by other objects as the shot passed and more importantly, shots like those from the AT-ATs and the Nantex fighters would react horribly with the atmosphere. Also, the high random kinetic energy would cauise incredible beam spread, though as we see from compound weapons, collisions are convienently at a point where they are elastic in nature and the beam sticks together. If there was that much thermal energy, it should have the particles moving at velocities far too fast for that to occur. So his suppositions are contradicted by the canon. We see them lose energy at a rate of a few dozen watts, no more.

A better explanation is already found in the AOTC ICS. It is said that "spin" is important to range. If the energy of a TL shot is nonthermal in nature, and there was a spin or shear to the particles, then the high energy content is not an issue. This is likely the interpratation Dr. Saxton intended, as it is mentioned on his site (miscelaneous technicalities page).
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