The Big One

Howedar · Post by **Howedar** » 2004-06-26 01:21am

MKSheppard · Post by **MKSheppard** » 2004-07-02 03:40pm

Einhander Sn0m4n · Post by **Einhander Sn0m4n** » 2004-07-03 06:45pm

Hey Shep, can you give me TGG? I read TBO while I was gone and I loved it. Me Want More.

Crusade 1 is pretty kewl too. Nice and bloody.

MKSheppard · Post by **MKSheppard** » 2004-07-05 04:23pm

Crusade Six

phongn · Post by **phongn** » 2004-07-05 11:33pm

Bahh, computer tech is 5-6 years behind ours or so but the Internet is on schedule.

EDIT: Updated the main listing.

Xenophobe3691 · Post by **Xenophobe3691** » 2004-07-06 01:22am

Is it just me, or does the guy who wrote The Big One absolutely hate Democrats?

MKSheppard · Post by **MKSheppard** » 2004-07-06 01:53am

Xenophobe3691 wrote:Is it just me, or does the guy who wrote The Big One absolutely hate Democrats?

WOW, YOU'RE ONLY DISCOVERING THIS NOW?

What a shocking revelation.

RedImperator · Post by **RedImperator** » 2004-07-06 07:00am

Xenophobe3691 wrote:Is it just me, or does the guy who wrote The Big One absolutely hate Democrats?

He hates Kennedy Democrats, and he obviously loathes Robert McNamara with all his heart and soul, but considering that LBJ is coming off as a fairly positive character, I wouldn't say he hates all Democrats.

phongn · Post by **phongn** » 2004-07-06 12:06pm

RedImperator wrote:He hates Kennedy Democrats, and he obviously loathes Robert McNamara with all his heart and soul, but considering that LBJ is coming off as a fairly positive character, I wouldn't say he hates all Democrats.

I don't think he hates Kennedy Democrats either; certainly he doesn't seem to like them or their policies but actual hatred is reserved for Nazis.

EDIT: As for RSM, apparently the incident at the YB-70 rollout is based on his real behavior at the second XB-70 rollout; his attempt to cancel the F-112, the B-70 and kill ARADCOM to form the ROAD divisions apparently was historical as well.

Xenophobe3691 · Post by **Xenophobe3691** » 2004-07-06 12:54pm

MKSheppard wrote:
Xenophobe3691 wrote:Is it just me, or does the guy who wrote The Big One absolutely hate Democrats?
WOW, YOU'RE ONLY DISCOVERING THIS NOW?

What a shocking revelation.

Hey, it's my first time reading this story. Good story, but he needs to get the anger monkeys off his typewriter and back into their cages where they belong.

Einhander Sn0m4n · Post by **Einhander Sn0m4n** » 2004-07-06 12:57pm

Xenophobe3691 wrote:
MKSheppard wrote:
Xenophobe3691 wrote:Is it just me, or does the guy who wrote The Big One absolutely hate Democrats?
WOW, YOU'RE ONLY DISCOVERING THIS NOW?

What a shocking revelation.
Hey, it's my first time reading this story. Good story, but he needs to get the anger monkeys off his typewriter and back into their cages where they belong.

Actually I think it's funny as shit.

Xenophobe3691 · Post by **Xenophobe3691** » 2004-07-06 01:11pm

Einhander Sn0m4n wrote:
Xenophobe3691 wrote: Hey, it's my first time reading this story. Good story, but he needs to get the anger monkeys off his typewriter and back into their cages where they belong.
Actually I think it's funny as shit.

So do I, I can't imagine anyone ever using the word "Democrat" as a curse word...I'll try it, though, and probably get bitchslapped by my whole family...

phongn · Post by **phongn** » 2004-07-06 01:12pm

Xenophobe3691 wrote:So do I, I can't imagine anyone ever using the word "Democrat" as a curse word...I'll try it, though, and probably get bitchslapped by my whole family...

The person in question who its based off of actually does have that great dislike of Democrats; its more or less in character.

RedImperator · Post by **RedImperator** » 2004-07-06 03:51pm

phongn wrote:
RedImperator wrote:He hates Kennedy Democrats, and he obviously loathes Robert McNamara with all his heart and soul, but considering that LBJ is coming off as a fairly positive character, I wouldn't say he hates all Democrats.
I don't think he hates Kennedy Democrats either; certainly he doesn't seem to like them or their policies but actual hatred is reserved for Nazis.

EDIT: As for RSM, apparently the incident at the YB-70 rollout is based on his real behavior at the second XB-70 rollout; his attempt to cancel the F-112, the B-70 and kill ARADCOM to form the ROAD divisions apparently was historical as well.

Well, hate is relative. And I do think his feelings for McNamara go well beyond dislike. If you read some of what he writes in the commentary threads, contempt virtually boils off every post McNamara is mentioned.

MKSheppard · Post by **MKSheppard** » 2004-07-06 11:13pm

RedImperator wrote:And I do think his feelings for McNamara go well beyond dislike. If you read some of what he writes in the commentary threads, contempt virtually boils off every post McNamara is mentioned.

With damn good reason.

Seer Stuart wrote: This really is how the defense budget process works. The Secretary of Defense prepares a series of budget requests (usually but not always based on presentations from the Service chiefs) and sends it to the House and Senate. The House and Senate then make their own changes (sometimes minor, sometimes drastic) to the budget request. This results in two defense budgets, a House version and a Senate version. Traditionally (again, not always) the House tends to reflect the wishes of the Secretary of Defense more closely than the Senate.

The two defense budgets then go to Conference where they are compared and the discrepancies between them resolved. This is usually where the Senate persuades the House that SecDefs ideas are not good. There's usually compromise on most things; its very, very rare for Conferrence to be a slugging match. Once Conference has produced its defense budget it goes to the President for signature. The President can either sign off on it as a whole or veto it as a whole.

The stunt McNamara tries to pull in this section is factually correct - he really did do this. He wanted the F-12B and B-70 cancelled and his defense budget reflected that. The Senate put the money in and Conference approved the decision. Kennedy signed the budget and McNamara instantly refused to release the B-70 and F-12B funding, killing both programs. He used the same technique to gut the US air defense system.

It can't be done now, the law's been changed.

phongn · Post by **phongn** » 2004-07-06 11:21pm

Fortunately for them, his author-avatar has a very skilled assistant

phongn · Post by **phongn** » 2004-07-07 05:44pm

1965-6 OOB

EDIT: Ouch. Apparently even after sustaining massive losses in Russia (equal to our timeline's European and Pacific losses for the US Army combined, probably exlusive of USAAF losses) the sacrifices of the US Army in the TBOverse have more or less been forgotten by the public at large

phongn · Post by **phongn** » 2004-07-16 08:25pm

Crusade 7

Col. Crackpot · Post by **Col. Crackpot** » 2004-07-19 11:27am

Crusade 8

Crusade 9

goddamn this story is great.

lukexcom · Post by **lukexcom** » 2004-07-19 05:01pm

Un...be....leivable. Stuart writes gold.

Damn, I'm at the point where every day I check to see if Stuart wrote another chapter in his TBO universe. He should think about publishing these one day.

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2004-07-19 09:00pm

lukexcom wrote:Un...be....leivable. Stuart writes gold.

Damn, I'm at the point where every day I check to see if Stuart wrote another chapter in his TBO universe. He should think about publishing these one day.

He already has looked into publishing The Big One. He never said what became of it though. Book publishing can be a slow process so its probuabbly still in some pile waiting to be looked at,.

Thag · Post by **Thag** » 2004-07-19 11:45pm

Am I reading this right? Is Johnson considering taking out Kennedy before the election?

The Duchess of Zeon · Post by **The Duchess of Zeon** » 2004-07-19 11:46pm

Thag wrote:Am I reading this right? Is Johnson considering taking out Kennedy before the election?

No you're not. Nobody gets taken out.

MKSheppard · Post by **MKSheppard** » 2004-07-23 11:56am

New Story in the TBOverse

BlkbrryTheGreat · Post by **BlkbrryTheGreat** » 2004-07-23 08:37pm

The Duchess of Zeon wrote:
Thag wrote:Am I reading this right? Is Johnson considering taking out Kennedy before the election?
No you're not. Nobody gets taken out.

Right, and Ghandi died in an accident.