Which Internet Browser should I use?

2000AD · Post by **2000AD** » 2004-07-06 06:54pm

And another plus: Firefox blocks spyware! Normally after my general browsing i have aroung 8-10 spyware when using IE, but when using Firefox - NONE !

Lt. Dan · Post by **Lt. Dan** » 2004-07-06 06:57pm

2000AD wrote:EDIT: also, since it appears to block pop-ups, how dop i view the pop-ups i want to see, such as PM notices.

I use Mozilla and the PM pop up works fine.

Pu-239 · Post by **Pu-239** » 2004-07-06 06:59pm

Another article:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/ar ... Jun25.html

As for mozilla security, see bugzilla.mozilla.org

Pu-239 · Post by **Pu-239** » 2004-07-06 07:00pm

2000AD wrote:And another plus: Firefox blocks spyware! Normally after my general browsing i have aroung 8-10 spyware when using IE, but when using Firefox - NONE !

It doesn't block spyware, it just doesn't support them (Lacks ActiveX support- though you can add it

).

Vendetta · Post by **Vendetta** » 2004-07-06 07:19pm

Pu-239 wrote: That's what extensions are for. One useful one is the one that lets you edit CSS on the fly and see results immediately. Rather amusing to edit the CSS for microsoft.com (I didn't do that but someone else did for kicks).

As noted, Opera can do this 'out of the box'. You might not be able to edit CSS's dynamically, but you can switch them dynamicaflly without having to piss about installing anything but the program itself.

I have to work eight hours a day fucking about making other people's PC's work, I want mine to do it's shit straight away without me having to press anything more than the 'on' button. Ever. I don't want to piss my life away installing features that should be there anyway.

That's also why I have a Mac.

sketerpot · Post by **sketerpot** » 2004-07-06 07:23pm

2000AD wrote:SO is Mozilla more secure because it doesn't have any of IE's securioty problems? Does it have any problems of it's own?

I don't know. I do know that it doesn't have IE's nasty ActiveX problems, which is a big step forward. It may have security problems, but I sure haven't seen any exploited. I definitely can't say that for IE, which seems to pick up some nasty bit of malware every other day.

EDIT: also, since it appears to block pop-ups, how do i view the pop-ups i want to see, such as PM notices.

You can un-popupblock certain sites. It also allows popups that directly result from clicking on a link, which solves almost all of the cases where you want popups.

Vendetta · Post by **Vendetta** » 2004-07-06 07:32pm

The only thing that works in Mozilla is URL spoofing, and even that's not as transparent as it is in IE.

Opera is similarly immune.

Defiant · Post by **Defiant** » 2004-07-06 07:40pm

I'm using Firefox right now, and I have to say the following statement:

FIREFOX IS THE SHIT!!! I will never use Netscape or IE again!!

Pu-239 · Post by **Pu-239** » 2004-07-06 07:45pm

Vendetta wrote:The only thing that works in Mozilla is URL spoofing, and even that's not as transparent as it is in IE.

Opera is similarly immune.

It's been fixed.

darthdavid · Post by **darthdavid** » 2004-07-06 07:50pm

I love themes. Infact, themes are the best way to get the computer inept to switch. They may not appreciate all the tech advantages but they can appreciate being able to make their browser look like they want it to.

Plekhanov · Post by **Plekhanov** » 2004-07-06 08:06pm

Thanks for all the recommendations I’ll give firefox a try and see how I like it.

Also I forgot to say before but a few of the PCs I look after are pretty low end (400mhz 128mb that kind of thing) is firefox a good browser for hand me down systems?

Grand Admiral Thrawn · Post by **Grand Admiral Thrawn** » 2004-07-06 08:11pm

Yeah it should work pretty well. It's pretty small and doesn't need a lot of proccessing power or memory.

Vendetta · Post by **Vendetta** » 2004-07-06 08:15pm

My old Pentium 166 is happy with Firefox. It's still faster than IE.

phongn · Post by **phongn** » 2004-07-06 08:26pm

Plekhanov wrote:Thanks for all the recommendations I’ll give firefox a try and see how I like it.

Also I forgot to say before but a few of the PCs I look after are pretty low end (400mhz 128mb that kind of thing) is firefox a good browser for hand me down systems?

It'll work, though Firefox can use up gobs of RAM when you have multiple windows and tabs open.

Pu-239 · Post by **Pu-239** » 2004-07-06 09:00pm

Vendetta wrote:My old Pentium 166 is happy with Firefox. It's still faster than IE.

That's amazing. I cannot tolerate Phoenix (old Firefox) on a Pentium 120 (Linux). Heck, it annoys me on my Pentium-II 450 with 512 MB of RAM- that and the profile locking and multiple monitors (seperate desktops) have convinced me to switch to Galeon (yet another mozilla based browser). I still miss the features though.

Plekhanov · Post by **Plekhanov** » 2004-07-06 10:00pm

Well I’ve downloaded (a mere 4.5mb) and installed Firefox and have been using it for a while now and quite like it. It’s too early to say I really like it, nothing about it has pissed me off yet anyway which is unusual as I’m very easily annoyed.

I must say that the whole process of changing browsers was incredibly quick and ridiculously easy. If any others out there are still using IE because they a scared that changing will be too much trouble quit worrying and make the move, the whole process took under 10 minutes (including downloading) and firefox seems so straightforward that you’ll hardly notice the difference.

I really was astonished at just how ridiculously easy the changeover was, I can’t believe I waited for so long before making the change. I’ll install firefox on my friends and families machines over the next week or so, it wouldn’t surprise me if they don’t even realise I’ve changed anything, assuming they have the intelligence to translate “favourites” to “bookmarks” that is which come to think of it I doubt.

Thanks again you guys for all the advice has been much appreciated and will hopefully stop all those scumbags who I feel sure have it in for me from nicking my credit card details.

Soontir C'boath · Post by **Soontir C'boath** » 2004-07-06 10:36pm

phongn wrote:
Plekhanov wrote:Thanks for all the recommendations I’ll give firefox a try and see how I like it.

Also I forgot to say before but a few of the PCs I look after are pretty low end (400mhz 128mb that kind of thing) is firefox a good browser for hand me down systems?
It'll work, though Firefox can use up gobs of RAM when you have multiple windows and tabs open.

It would be practically be the same if several IE browsers were on. Might as well keep it in one.

Pu-239 · Post by **Pu-239** » 2004-07-06 11:13pm

Yeah, I usually browse with 10-20 tabs open at a time.

KhyronTheBackstabber · Post by **KhyronTheBackstabber** » 2004-07-07 02:37am

I just went and downloaded Firefox a little while ago, and I'm liking it so far. Now it's time to put it though the ultimate test, porn.

Damaramu · Post by **Damaramu** » 2004-07-07 03:46am

I absolutely adore Firefox. I've been using it for about 4 months now and I can say that I will never, EVER use IE again.

Post by **haas mark** » 2004-07-07 03:49am

By the way, is there a way to allow pop-ups from specific sites with Opera? I've not figured that out yet...

Spyder · Post by **Spyder** » 2004-07-07 04:16am

Firefox and thunderbird. The way a system should be. Opera is also an acceptable browser.

Clone Sergeant · Post by **Clone Sergeant** » 2004-07-07 02:43pm

verilon wrote:By the way, is there a way to allow pop-ups from specific sites with Opera? I've not figured that out yet...

The only way I know of is that Opera 7 allows you to set the browser to block only unwanted pop-ups, so you only get pop-ups for links you click on.

2000AD · Post by **2000AD** » 2004-07-07 07:09pm

Flash stuff don't seem to work on Firefox. Do i need to download Flash again?

Soontir C'boath · Post by **Soontir C'boath** » 2004-07-07 07:12pm

2000AD wrote:Flash stuff don't seem to work on Firefox. Do i need to download Flash again?

Yes.