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Iranian Intel Officers captured in Iraq......

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http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,124835,00.html

WASHINGTON — American and Iraqi joint patrols, along with U.S. Special Operations (search) teams, captured two men with explosives in Baghdad on Monday who identified themselves as Iranian (search) intelligence officers, FOX News has confirmed.

Senior officials said it was previously believed that Iran had officers inside Iraq stirring up violence, but this is the first time that self-proclaimed Iranian intelligence agents have been captured within the country.

The Defense officials also confirmed to FOX News that in recent days there has been significant success in tracking down "known bad guys" based on information from local citizens. While those captured aren't from the list of former regime members or from terror leader Abu Musab al-Zarqawi's (search) network, they are "active" bombers and organizers of recent violence.

The arrest of the two Iranians suspected of attempting to carry out a vehicle bombing has focused new attention on how Tehran is trying to protect its interests in the country it fought for eight years in a devastating war.

So far, Iran is believed to have used money, not guns, to influence Iraq — particularly by spreading wealth among Shiite political factions — while avoiding a direct confrontation with its longtime rival the United States.

Monday's arrests came on the heels of comments by Iraqi Foreign Minister Hoshyar Zebari (search) saying some neighboring countries were financing and training terrorists in Iraq, apparently referring to Iran and Syria.

Syrian President Bashar Assad (search), at the end of a two-day trip to Iran on Monday, said developments in Iraq are "the most important issue" for Syria and other neighbors of Iraq, including Iran.

Iran's powerful former President Hashemi Rafsanjani (search) said Syria, Iran and Turkey should coordinate their policies to prevent the disintegration of Iraq, the Islamic Republic News Agency reported on Monday.

The "conspiracies" being hatched by "Washington and Tel Aviv" against Iraq call for increased "strategic cooperation" between Iran and Syria, Rafsanjani was quoted as saying.

The announcement of the arrests by the Iraqi Interior Ministry was a rare instance tying Iranians to a particular attack.

Iranians enraged that Shiite shrines in Iraq were damaged in fighting between U.S. troops and Iraqi insurgents have volunteered to join the battle against the Americans.

Iranian officials have said they would try to stop zealots from crossing the border — and Iran's supreme leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei (search), has refused to give a green light to one group, the Devotees for Martyrdom, that says it's eager to fight in Iraq.

Tehran insists it has no interest in fomenting instability in its neighbor to the west — and many observers say that a smooth path to elections could benefit mostly Shiite Iran, since a vote will likely bring an Iraqi government dominated by Shiites.

Foreign Ministry spokesman Hamid Reza Asefi told reporters Sunday that Tehran wants only "stability and security in Iraq."

"We haven't done any action that may smell of an act of interference in Iraq's internal affairs from the very beginning, and won't do so in the future either," Asefi said.

Tehran fears the United States is cementing its influence in Iraq. But at the same time, Iran can little afford an open clash with the Americans — something that backing for anti-U.S. violence would likely bring about.

To date, Iran has not been considered a source of manpower or financing for Iraq's mainly Sunni Muslim insurgency, said a Western diplomat in Baghdad who spoke on condition of anonymity.

Instead, it is believed to be involved in intelligence gathering inside Iraq, while quietly funding Shiite political parties in a bid to influence the government that emerges from January's elections, the diplomat said.

"Iran wants to be a silent power broker," said Iranian political analyst Davoud Hermidas Bavand. "And Iran needs to make sure that the government in Iraq will not be America's puppet."

The United States, which has been at odds with Iran since the pro-U.S. shah was toppled in the 1979 Islamic revolution, fears Iran wants to establish a fundamentalist Shiite regime in its own image in Iraq.

Saddam brutally suppressed Iraq's Shiites and fought a devastating war with Iraq from 1980-88 that is thought to have killed a million people from the two sides.

Since Saddam's fall, Washington has repeatedly accused Tehran of sending money to various Iraqi groups, dispatching intelligence agents and allowing foreign anti-American fighters to travel to Iraq through its territory. Iran has persistently denied the charges.

Iranians have been detained previously in Iraq — U.S. records show several people listed as born in Iran as currently in American custody — but none has been publicly accused of involvement in violence.

Members of Devotees for Martyrdom (search), a loose grouping of Iranian religious extremists, have said they will go to Iraq as soon as Khamenei gives them the go-ahead.

But Khamenei did nothing when Iranian officials barred volunteers from entering Iraq earlier this year when fighting between U.S.-led coalition forces and militiamen loyal to Muqtada al-Sadr (search) damaged Shiite shrines.

Grand Ayatollah Kazem al-Hosseini al-Haeri, al-Sadr's Iran-based spiritual mentor, has said it wasn't yet time for military confrontation with the United States.

Iran is believed to be trying to win influence with both al-Sadr and Iraq's most influential Shiite cleric, the Iranian-born Grand Ayatollah Ali al-Husseini al-Sistani (search).

Iraqis in the southern holy cities have expressed suspicions that offices set up by Iranians ostensibly dispensing charity or providing assistance to Shiite pilgrims might be covers for Iranian government agents.

Mohammad Ali Samadi, a spokesman for the Devotees for Martyrdom, said private Iranian charitable funds were going to a variety of Iraqi groups. He would not specify the groups.

"Iran enjoys a lot of spiritual influence in Iraq," Samadi told The Associated Press. "Iran does offer financial support to Shiites, but in the form of charity. However, it doesn't send any intelligence agents."

Iran long has maintained close ties with a variety of Iraqi groups, including Iraq's largest Shiite group, the Supreme Council of the Islamic Revolution of Iraq (search), and the two powerful Kurdish groups controlling northern Iraq, the Patriotic Union of Kurdistan (search) and the Kurdistan Democratic Party (search). The Kurdish parties are not Shiite.

Iran's contacts with Ahmad Chalabi's Iraqi National Congress (search) led to U.S. accusations that Chalabi, once a U.S. favorite to replace Saddam, passed classified intelligence to Iran. Iran said it has had a constant dialogue with Chalabi, whose group had offices in Tehran before the war, but denied that he handed over sensitive information.

Fox News' Bret Baier contributed to this report.
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Maybe Iran wants us to pull a Rommel on them after Iraq is cleaned up (or discarded, whichever is more realistic).
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What is involved when one "pulls a Rommel"?
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CaptainChewbacca wrote:What is involved when one "pulls a Rommel"?
Do what Rommel did best; steamroll into nations with a load of armour.
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Could it be possible that these "agents" are in Iraq without the backing of the government. How much control does Iran's central government have over it's intelligence agencies?
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Frankly, due to the fact that these guys owned up (apparently) so fast, I'm wondering if they're actually Iranian intelligence officers at all. Y'think they'd have a cover story or something, y'know?
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Ryoga wrote:Frankly, due to the fact that these guys owned up (apparently) so fast, I'm wondering if they're actually Iranian intelligence officers at all. Y'think they'd have a cover story or something, y'know?
Maybe it's subterfuge.

In any case, whether they are Iranian intel officers or not, the Iranian government will naturally disavow all knowledge in either case...
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Cpl Kendall wrote:Could it be possible that these "agents" are in Iraq without the backing of the government. How much control does Iran's central government have over it's intelligence agencies?
By US, UK and Canadian standards the Iranian state is extremely fractured, it’s made up of a number of competing factions and there is relatively little central control, if these guys do turn out to be Iranian “intelligence agents” they could well be acting without orders from the centre.

Ma Deuce is right though whether these guys are intelligence or not and are acting under orders or not the Iranian government will most likely deny all knowledge. The big question would seem to be what mileage our side manages to get out of the situation.
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Plekhanov wrote: By US, UK and Canadian standards the Iranian state is extremely fractured, it’s made up of a number of competing factions and there is relatively little central control, if these guys do turn out to be Iranian “intelligence agents” they could well be acting without orders from the centre.

Ma Deuce is right though whether these guys are intelligence or not and are acting under orders or not the Iranian government will most likely deny all knowledge. The big question would seem to be what mileage our side manages to get out of the situation.
So it's similar to Pakistan, where there were reports of the Pakistani intelligence service helping out AQ and Taliban remnants from Afghanistan.

You'll get no arguement from me that Iran will disavow all knowledge of their intentions.
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Ryoga wrote:Frankly, due to the fact that these guys owned up (apparently) so fast, I'm wondering if they're actually Iranian intelligence officers at all. Y'think they'd have a cover story or something, y'know?
Keep in mind that the Iranians used human wave attacks against entrenched Iraqi positions in the Iran/Iraq war, throwing away countless lives in the process. These people aren't known for their tactical planning.
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Darth Wong wrote:
Ryoga wrote:Frankly, due to the fact that these guys owned up (apparently) so fast, I'm wondering if they're actually Iranian intelligence officers at all. Y'think they'd have a cover story or something, y'know?
Keep in mind that the Iranians used human wave attacks against entrenched Iraqi positions in the Iran/Iraq war, throwing away countless lives in the process. These people aren't known for their tactical planning.
true, but still you would think they would have a cover story of some kind. Shoot maybe they are reall Syrian agents trying to throw suspicion in the opposite direction :wink:
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Aeolus wrote:true, but still you would think they would have a cover story of some kind. Shoot maybe they are reall Syrian agents trying to throw suspicion in the opposite direction :wink:
Sometimes spies can be caught when their cover stories clearly don't add up. It's tough to explain why a farmer visiting family friends is photographing military bases while carrying heavy munitions, for example. I'm sure that more details on this story will help explain exactly what happened.
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