Accusations of un-patriotic, un-Americanism

[Elfdart]

Yes, i too am puzzled. It does seem like the conservitives have taken the concept as their own, excluding all others from using it. You really almost never see liberals use a similar tactic. It's odd.

It stems from the fact that liberals are generally against our efforts in Iraq, plus Republicans see them as taking terrorism to lightly.

Your timeline is off. Accusing people of being "un-American" was around at least a hundred years before Dubya was born.

[Plekhanov]

Yes, i too am puzzled. It does seem like the conservitives have taken the concept as their own, excluding all others from using it. You really almost never see liberals use a similar tactic. It's odd.

It stems from the fact that liberals are generally against our efforts in Iraq, plus Republicans see them as taking terrorism to lightly.

So do tell me Kadre since when has a desire to invade Iraq been such an essential aspect of being an American that to lack the desire is to be un-American?

[White Haven]

I'd breathe a lot easier if people could drop the attitude of 'my country name = a holy thing.' So what if someone's un-American? Whoopy friggin doo. ANTI is another story, implying working directly at cross-purposes to, but un? Un is nice and neutral, and as long as you aren't obsessed with the concept of your nation being a fair approximation for, say, a deity...

[Tom_Aurum]

Myself, I'd tell him that I wish that Bush's name rhymed with something as nice and venomous as "hey hey LBJ, how many kids did you kill today?" Just my two cents.

[The Dark]

One caveat to Elfdart's analysis: Pennsylvania was very German even before the post-48 immigration. The "Pennsylvania Dutch" are all German (they were "Pennsylvania Deutsche"). As just one example, my ancestors Peter and Johann Heinrich Daubert immigrated to the US in the 1750s. New York, Boston, and Baltimore were mostly Anglo-Saxon; Philadelphia was heavily German until the potato famine, as evidenced by the only ethnic-named section of town: Germantown. Most others I know are named after people, such as Jenkintown. The suburbs are what have Anglo-Saxon names, with Upper Darby, Lower Gwynedd, and the like.

[His Divine Shadow]

It's also funny that our consertives here in Finland don't call their political rivals as un-finnish (apart from some extremists)

What kind of conservative parties, do we have anyway, except the wackos in the christian party?