are (physical) blastershields possible?

Lord Revan · Post by **Lord Revan** » 2004-07-14 08:49am

I have bee thinking about this for some. is it possible to build physical blastershield that can be carried by one trooper and has no energy shield generator.

Lord Revan · Post by **Lord Revan** » 2004-07-14 09:06am

Lord Revan wrote:I have bee thinking about this for some. is it possible to build physical blastershield that can be carried by one trooper and has no energy shield generator.

and just be clear. I will not take part in any debate that may come of this subject

wautd · Post by **wautd** » 2004-07-14 09:24am

I think so. I doubt the SW universe wont have meterials that can witstand basters. Since TPM I always wondered why they dont use shields by the way. They should be efficient when storming the narrow corridors of a spaceship.

Brings me up with another question:
In the DS garbage dump, the walls deflected the blasters. Why again? (IIRC the walls were magnetic? But also... why?)

nightmare · Post by **nightmare** » 2004-07-14 10:57am

I don't think so. The ROTJ bunker was very clearly heavily armored, but a single blaster shot went at least half an inch deep into it. That would most likely make a shield that is too heavy to carry.

Perhaps it's possible to use rare materials to create something light and strong enough, but that would be an exception. Besides, if it could be massproduced with cost-efficiency, why not make stormtrooper armor out of it?

Lord Revan · Post by **Lord Revan** » 2004-07-14 10:57am

wautd wrote:I think so. I doubt the SW universe wont have meterials that can witstand basters. Since TPM I always wondered why they dont use shields by the way. They should be efficient when storming the narrow corridors of a spaceship.

Brings me up with another question:
In the DS garbage dump, the walls deflected the blasters. Why again? (IIRC the walls were magnetic? But also... why?)

IIRC one of Darktrooper droids did carry blastshield that's droid we don't know is that shield light enouch to carried by person(/human).

and for DS I have no idea.

Chris OFarrell · Post by **Chris OFarrell** » 2004-07-14 11:07am

In 'Tyrents Test' it described 'Riot Shields' that contained both ray shield generators for wide area protection and energy absorbers build into them that sucked up any hits to the shield itself, leaving them vunurable only to KE weapons.

Chris OFarrell · Post by **Chris OFarrell** » 2004-07-14 11:09am

Of course if you wanted to be NASTY, you could use the same magnetic charge technique in the waste disposal area in ANH, so any hit just bounces right back

Lord Revan · Post by **Lord Revan** » 2004-07-14 11:23am

There's reason I want no active stuff on the shield, this is a part of a fanfic idea off mine set clonewars era and we do know that at least ARC-troopers carry EMP-grenages. I just wanted see idea is possible or do have rethink that part. (that's why this is PSW forum and fanfic forum.)

Praxis · Post by **Praxis** » 2004-07-14 01:38pm

No. Even if it were possible to make a physical shield resistant to blaster bolts (probably using heavy durasteel), it would either:

1) Be too heavy to hold up. Unless you attach respulsorlift units to it to make it weightless.
2) If lightweight, a blaster bolt would probably knock it backwards into the holder. We've seen how clonetrooper blaster bolts make droids FLY...

However, we know in the clonewars era they DID have shielded shields (sounds funny)...remember the Gungans? That was before the clone wars.

Lord Revan · Post by **Lord Revan** » 2004-07-14 01:45pm

Praxis wrote:No. Even if it were possible to make a physical shield resistant to blaster bolts (probably using heavy durasteel), it would either:

1) Be too heavy to hold up. Unless you attach respulsorlift units to it to make it weightless.
2) If lightweight, a blaster bolt would probably knock it backwards into the holder. We've seen how clonetrooper blaster bolts make droids FLY...

However, we know in the clonewars era they DID have shielded shields (sounds funny)...remember the Gungans? That was before the clone wars.

first don't copycat Anakin. Then I was thinking about a shield that could block shots from E-11 or weaker blaster, not shots from those overpowered DC-15s

nightmare · Post by **nightmare** » 2004-07-14 02:44pm

Chris OFarrell wrote:In 'Tyrents Test' it described 'Riot Shields' that contained both ray shield generators for wide area protection and energy absorbers build into them that sucked up any hits to the shield itself, leaving them vunurable only to KE weapons.

Sure that's Tyrant's Test? I can't find it. I know there's some others though, Espo Riot Shields and Drearian Defense Activv1.

Howedar · Post by **Howedar** » 2004-07-14 02:47pm

The answer is obviously yes, since we know Stormtrooper armor is resistant to weak blasters. It would of course not be imperveous, but neither would anything else.

Illuminatus Primus · Post by **Illuminatus Primus** » 2004-07-14 03:22pm

A phrik shield, a la the Dark Troopers' main component of their armor, would work.

nightmare · Post by **nightmare** » 2004-07-14 04:49pm

Illuminatus Primus wrote:A phrik shield, a la the Dark Troopers' main component of their armor, would work.

Probably, that was what I was thinking of too. It's lightweight and very strong. But why make a shield if you can make an armor.. ie, darktroopers.

Lord Revan · Post by **Lord Revan** » 2004-07-14 05:07pm

nightmare wrote:Probably, that was what I was thinking of too. It's lightweight and very strong. But why make a shield if you can make an armor.. ie, darktroopers.

I was thinking of having both armor and a shield.

Darth Yoshi · Post by **Darth Yoshi** » 2004-07-14 05:12pm

Chris OFarrell wrote:In 'Tyrents Test' it described 'Riot Shields' that contained both ray shield generators for wide area protection and energy absorbers build into them that sucked up any hits to the shield itself, leaving them vunurable only to KE weapons.

Are you referring to the part where what's-her-name conjures up some illusions to attack Luke and his lightsabre has trouble cutting through the guy's shield?

Also, IIRC in The Courtship of Princess Leia Isolder and Leia got into a fight that involved a shield of sort.

YT300000 · Post by **YT300000** » 2004-07-14 07:46pm

Darth Yoshi wrote:Also, IIRC in The Courtship of Princess Leia Isolder and Leia got into a fight that involved a shield of sort.

That was an energy shield.

The Silence and I · Post by **The Silence and I** » 2004-07-14 07:46pm

Against small arms, I would say yes. Small arms don't cause massive damage to unprotected bodies, only holes and presumably widespread heat shock/burns. Using Star Wars tech it should be quite possible to protect against this level of energy--yeah, blasters may have higher settings, but if the shield stops only the first few shots it has still bought that trooper something valuble: a second chance.

Illuminatus Primus · Post by **Illuminatus Primus** » 2004-07-14 08:31pm

nightmare wrote:
Illuminatus Primus wrote:A phrik shield, a la the Dark Troopers' main component of their armor, would work.
Probably, that was what I was thinking of too. It's lightweight and very strong. But why make a shield if you can make an armor.. ie, darktroopers.

Its not that light-weight.

Its either too cost-prohibitive or too heavy otherwise Stormtroopers would've warned it instead of the Empire's equalevent of T-800/850 combat endoskeletons.

Elheru Aran · Post by **Elheru Aran** » 2004-07-14 11:47pm

One of Ralph McQuarrie's early concept paintings for the original SW is fairly famous-- it's the one with the heroes going up the Death Star corridor, there's a stormtrooper with a lightsaber standing in the middle of the hallway. Behind him, there are stormies running up the corridor, carrying shields... they look to be clear with a solid horizontal stripe through the middle, much like modern riot shields.

This clearness thing brings a question to mind-- would transparisteel, treated to be as strong as fighter cockpits, be useful in this regard? I seem to recall in Wraith Squadron, a probot fired against a crate of treated TIE fighter windshields and they just blackened the transparisteel after repeated blows...

Of course, if such treated transparisteel would be too heavy, then it's a moot point anyway. But if not, they might certainly have potential as shields.

The Nomad · Post by **The Nomad** » 2004-07-16 04:51am

Discounting the Jedi Knight series and KOTOR, I don't see how it could be made a standard issue equipment.

Lord Pounder · Post by **Lord Pounder** » 2004-07-16 07:41am

What about the material the bad guy in Shatterpoint used. If his sword/shield jobbie can deflect a lightsaber i'm sure i can block a blaster bolt. Also whats to stop anyone using come of the YV Crab armour, it was blaster resistant IIRC.

Chris OFarrell · Post by **Chris OFarrell** » 2004-07-16 08:54am

For the record. About Tyrents Test:

"But the Sectional doors of the holf were guarded by a half dozen Yebetha deployed behind a pair of Imperial portable shields. The waste-high curved panels contained both ray shield generators and energy absorbers and the Yevetha had nothing to fear from hand blasters so long as they stayed behind the arc of the shields"

nightmare · Post by **nightmare** » 2004-07-16 01:33pm

Chris OFarrell wrote:For the record. About Tyrents Test:

"But the Sectional doors of the holf were guarded by a half dozen Yebetha deployed behind a pair of Imperial portable shields. The waste-high curved panels contained both ray shield generators and energy absorbers and the Yevetha had nothing to fear from hand blasters so long as they stayed behind the arc of the shields"

Thank you very much. I found out the problem, I was searching in the wrong book. (A mislabeled .lit file).

YT300000 · Post by **YT300000** » 2004-07-16 08:18pm

Lord Pounder wrote:What about the material the bad guy in Shatterpoint used. If his sword/shield jobbie can deflect a lightsaber i'm sure i can block a blaster bolt. Also whats to stop anyone using come of the YV Crab armour, it was blaster resistant IIRC.

Hm... that was starship hull material. Which makes you wonder why no one else did something similar.

However, IIRC, those teardrop-shaped shields were rather on the small side. It's possible that they weighed quite a bit (since everyone who wielded them was really heavily built).