Over 40% of Canadian teens think America is "evil"

frigidmagi · Post by **frigidmagi** » 2004-07-09 09:42pm

I think he's being sarcastic.

If so, I am sorry. I'm lousy at catching on to this kinda of humor.

Peregrin Toker · Post by **Peregrin Toker** » 2004-07-10 03:52am

Darth Wong wrote:Read their religious rant on the "Advent of the Soulless Society" at http://www.torontofreepress.com/2004/ed021604.htm to get an idea of what I'm talking about. Look at the following quote:
With the UN's relentless bid to force a godless religion on an unsuspecting world, Canada's federal government is the one that opened the door.

Must... avoid... singing Stonecutters song...

MKSheppard · Post by **MKSheppard** » 2004-07-10 05:30am

Iceberg wrote: He just happens to be black, but he's openly white.

Thanks for buying into the Uncle Tom propaganda about Powell. SO
when does a black man pass the line and become a "whitey"? When
he's successful in business or international relations without
speeking Ebonics?

Moron.

Post by **Gandalf** » 2004-07-10 05:34am

MKSheppard wrote:
Iceberg wrote: He just happens to be black, but he's openly white.
Thanks for buying into the Uncle Tom propaganda about Powell. SO
when does a black man pass the line and become a "whitey"? When
he's successful in business or international relations without
speeking Ebonics?

Moron.

He's quoting George Carlin's "You're all diseased". Not sure if that excuses it though.

SWPIGWANG · Post by **SWPIGWANG** » 2004-07-10 07:13am

We all know that America is evil. I'm mean americans even come to websites to discuss their plans for evil empires, how can they not be evil?

But I'm more evil.....

Companion Cube · Post by **Companion Cube** » 2004-07-10 09:41am

Setzer wrote:Americans, Evil? You Canadians are trash, with your beady little eyes and flapping heads!

Guess where that quote is from...

Should we blame the government? Should we blame the fire? Or the doctor who allowed him to expire? Hell no!-Blame Canada, blame Canada!... etc.

This reminds me of the poll a while back which indicated the many British people believe Battlestar Galactica really happened. I'm getting the feeling that this poll is about as reliable.

Post by **Vympel** » 2004-07-10 09:51am

I just had to quote that moron O'Reilly on this:

Link

Watch the hilarity ensue. I especially loved the part where he talks about America's actions in Central America and elsewhere as acts of "protecting people from totalitarian regimes".

Grand Admiral Thrawn · Post by **Grand Admiral Thrawn** » 2004-07-10 10:22am

Ah yes, like just this year when America allowed armed thugs to overthrow an elected leader in Haiti?

President Sharky · Post by **President Sharky** » 2004-07-10 07:16pm

If America is the Empire, then Arnold is definitely Tarkin.

I have no idea where these bullshitters are getting their poll results. Though I know many who dislike President Bush's foreign policies, most of the people in my high school (aged 15-18) look on America as the friendly, patriotic, and much richer, neighbours to the south, where you can get everything at half the price than it is up here.

Wicked Pilot · Post by **Wicked Pilot** » 2004-07-10 07:47pm

Dumbshit from Fox News wrote:The truth is that the USA has freed more human beings in 230 years than the rest of the world combined. France has freed almost no one. Ditto Canada.

I'm sure the Canadian veterans from WWII appreciate their history being remembered. Same goes for those who helped liberate Kuwaitt. And I'm sure the Canadian soldiers in Afganistan appreciate their sacrafices going unnoticed.

BlkbrryTheGreat · Post by **BlkbrryTheGreat** » 2004-07-10 07:55pm

Wicked Pilot wrote:
Dumbshit from Fox News wrote:The truth is that the USA has freed more human beings in 230 years than the rest of the world combined. France has freed almost no one. Ditto Canada.
I'm sure the Canadian veterans from WWII appreciate their history being remembered. Same goes for those who helped liberate Kuwaitt. And I'm sure the Canadian soldiers in Afganistan appreciate their sacrafices going unnoticed.

I honor their sacrifice, but in all fairness they wouldn't have accomplished much without the help of the US.

Aaron · Post by **Aaron** » 2004-07-10 11:16pm

BlkbrryTheGreat wrote: I honor their sacrifice, but in all fairness they wouldn't have accomplished much without the help of the US.

How do you figure? I don't recall the USA helping us fight the battles at Falaise or Caen, nor were they there when we liberated the Low Countries. All the USA did to help us was produce some of our equipment, but truth be told most of the equipment in use by the Canadian military was produced in Canada. What the USA did make possible was the invasion of Normandy, without their manpower it would not have been possible on that scale.

Jalinth · Post by **Jalinth** » 2004-07-10 11:56pm

Cpl Kendall wrote:
BlkbrryTheGreat wrote: I honor their sacrifice, but in all fairness they wouldn't have accomplished much without the help of the US.
How do you figure? I don't recall the USA helping us fight the battles at Falaise or Caen, nor were they there when we liberated the Low Countries. All the USA did to help us was produce some of our equipment, but truth be told most of the equipment in use by the Canadian military was produced in Canada. What the USA did make possible was the invasion of Normandy, without their manpower it would not have been possible on that scale.

Also, if you go by that view of WWII, we all need to bow down to the Soviets. Without them and the Nazis fighting tooth and nail in the East, the invasion would have been impossible (too many divisions could have repelled). So without the Soviets sacrificing millions to keep in the war, nothing the Americans did would have been relevant.

Without the UK still being in existence, the US couldn't have invaded (no close base), without the Commonwealth to draw on, Britain would have gone under, etc... War is a complex thing - trying to yank out who was responsible for victory is a pointless game. The US was the powerhouse, so was the supplier for much of the war effort. The UK and Commonwealth Countries were heavily bled during the war (Canada was relatively fortunate) that started a few years before the US was involved.

Overall - chack up these comments to another O'Reilley moment - his mouth was connected to his ass rather than his brain. And has about as much worth.

Jalinth · Post by **Jalinth** » 2004-07-10 11:58pm

Damn it

Meant that too many German divisions would have been in France to repel the invasion without the ongoing war in the East

Joe · Post by **Joe** » 2004-07-11 02:30am

Grand Admiral Thrawn wrote:Ah yes, like just this year when America allowed armed thugs to overthrow an elected leader in Haiti?

Oh, so the U.S. is supposed to get right to freeing Central Americans from totalitarian regimes, then? Let's start with Cuba!

DPDarkPrimus · Post by **DPDarkPrimus** » 2004-07-11 02:33am

Joe wrote:
Grand Admiral Thrawn wrote:Ah yes, like just this year when America allowed armed thugs to overthrow an elected leader in Haiti?
Oh, so the U.S. is supposed to get right to freeing Central Americans from totalitarian regimes, then? Let's start with Cuba!

To continue, I'll toss in Chile!

Joe · Post by **Joe** » 2004-07-11 02:41am

DPDarkPrimus wrote:
Joe wrote:
Grand Admiral Thrawn wrote:Ah yes, like just this year when America allowed armed thugs to overthrow an elected leader in Haiti?
Oh, so the U.S. is supposed to get right to freeing Central Americans from totalitarian regimes, then? Let's start with Cuba!
To continue, I'll toss in Chile!

Chile has been democratic since the 80's.

President Sharky · Post by **President Sharky** » 2004-07-11 09:12pm

Well, the Americans did unseat Noriega from Panama, but that was mainly because he was a drug lord. It wasn't for the good of the people of Panama or anything.

DPDarkPrimus · Post by **DPDarkPrimus** » 2004-07-11 09:40pm

Joe wrote:
DPDarkPrimus wrote:
Joe wrote: Oh, so the U.S. is supposed to get right to freeing Central Americans from totalitarian regimes, then? Let's start with Cuba!
To continue, I'll toss in Chile!
Chile has been democratic since the 80's.

Subtle humor is never appreciated.

Graeme Dice · Post by **Graeme Dice** » 2004-07-14 11:58am

BlkbrryTheGreat wrote:I honor their sacrifice, but in all fairness they wouldn't have accomplished much without the help of the US.

Why? Because Canada only had just about the largest navy, and 4th largest army amongst the allies in WWII?

Col. Crackpot · Post by **Col. Crackpot** » 2004-07-14 12:25pm

also, 40% of American teens think Canadian is a type of bacon.

Raptor 597 · Post by **Raptor 597** » 2004-07-14 03:33pm

Graeme Dice wrote:
BlkbrryTheGreat wrote:I honor their sacrifice, but in all fairness they wouldn't have accomplished much without the help of the US.
Why? Because Canada only had just about the largest navy, and 4th largest army amongst the allies in WWII?

Rowboats and patrol craft does "qualify" as the "largest" navy, but not the most powerful.

However, they did have quite a few good cruisers and destroyers and Canada's Army Corps was appreciated in Europe.

Ma Deuce · Post by **Ma Deuce** » 2004-07-14 04:30pm

Graeme Dice wrote:Why? Because Canada only had just about the largest navy, and 4th largest army amongst the allies in WWII?

It should be noted that the vast bulk of Canada's warships during WWII were puny destroyers, destroyer-escorts, and corvettes, and the RCN's predominant task was protecting convoys from U-boats, not engaging other navies head-on, as we had no capital ships (battleships and fleet carriers), and thus would be curbstomped by any navy who did have them. Also, when the RCN held it's place as the "world's 3rd largest navy" the the end of WWII, the Imperial Japanese Navy and the Kreigsmarine had already been decimated.

At its peak near the end of WWII, the RCN had only had a handful of ships larger than destroyers, which consisted of two light cruisers, 4 carriers (3 of which were escort carriers, aka "baby flat tops"). Also, it should be noted that a good chunk of the WWII-era RCN (including all our heaviest ships such as the ones mentioned above) was built Britain: The ships were donated to Canada simply because the Brits didn't have enough men available to crew them.

Also, Canada's WWII army consited of a mere 5 divisions (3 infantry, 2 armored). By contrast, the US Army ultimately fielded about 90 divisions, the British fielded 50+ divisions (not counting "static" divisions like AA or home-guard divisions, which would bring this total to close to 100), and the Red Army peaked at well over 200 divisions.

Not trying to diss my own country's contribution to WWII, but there is only so much a country with Canada's limited manpower can do...