Hyperspace Ramming

[Executor]

Is there any source that states what would happen to a planet if say an ISD rammed it while a) still in hyperspace and b) having just exited hyperspace right in front of the planet (just outside the atmosphere?

[Bertie Wooster]

According to WEG, the gravity shadow of the planet would destroy the ship whilst in hyperspace, before the ship could collide with the planet.

[YT300000]

Is there any source that states what would happen to a planet if say an ISD rammed it while a) still in hyperspace and b) having just exited hyperspace right in front of the planet (just outside the atmosphere?

a) was Daala's plan for Coruscant in KJA's Jedi Academy series. *shudders* IIRC, it was supposed to wipe out a sizable chunk of the city scape.

[Bertie Wooster]

a) was Daala's plan for Coruscant in KJA's Jedi Academy series. *shudders* IIRC, it was supposed to wipe out a sizable chunk of the city scape.

was it supposed to impact the planet while it was in hyperspace or while it was in realspace?

I mean, a Star Destroyer impacting a planet at light-speed would damage the planet geologically, not just it's surface.

[Techno_Union]

SW ships can go to hyperspace while in a gravity well, however, it is EXTREMELY dangerous. Solo did this while making is Kessel Run, he cheated the saftey lines of on of the black holes.

[YT300000]

I am really not sure. And I'd rather lose a finger than read those books again (especially since I don't know if it was in book 2 or 3).

[Illuminatus Primus]

I'm sure relativistic calculations can figure for the KE of a superluminal impact.

[Enola Straight]

I believe such KE would have a negative imaginary value.
Of course this is for the realspace continuum...hyperspace spatial/temporal coordinates may very well be neither real nor positive.

i.e (-ix,-jy,-kz,-lt)

[Wild Karrde]

a) was Daala's plan for Coruscant in KJA's Jedi Academy series. *shudders* IIRC, it was supposed to wipe out a sizable chunk of the city scape.

was it supposed to impact the planet while it was in hyperspace or while it was in realspace?

I mean, a Star Destroyer impacting a planet at light-speed would damage the planet geologically, not just it's surface.

"....As we approach in-system, the Basilisk's small volunteer crew will begin a self-destruct countdown. The Gorgon will run interference until we reach our target, at which time we will turn aside...."

[Praxis]

The fleet would drop out of hyperspace NEAR the planet, then fly in and ram before the defenses could scramble.

[Techno_Union]

IIRC, there are robot ram ships, however, I am not sure if they ram you in hyperspace or realspace.

[Darth Yoshi]

If you're referring to the ramships used by the Saccorian Triad in their bid for Corellia in Showdown at Centerpoint, those were in realspace.

[Techno_Union]

If you're referring to the ramships used by the Saccorian Triad in their bid for Corellia in Showdown at Centerpoint, those were in realspace.

I believe that's them, I read up on them in the Essential Guide to Droids.

[Bob the Gunslinger]

I believe such KE would have a negative imaginary value.
Of course this is for the realspace continuum...hyperspace spatial/temporal coordinates may very well be neither real nor positive.

i.e (-ix,-jy,-kz,-lt)

i, j, k? Are you using the Quaternions for Hyperspace?


Cause if you are... that's, you know.... awesome.

Someone tell Hamilton we found a use for his set after all!

[Enola Straight]

I'd like to believe that each real dimension...length, width, depth, time...has an imaginary counterpart.

Spacetime and imaginaryspace creating a hyperdimensional fractal super-solid, a kind of Mandelbrot Tesseract of which the observable universe is only a cross-sectioned slice.

[Mr Bean]

Gravity interferes with Hyperdrive engines infact if you try and have them enaged near any kind of gravity well not only do they throw off caculations they also cause extensive damage to the hyerdrive motivatiors(Which according to dialog are the devices that let you stay in Hyperspace to begin with)


Go by the events of the Centerpoint series you can't ram anything like a planet in Hyperdrive as the mass shadow burns up and destroys the ship before it can even hit the planet

[Connor MacLeod]

Is there any source that states what would happen to a planet if say an ISD rammed it while a) still in hyperspace

Since object sin hyperspace can be destrtoyed by realspace collisions, the opposite must also be true. (It must be possible for objects in hyperspace to affect/damage/destroy objects in realspace.)

and b) having just exited hyperspace right in front of the planet (just outside the atmosphere?

3 ISDs dropped out of hyperspacee right on top of the Executor in one of the Archie Goodwin comics. If an ISD emerged from hyperspace right in frfont of a planet.. its possible it might run into the planet at relatavistic speeds. Which is not good (that is in fact what happeend with the Executor - objects emerging from hyperspace experience rapid deceleration._)

[The Nomad]

If hyperspace is indeed the tachyon counterpart of the Universe ( as Curtis Saxton hypothetized ), objects that go real fast in hyperspace will have almost no KE.

[His Divine Shadow]

Is there any source that states what would happen to a planet if say an ISD rammed it while a) still in hyperspace and b) having just exited hyperspace right in front of the planet (just outside the atmosphere?

a) was Daala's plan for Coruscant in KJA's Jedi Academy series. *shudders* IIRC, it was supposed to wipe out a sizable chunk of the city scape.

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Pg. 303: "As we approach in-system, the Basilisk's small volunteer crew will begin a self-destruct countdown. The Gorgon will run interference until we reach our target, at which time we will turn aside. At full speed the Basilisk will plunge into the atmosphere of Coruscant. It will be unstoppable."

"When the Basilisk detonates..." Daala said. She paused as the planetary image flashed with a brilliant ring of fire that sent ripples igniting through the atmosphere. All the lights on the night side of the planet went dark. Cracks of fire appeared across the land masses.

"The explosion will be sufficient to level the buildings on half a continent. The shock wave traveling through the planetary core could topple cities on the other side of the world. The underground resevoirs will break open. Tidal waves will cause damage along the coasts. For the price of one Star Destroyer, we can lay waste to Coruscant."
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-Dark Apprentice

[Bob the Gunslinger]

I'd like to believe that each real dimension...length, width, depth, time...has an imaginary counterpart.

Spacetime and imaginaryspace creating a hyperdimensional fractal super-solid, a kind of Mandelbrot Tesseract of which the observable universe is only a cross-sectioned slice.

Sounds like "Flatland" with 20th century math.

[YT300000]

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Pg. 303: "As we approach in-system, the Basilisk's small volunteer crew will begin a self-destruct countdown. The Gorgon will run interference until we reach our target, at which time we will turn aside. At full speed the Basilisk will plunge into the atmosphere of Coruscant. It will be unstoppable."

"When the Basilisk detonates..." Daala said. She paused as the planetary image flashed with a brilliant ring of fire that sent ripples igniting through the atmosphere. All the lights on the night side of the planet went dark. Cracks of fire appeared across the land masses.

"The explosion will be sufficient to level the buildings on half a continent. The shock wave traveling through the planetary core could topple cities on the other side of the world. The underground resevoirs will break open. Tidal waves will cause damage along the coasts. For the price of one Star Destroyer, we can lay waste to Coruscant."
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-Dark Apprentice

Okay, maybe not. But it just goes to show how good my brain is at purging.

[Executor]

So we have an ISD exiting hyperspace and ramming will basically destroy most buildings and life on a planet,

If the safties are off on the hyperdrive the ship will be able to hit something like a planet since there wont be any cut off?

[Connor MacLeod]

Just to further clarify things, the effects of a hyperspace collision are detailed on the SWTC site in both the Hyperspace entry and the Endor Holocaust (under the FAQ, where it is asked what would happen if Endor's mass was in hyperspace.)

Quoted below as an example is the text provided under the Endor Holocaust FAQ:


[quote="Star Wars Technical Commentaries"]
What if the debris goes into hyperspace?

Sending the debris into hyperspace (presumably involving local misfiring of hyperdrive systems within the station) would solve nothing. It is a well established fact that objects in hyperspace collide with objects in realspace destructively. ("You can fly right through a star ... and that will end your trip real quick.") The debris that flies off in the direction of the moon will crash into the moon. The only question is whether the material would revert to realspace or just dump its mass-energy in the moon's atmosphere. The former scenario will have consequences similar to those outlined in the main parts of the commentary. The latter scenario effectively means irradiating the near side of the moon with the equivalent of the annihilation energy of much of the station's mass — an unfathomable dosage of hard radiation.

In simple terms, the mass in hyperspace through collisions gets converted into hard radiation (IE a shitload of energy) It should be noted though, what Daala was describing was not a hyperspace collision per see.. more like a Star Destroyer ramming into the planet and self destructing itself.