Could Admiral Ackbar have beaten the Yuuzhan Vong?
Moderator: Vympel
- Darksider
- Sith Acolyte
- Posts: 5271
- Joined: 2002-12-13 02:56pm
- Location: America's decaying industrial armpit.
Could Admiral Ackbar have beaten the Yuuzhan Vong?
Spin off of the thrawn thread
If a mysterious "accident" were to befall Borsk Fel'ya shortly before the Vong invasion, and the senate brought Ackbar out of retirement and gave him full command over all the NRDF's resources, how much damage could he do to the Vong?
If a mysterious "accident" were to befall Borsk Fel'ya shortly before the Vong invasion, and the senate brought Ackbar out of retirement and gave him full command over all the NRDF's resources, how much damage could he do to the Vong?
And this is why you don't watch anything produced by Ronald D. Moore after he had his brain surgically removed and replaced with a bag of elephant semen.-Gramzamber, on why Caprica sucks
He would have had the brains to be decisive and attack. That would have helped a lot.
Howedar is no longer here. Need to talk to him? Talk to Pick.
Every halfway decent officer without being bound by stupid politicans should have been able to stop the Vong.
The optimist thinks, that we live in the best of all possible worlds and the pessimist is afraid, that this is true.
"Don't ask, what your country can do for you. Ask, what you can do for your country." Mao Tse-Tung.
"Don't ask, what your country can do for you. Ask, what you can do for your country." Mao Tse-Tung.
That is the perfect responce to both polls. I love it!
"I drink the whiskey Drink, I Drink the Vodka drink.And when I have to pee, I use the kitchen sink!" ~Homer Simpson
"Garak: ...really, doctor, there was no harm done.
Dr. Bashir: They broke seven of your transverse ribs and fractured your clavicle.
Garak: Ah, but I got off several cutting remarks which no doubt did serious damage to their egos. "
"Garak: ...really, doctor, there was no harm done.
Dr. Bashir: They broke seven of your transverse ribs and fractured your clavicle.
Garak: Ah, but I got off several cutting remarks which no doubt did serious damage to their egos. "
- Bob the Gunslinger
- Has not forgotten the face of his father
- Posts: 4760
- Joined: 2004-01-08 06:21pm
- Location: Somewhere out west
But what if... it's a trap!
"Gunslinger indeed. Quick draw, Bob. Quick draw." --Count Chocula
"Unquestionably, Dr. Who is MUCH lighter in tone than WH40K. But then, I could argue the entirety of WWII was much lighter in tone than WH40K." --Broomstick
"This is ridiculous. I look like the Games Workshop version of a Jedi Knight." --Harry Dresden, Changes
"Like...are we canonical?" --Aaron Dembski-Bowden to Dan Abnett
"Unquestionably, Dr. Who is MUCH lighter in tone than WH40K. But then, I could argue the entirety of WWII was much lighter in tone than WH40K." --Broomstick
"This is ridiculous. I look like the Games Workshop version of a Jedi Knight." --Harry Dresden, Changes
"Like...are we canonical?" --Aaron Dembski-Bowden to Dan Abnett
- Darksider
- Sith Acolyte
- Posts: 5271
- Joined: 2002-12-13 02:56pm
- Location: America's decaying industrial armpit.
Bob the Gunslinger wrote:But what if... it's a trap!
He seems to do rather well in those situations, as long as the enemy leader is insane, and I think some of the Vong leaders (If not all) would qualify.
And this is why you don't watch anything produced by Ronald D. Moore after he had his brain surgically removed and replaced with a bag of elephant semen.-Gramzamber, on why Caprica sucks
- 2000AD
- Emperor's Hand
- Posts: 6666
- Joined: 2002-07-03 06:32pm
- Location: Leeds, wishing i was still in Newcastle
If he did come out of retirement it would seriously fuck him up!
When we actually see him in Destinies Way (IIRC) old age and a life of high stress have taken they're toll on him heavily and IIRC he's been retired since the end of the HoT Duology.
When we actually see him in Destinies Way (IIRC) old age and a life of high stress have taken they're toll on him heavily and IIRC he's been retired since the end of the HoT Duology.
Ph34r teh eyebrow!!11!Writers Guild Sluggite Pawn of Chaos WYGIWYGAINGW so now i have to put ACPATHNTDWATGODW in my sig EBC-Honorary Geordie
Hammerman! Hammer!
Hammerman! Hammer!
- Master of Ossus
- Darkest Knight
- Posts: 18213
- Joined: 2002-07-11 01:35am
- Location: California
I doubt that he would have been THAT much more effective than he already was. It took him ages to devise that plan of his over Ebaq 9, and it would have been harder on him if he was in command of the entire NRDF at the time. The best thing he would do is take the gloves off and put the right officers in place, but I doubt that he would make any particular strategically brilliant decisions. Don't get me wrong--he would probably be able to stop the YV just because those things would be enough, but I doubt that he could deliver victory after victory like the one at Ebaq.
"Sometimes I think you WANT us to fail." "Shut up, just shut up!" -Two Guys from Kabul
Latinum Star Recipient; Hacker's Cross Award Winner
"one soler flar can vapririze the planit or malt the nickl in lass than millasacit" -Bagara1000
"Happiness is just a Flaming Moe away."
Latinum Star Recipient; Hacker's Cross Award Winner
"one soler flar can vapririze the planit or malt the nickl in lass than millasacit" -Bagara1000
"Happiness is just a Flaming Moe away."
As much as I love Ackbar, I agree with 'da Master. Ackbar's Ebaq victory came about only as a result of 3 years of observation of YV tactics and abilities, something that he had relied on very much prior to his retirement. If Borsk had managed to overcome his pride and called Ackbar back, there may have been some difference, but not on the level that Ebaq was.Master of Ossus wrote:I doubt that he would have been THAT much more effective than he already was. It took him ages to devise that plan of his over Ebaq 9, and it would have been harder on him if he was in command of the entire NRDF at the time. The best thing he would do is take the gloves off and put the right officers in place, but I doubt that he would make any particular strategically brilliant decisions. Don't get me wrong--he would probably be able to stop the YV just because those things would be enough, but I doubt that he could deliver victory after victory like the one at Ebaq.
- Lord Pounder
- Pretty Hate Machine
- Posts: 9695
- Joined: 2002-11-19 04:40pm
- Location: Belfast, unfortunately
- Contact:
The problem is Ackbar was retired and he was only getting 2nd hand reports from friends. If he had have been in the loop from the beginning i'm sure he coulda pulled out a few victories, enough to put the Vong on the back foot for a while. Also he is well know for his previous disputes with Borsk Fei'lya and would have told old Borsk where to get off if he was interfearing with his activities. The problem boiled down to the Supremem Commander of the NRDF being a pussy.
RIP Yosemite Bear
Gone, Never Forgotten
Gone, Never Forgotten