The Giants must not be defeated!

Post by **Kuja** » 2002-10-28 09:47pm

ElBlanco wrote: Ever watched pro football? How many linemen are over 300 lbs of things other than muscle?

I grew up with baseball so I see its beauty and strategy. You people don't understand what a thrill it is to see to pitchers having a duel on the mound.

And every athlete will tell you that the hardest thing in sports is hitting a ball with a bat. At least, the ones I know.

Stategy? WTF are you talking about? It's the same damn thing over and over. Soccer and football use stategy. I've never seen a baseball playbook.

ElBlanco · Post by **ElBlanco** » 2002-10-28 10:34pm

I am refering to a hit and run, a suicide squeeze, shifting the defense, a pitch selection. Do you know when to hold a runner at first rather than drop the firstbaseman back? How about do you send a runner with a .300 hitter and a hard throwing pitcher? If you have a breaking ball throwing pitcher vs a scrappy hitter, how would you shift your infield? There is a ton of strategy in baseball. It is very much a thinking man's game.

And I think soccer is a boring sport. Same with pro hoops. But, then again, I love hockey.

Post by **Kuja** » 2002-10-28 10:40pm

And who does all that thinking? The pitcher and the coaches. It's not a team sport where the whole group works together, execpte throw-and-catch with two or three members at a time.

ElBlanco · Post by **ElBlanco** » 2002-10-28 10:46pm

Who selects the play in a football game? The coaches and maybe a handful of the QBs in the NFL. Only one man is going to carry the ball into the endzone. But, the other players have roles to play. Same as in baseball.

Post by **Kuja** » 2002-10-28 10:58pm

But then the ENTIRE TEAM carries it out, whereas in baseball, you NEVER involve the enitre team in a play.

ElBlanco · Post by **ElBlanco** » 2002-10-28 11:05pm

So a football team's defense carries out an option play? Or do just the players on the field? Same as with baseball.

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2002-10-28 11:06pm

They all suck, anyway.

At least in my opinion.

Post by **Kuja** » 2002-10-28 11:07pm

That's not what I'm talking about, dipshit. When was the last time you saw all nine players on the field involved in one play? Never.

At the most, it's three or four.

HemlockGrey · Post by **HemlockGrey** » 2002-10-29 06:59am

So? All the players are eventually involved, and they are all crucial to the play; if one screws up, the whole house comes falling down.

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2002-10-29 08:40am

Oh, puh-lease. At the end of a hard-fought hockey or football game, the players are battered, bloody, and they've lost significant body weight from sweat. At the end of a baseball game, everyone looks like they've just been milling around for three hours. What was the last time you saw a baseball player, sweaty, exhausted and spent on the field of battle?

The only real exercise they get is bench-clearing brawls, and those only last for 30 seconds or so.

jegs2 · Post by **jegs2** » 2002-10-29 08:52am

Darth Wong wrote:Oh, puh-lease. At the end of a hard-fought hockey or football game, the players are battered, bloody, and they've lost significant body weight from sweat. At the end of a baseball game, everyone looks like they've just been milling around for three hours. What was the last time you saw a baseball player, sweaty, exhausted and spent on the field of battle?

The only real exercise they get is bench-clearing brawls, and those only last for 30 seconds or so.

I'll have to agree with Mike on this one. For me, watching baseball has all the appeal of watching pait dry, only less exciting. Strangely, my wife knows more about the sport than I do (she recently explained the term, "RBI," to me). I once fell asleep trying to watch was was supposedly one of the more intense World Series games. I'll take football, and more specifically, college football over baseball any day of the week.

His Divine Shadow · Post by **His Divine Shadow** » 2002-10-29 08:57am

Just about every last sport on TV can go fuck itself with an acid-covered 2x4 and stop cancelling my godamn shows!

jegs2 · Post by **jegs2** » 2002-10-29 09:05am

Okay then...

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2002-10-29 09:18am

His Divine Shadow wrote:Just about every last sport on TV can go fuck itself with an acid-covered 2x4 and stop cancelling my godamn shows!

Yes. I can feel the hate flowing through you now ...

Release your anger!!!

Guest · Post by **Guest** » 2002-10-29 10:46am

I find football more exciting than baseball, although I did watch most of the World Series because the Giants were in it. I'm from the San Francisco Bay Area. I think baseball players are paid way too much for what they do, especially Barry Bonds.

Larz · Post by **Larz** » 2002-10-29 10:51am

Football... hardcore sport...

Hockey I believe, but football, especially prefesional... if you want a hardcore sport try rugby.

Rugby All the Way!!!

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2002-10-29 11:46am

His Divine Shadow wrote:Just about every last sport on TV can go fuck itself with an acid-covered 2x4 and stop cancelling my godamn shows!

Damn fucking straight!! On Mondays I have to wait until after 11 PM for the 10 PM local news!! Stupid Monday Night Football!!

ElBlanco · Post by **ElBlanco** » 2002-10-29 12:07pm

Darth Wong wrote:Oh, puh-lease. At the end of a hard-fought hockey or football game, the players are battered, bloody, and they've lost significant body weight from sweat. At the end of a baseball game, everyone looks like they've just been milling around for three hours. What was the last time you saw a baseball player, sweaty, exhausted and spent on the field of battle?

The only real exercise they get is bench-clearing brawls, and those only last for 30 seconds or so.

Baseball players don't sweat? They don't get battered? Ask Mike Piazza about that. Have a batter foul a 90+ mph fastball off you a few times in an hour and see how comfortable you are. Have some asshole slide spikes first into your ribs and tell me it doesn't hurt. Ask a pitcher how it feels to throw fastball after curveball after fastbqall for nine innings. Your arm feels like jello.

As for the lack of fighting, yes, stupid MLB. Can you believe they want to keep focus on the game?

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2002-10-29 12:09pm

The only sport I'd actually watch is Rollerball (James Caan Version).

That's what the world needs! Rollerball!!

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2002-10-29 12:26pm

ElBlanco wrote:Baseball players don't sweat? They don't get battered? Ask Mike Piazza about that. Have a batter foul a 90+ mph fastball off you a few times in an hour and see how comfortable you are. Have some asshole slide spikes first into your ribs and tell me it doesn't hurt. Ask a pitcher how it feels to throw fastball after curveball after fastbqall for nine innings. Your arm feels like jello.

Really! Stand one of these "tough guys" up and have Scott Stevens body-check him into the boards, and see just how tough he is. Have him get tackled by a 300 pound lineman and see just how tough he is. The catcher's position is the toughest and most physically demanding in all of baseball. That's just how pathetic the sport is; maybe once every half-dozen games, he might have a physical encounter. Oooohhh.

Oh, and a tired arm. Oooohhh. Hockey players get stitched up and go back out to play. Baseball players get a "sore elbow" and they're out for six weeks.

As for the lack of fighting, yes, stupid MLB. Can you believe they want to keep focus on the game?

Sure. They focus on a non-physical game in chess too, but they don't call it a sport. And there's not quite as much sitting around.

Kelly Antilles · Post by **Kelly Antilles** » 2002-10-29 12:32pm

I'll take college basketball over any sport any day of the week. Mmmmmmm, young, handsome men in shorts. I just wish they'd go back to the shorts of the early 80's. Short and tight. I hate these long baggy things they wear now.

Post by **Kuja** » 2002-10-29 01:22pm

My cousin played basketball in HS as a guard. He was pretty damn good.

ElBlanco · Post by **ElBlanco** » 2002-10-29 02:35pm

Darth Wong wrote:
ElBlanco wrote:Baseball players don't sweat? They don't get battered? Ask Mike Piazza about that. Have a batter foul a 90+ mph fastball off you a few times in an hour and see how comfortable you are. Have some asshole slide spikes first into your ribs and tell me it doesn't hurt. Ask a pitcher how it feels to throw fastball after curveball after fastbqall for nine innings. Your arm feels like jello.
Really! Stand one of these "tough guys" up and have Scott Stevens body-check him into the boards, and see just how tough he is. Have him get tackled by a 300 pound lineman and see just how tough he is. The catcher's position is the toughest and most physically demanding in all of baseball. That's just how pathetic the sport is; maybe once every half-dozen games, he might have a physical encounter. Oooohhh.

Oh, and a tired arm. Oooohhh. Hockey players get stitched up and go back out to play. Baseball players get a "sore elbow" and they're out for six weeks.
As for the lack of fighting, yes, stupid MLB. Can you believe they want to keep focus on the game?
Sure. They focus on a non-physical game in chess too, but they don't call it a sport. And there's not quite as much sitting around.

Half a dozen games? You don't watch enough baseball. And sure, Scott Stevens can take a run on Piazza, provided they wear the same amount of pads, and Stevens doesn't knock himself stupid before he gets there.

And there is a difference between physical activity and fighting. Would you compare a triathalon to chess? They don't tackle each other.

Post by **Kuja** » 2002-10-29 02:41pm

ElBlanco wrote: Half a dozen games? You don't watch enough baseball. And sure, Scott Stevens can take a run on Piazza, provided they wear the same amount of pads, and Stevens doesn't knock himself stupid before he gets there.

BACK THIS UP. Don't come at us with, 'you don't watch ewnough baseball'. It's a known fact that football players slam into each other, but baseball?

And there is a difference between physical activity and fighting. Would you compare a triathalon to chess? They don't tackle each other.

No shit, really? That's not the point he's trying to make. Chess and baseball are both non-physical games, but one models itself as a sport and one doesn't bother.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » 2002-10-29 02:52pm

Baseball is a sport, it just isn't a dedicated contact sport. The only contact between opposing players is tagging and that's about it. "Unintentional" contact such as beaning and tackling isn't allowed in the rules.

I can see why people find it boring. The game is a lot slower paced than other sports. There are times when baseball is exciting though. I rarely watch it, but occasionally it is good.