KOTOR 2 trailer out

Slartibartfast · Post by **Slartibartfast** » 2004-07-29 03:39pm

Honestly, the way the first game depicted it, going to the Dark Side is got to be one of the hardest things in the world. Quicker, easier, more seductive my ass! (well maybe seductive). You literally have to kick small dogs and slaughter people for fun and insult your friends and treat them like shit.

And in situations where the most short-term AND long-term benefit was by doing the right thing (like, if you rescue person X, you get a HUGE reward plus free ammo and everyone kisses your ass and the rescued victim offers to give you oral sex and his house and the President of the Republic wants to give you an entire planet: if you do it, you get Light Side points, but if you laugh maniacally and kill the victim, shooting yourself in the foot in the most shameful way, you get Dark Side points

)

And me here thinking all this time that the path to the Dark Side was paved with good intentions...

DPDarkPrimus · Post by **DPDarkPrimus** » 2004-07-29 03:46pm

Slartibartfast wrote:Honestly, the way the first game depicted it, going to the Dark Side is got to be one of the hardest things in the world. Quicker, easier, more seductive my ass! (well maybe seductive). You literally have to kick small dogs and slaughter people for fun and insult your friends and treat them like shit.

Yeah, I know. I was almost as bad as T4, and then I do ONE thing, ONE THING, and I'm back up to neutral.

Cao Cao · Post by **Cao Cao** » 2004-07-29 04:21pm

That sort of reminds me of when I'm playing as a female darksider and I want to kill Carth, but I have to save Dustil first so he'll fall in love with be and boom. Big Light Side points.
Can't the game see it's not altruism, it's me being a manipulative little shit with murder as my ultimate objective?

neoolong · Post by **neoolong** » 2004-07-29 04:36pm

They could have made it more like Fallout, where you could just kill a bunch of kids and become evil. That would have made it a lot easier to be Dark Side.

DPDarkPrimus · Post by **DPDarkPrimus** » 2004-07-29 10:22pm

I hope you can fight random people on the street in KOTOR II to earn Dark Side points.

Galvatron · Post by **Galvatron** » 2004-07-29 10:32pm

I also think you should have light and dark love interests, with multiple endings for each.

Go dark and you can get Veronica. Go light and you can get Betty.

OR

Go light and you can turn Veronica light. Go dark and you can turn Betty dark.

OR

Go dark and have them both.

Above all, the dark path should involve heavy use of intimidating yet civil Vader-speak, not the thuggish crap that was in the original KOTOR.

Slartibartfast · Post by **Slartibartfast** » 2004-07-29 11:28pm

Yeah every convo in the game could be reduced to:

-Why can't we all get along? Group hug! (Light Side Points gained)
-I hate you, I hate you I hate you I hate you! (Dark Side Points gained)

or

-Credits are bad m'kay? Give me more XP (Light Side Points gained)
-Where is the money? Show me the money! (Dark Side Points gained)

YT300000 · Post by **YT300000** » 2004-07-30 02:10pm

Slartibartfast wrote:Honestly, the way the first game depicted it, going to the Dark Side is got to be one of the hardest things in the world. Quicker, easier, more seductive my ass! (well maybe seductive). You literally have to kick small dogs and slaughter people for fun and insult your friends and treat them like shit.

And in situations where the most short-term AND long-term benefit was by doing the right thing (like, if you rescue person X, you get a HUGE reward plus free ammo and everyone kisses your ass and the rescued victim offers to give you oral sex and his house and the President of the Republic wants to give you an entire planet: if you do it, you get Light Side points, but if you laugh maniacally and kill the victim, shooting yourself in the foot in the most shameful way, you get Dark Side points )

And me here thinking all this time that the path to the Dark Side was paved with good intentions...

Exactly! And with the Rakatan computer on Kashyyk, if you answered the questions logically with good tactics, you got Dark Side points.

Slartibartfast · Post by **Slartibartfast** » 2004-07-30 11:21pm

Right, because the computer blatantly tells you that you're supposed to answer like a complete sociopath, a light-side Jedi has to be a dumbass and can't lie to the computer.

Also the idiotic way it rephrased some question because you chose the expected answer for the wrong reasons (you see, Dark Siders aren't supposed to sacrifice thousands of lives to accomplish the greater goal, like saving entire worlds. Given the option of letting your troops die to save your capital world, you're supposed to let them die FAILING to save the capital world so that more people suffer)

neoolong · Post by **neoolong** » 2004-07-30 11:36pm

Slartibartfast wrote:Right, because the computer blatantly tells you that you're supposed to answer like a complete sociopath, a light-side Jedi has to be a dumbass and can't lie to the computer.

Lying is evil, mmkay. It leads to the Dark Side, mmkay.

Post by **Vympel** » 2004-07-31 02:39am

Galvatron wrote:
Personally, I think there should be consequences for both choices. If you go light, the darker members of the party should turn on you and vice versa if you go the other way.

If you check the developers website, there are.