Kerry vs Bush (again)

[Hamel]

As much as I dislike Clinton, I won't deny him his accolades. He is very charismatic, articulate, and personable. He is also highly intelligent and full of information. Bush is non of these things. However, We can't put Clinton back up for re-election, and I'm sure as hell not going to elect Kerry. So to Bush it goes.

You won't consider a 3rd party candidate? You'd rather reelect someone who is arguably the worst president in America's history?

[The Cleric]

As much as I dislike Clinton, I won't deny him his accolades. He is very charismatic, articulate, and personable. He is also highly intelligent and full of information. Bush is non of these things. However, We can't put Clinton back up for re-election, and I'm sure as hell not going to elect Kerry. So to Bush it goes.

You won't consider a 3rd party candidate? You'd rather reelect someone who is arguably the worst president in America's history?

1.) No, I prefer to not waste my vote on 3rd party.
2.) And while Bush is no angel, he's not the worst.

[Durandal]

As much as I dislike Clinton, I won't deny him his accolades. He is very charismatic, articulate, and personable. He is also highly intelligent and full of information. Bush is non of these things. However, We can't put Clinton back up for re-election, and I'm sure as hell not going to elect Kerry. So to Bush it goes.

You won't consider a 3rd party candidate? You'd rather reelect someone who is arguably the worst president in America's history?

1.) No, I prefer to not waste my vote on 3rd party.
2.) And while Bush is no angel, he's not the worst.

So instead of wasting your vote on a third party, you're going to reelect someone whose presidency has been a total disaster of foreign and domestic policy? I'd say that's an even bigger waste of your vote.

[The Cleric]

So instead of wasting your vote on a third party, you're going to reelect someone whose presidency has been a total disaster of foreign and domestic policy? I'd say that's an even bigger waste of your vote.

No 3rd party will be elected. Lesser of 2 evils.

[Darth Wong]

So instead of wasting your vote on a third party, you're going to reelect someone whose presidency has been a total disaster of foreign and domestic policy? I'd say that's an even bigger waste of your vote.

No 3rd party will be elected. Lesser of 2 evils.

And you have determined that Kerry would cause more damage than George W. Bush, John Ashcroft, Donald Rumsfeld, and Dick Cheney given a second term ... how?

[Durandal]

So instead of wasting your vote on a third party, you're going to reelect someone whose presidency has been a total disaster of foreign and domestic policy? I'd say that's an even bigger waste of your vote.

No 3rd party will be elected. Lesser of 2 evils.

Which would be Kerry. Bush has already shown that he's a total failure as president. And you want to give him another shot?

[Stravo]

Consideriong all that has happened during this administration can we get a reason why you won't vote for Kerry? So far Bush has ruined our reputation on the international scene, brought us a war we did not want by lying to the people and now doesn't have the balls to even say that he was wrong, I guess the buc doesn't stop at Bush, in fact it never gets near him and the weak economic recovery is underwhelming. What possible harm is there in Kerry when we've had 4 years of this??

[Joe]

Have you ever considered not voting?

[The Cleric]

Have you ever considered not voting?

If you don't vote, then you have no right to complain.

I vote Republican because I was raised Republican. It appeals to my innner sense of rightness and what's left of my morality. I don't have numbers or hard proof to back up my opinions, so I leave them as that. Opinions. That's why I don't go out and try to convince people to vote one way or the other, I prefer to let the Irony God's sort things out.

[Spyder]

I strongly encourage anyone that lacks the ability to think for themselves to stay home on election day.

[Joe]

If you don't vote, then you have no right to complain.

Why, exactly?

[SyntaxVorlon]

Bush has shown an invariable ability to run everything he is put in charge of into the ground. And you want to give him the chance to do whatever he wants without fear of not getting the next term, because he can't. Hello Patriot 3, goodbye civil rights. Hello deficit economy, hello high defense spending, goodbye meaningful social programs, goodbye sane fiscal policy.
Hello faith based initiatives, hello further alienation of allies, goodbye international goodwill, goodbye precident for Geneva protections.

[The Cleric]

If you don't vote, then you have no right to complain.

Why, exactly?

I saw it on a bumper sticker once. Actually, it was in a Dilbert comic. But don't tell anyone.

[Ma Deuce]

If you don't vote, then you have no right to complain.

Why, exactly?

I saw it on a bumper sticker once. Actually, it was in a Dilbert comic. But don't tell anyone.

So in other words, you don't really have a good reason, do you?

[The Cleric]

So in other words, you don't really have a good reason, do you?

I have very little reason for anything I do. So no, I don't.

[Beowulf]

If you don't vote, then you have no right to complain.

Why, exactly?

If you don't vote then you can't possibly change the outcome. If you don't vote, you are quite literally throwing your vote away.

[Joe]

So why does that mean I can't complain if I don't vote? Just because I refuse to choose the shiniest, prettiest, and least smelly piece of shit out of a room full of corn logs doesn't mean I can't bitch about the fact that the room is full of shit.

[Howedar]

I vote Republican because I was raised Republican. It appeals to my innner sense of rightness and what's left of my morality. I don't have numbers or hard proof to back up my opinions, so I leave them as that. Opinions. That's why I don't go out and try to convince people to vote one way or the other, I prefer to let the Irony God's sort things out.

A vote decided by another is no vote at all.

[Shadow WarChief]

So why does that mean I can't complain if I don't vote? Just because I refuse to choose the shiniest, prettiest, and least smelly piece of shit out of a room full of corn logs doesn't mean I can't bitch about the fact that the room is full of shit.

But it does mean that you can't bitch when the smelliest piece of diarhea gets splattered on your head instead when you had the choice to choose something not as objectionable.

Voting is complaining with teeth. You get a chance to actually DO something about your gripes. You can show your disatisfaction. By waving your right to complain in the voting booth, where it actually matters, you can't complain later because you failed to actually do something about it.

A thirsty man has no right to complain about his thirst when there's some beer in the fridge in the other room.

[Perinquus]

You won't consider a 3rd party candidate? You'd rather reelect someone who is arguably the worst president in America's history?

This statement shows a lack of historical perspective. As I have said elsewhere, Bush is probably the most unsatisfactory Republican president since Herbert Hoover. However, you will have to go to some lengths to persuade me that he is worse than Jimmy Carter, Lyndon B. Johnson (especially Lyndon B. Johnson), Warren G. Harding, Ulysses S. Grant, or Andrew Jackson.

[CJvR]

I heard some of his speach at the Democrat convention and despite reasonably intresting content of his speach he almost managed to put me to sleep. You can get away with it among your fanaticaly loyal followers but not out among the undecided.
Listening to him reminded me of the old Center-party apparatnik who could put a raging riot to sleep simply by holding a speach.
Not being GWB will get him a bit but hardly all the way to the Whitehouse, perhaps his VP candidate can keep the voters awake and save him...

[Spyder]

Not being GWB will get him a bit but hardly all the way to the Whitehouse, perhaps his VP candidate can keep the voters awake and save him...

What you're forgetting is that the advantage of not being George W Bush is compounded by the fact that his opponant has the disadvantage of being George W Bush.

[CJvR]

What you're forgetting is that the advantage of not being George W Bush is compounded by the fact that his opponant has the disadvantage of being George W Bush.

LOL!

[Andrew J.]

This statement shows a lack of historical perspective. As I have said elsewhere, Bush is probably the most unsatisfactory Republican president since Herbert Hoover. However, you will have to go to some lengths to persuade me that he is worse than Jimmy Carter, Lyndon B. Johnson (especially Lyndon B. Johnson), Warren G. Harding, Ulysses S. Grant, or Andrew Jackson.

I don't see Nixon on that list.

[Cao Cao]

Bush is not the worst President in the history of America.
He's the worst President in the history of the world.
I'm not American, yet because of his actions I live in a world that's far less safe than it was when he began his Presidency.
He messed up America and he messed up it's allies, especially with witless sycophants like Blair following him like a poodle.