What Questions Do You Want Answered in RotS?

Dorsk 81 · Post by **Dorsk 81** » 2004-08-04 11:20pm

Quite simple, what question do you want RotS to answer? The other films left a few questions, like:

How did Palpatine get trained in the arts of the Sith and who trained him?

Who placed the order for the clone army? Was it under the orders of Palpatine or did Sifo-Dyas see a vision and place the order?

Why was Jango choosen to be the the template for the clones?

Why was Luke or Leia or both not left with Yoda or Obi Wan to train fully on becoming a Jedi to defeat Vader and Palpatine?

So, what questions would you like to see answered?

EDIT: Oh and one that I want answered, why was it Qui Gons voice saying "Anakin! Anakin! No-o-o!" in Yodas vision?

The Cleric · Post by **The Cleric** » 2004-08-04 11:23pm

Why GL has sold out so hard-core.

Post by **Gandalf** » 2004-08-04 11:24pm

Maybe why Luke/Leia were split up.

Praxis · Post by **Praxis** » 2004-08-04 11:56pm

I just want to see something that proves, without a doubt, that Star Wars would whoop Star Trek. Yes, I know we already know that, but I want to see something that even the Trekkies can't deny

Maybe a BDZ?

What I'd like to find out is why Caamas was destroyed (maybe they said it in one of the books and I forgot, but if I recall, Bothan spies disabled the generator so palpatine could have it destroyed...WHY did he want it destroyed though?).

Dorsk 81 · Post by **Dorsk 81** » 2004-08-04 11:58pm

Praxis wrote:What I'd like to find out is why Caamas was destroyed (maybe they said it in one of the books and I forgot, but if I recall, Bothan spies disabled the generator so palpatine could have it destroyed...WHY did he want it destroyed though?).

I think it explains it all in the Hand of Thrawn Duology, can't remember though, been awhile since I read it. I think it had something to do with them opposing the Empire and hoarding Rebels or something like that, but like I said, it's been awhile since I read it so I'm probably wrong.

Stofsk · Post by **Stofsk** » 2004-08-04 11:59pm

Dorsk 81 wrote:Why was Luke or Leia or both not left with Yoda or Obi Wan to train fully on becoming a Jedi to defeat Vader and Palpatine?

That would have made sense, to be honest. For them to be both trained as Jedi.

The only answer I can think of was both Obi-wan and Yoda were disillusioned with the Jedi order as it was falling... and so sought refuge. It still doesn't excuse either one for being derelict in their duties. Both Luke and Leia could have been powerful Jedi - Luke caught on pretty quick to rudimentary Jedi skills while they were heading for Alderaan, while Leia seemed able to use Jedi skills instinctively (picking up Luke's psychic distress call at Bespin), and yet neither one was trained even though the PT explicitly mentions the younger you start the better the training.

I just think the death and destruction of the War and the Jedi was too much for either one of them. Yoda probably blamed himself for not seeing the folly of the Jedi way (at the time), and not being able to sense the Sith Ascendancy in clearer detail, so he retreats to isolation in an attempt to 're-aquaint' himself with it. Obi-wan, after 'killing' Anakin, and maybe Padme indirectly (perhaps she was caught in the crossfire, which may be the impetus for the duel...), probably thinks to himself "I such as a teacher" and simply retreats into isolation in a remote corner of the galaxy where no-one would be hurt or caught in between if hunter-killers come after him.

This STILL doesn't explain why the twins were separated. They (Vader and Palpatine) didn't know Anakin had offspring to begin with, so separating them to 'protect' them is a stupid excuse. If they had been sent to isolation then they could have been trained in secret. Why does Ben give Luke over to Owen? Why does Leia go to Bail Organa? These are questions that are in sore need of answering...

One other possibility is that the twins weren't separated by choice, but by necessity. For some reason. Maybe they were attacked and had to split up?

Well, we'll find out next year I guess...

Post by **Gandalf** » 2004-08-05 01:23am

Stofsk wrote:
Dorsk 81 wrote:Why was Luke or Leia or both not left with Yoda or Obi Wan to train fully on becoming a Jedi to defeat Vader and Palpatine?
SNIP

Perhaps Ben/Yoda felt that they might not be able to protect them from the growing Empire?

So by seperating them and keeping them as non-Jedi; they won't try to fight Vader and run the risk of being corrupted.

Of course this theory is completely shot by the events of the OT.

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2004-08-05 02:21am

Dorsk 81 wrote:
Praxis wrote:What I'd like to find out is why Caamas was destroyed (maybe they said it in one of the books and I forgot, but if I recall, Bothan spies disabled the generator so palpatine could have it destroyed...WHY did he want it destroyed though?).
I think it explains it all in the Hand of Thrawn Duology, can't remember though, been awhile since I read it. I think it had something to do with them opposing the Empire and hoarding Rebels or something like that, but like I said, it's been awhile since I read it so I'm probably wrong.

Caamas was destroyed because they were hard-core pacificists and would have solidly opposed the nascent Empire. And because they were respected moral leaders and a rather influential people because of that they had to be removed.

Post by **Vympel** » 2004-08-05 02:24am

Dorsk 81 wrote:How did Palpatine get trained in the arts of the Sith and who trained him?

That would kill the mystery. I'd rather not know.

Who placed the order for the clone army? Was it under the orders of Palpatine or did Sifo-Dyas see a vision and place the order?

It's pretty clear to me that it was Count Dooku/ Darth Tyranus impersonating Sifo-Dyas. Notice Jango Fett freely admits he was hired for the cloning job by "a man called Tyranus."

Why was Jango choosen to be the the template for the clones?

Does this really need to be answered? He was a good fighter.

Why was Luke or Leia or both not left with Yoda or Obi Wan to train fully on becoming a Jedi to defeat Vader and Palpatine?

Good point.

So, what questions would you like to see answered?

Hrm- none, really.

EDIT: Oh and one that I want answered, why was it Qui Gons voice saying "Anakin! Anakin! No-o-o!" in Yodas vision?

Yes, Lucas has admitted that.

Galvatron · Post by **Galvatron** » 2004-08-05 02:32am

How and when Padme dies. Leia's memory indicates that she survives ROTS.

This is a major dilemma for Lucas, IMO. Does he kill off Padme in ROTS, thereby conflicting with ROTJ? Or does he have her die sometime later, off-screen, thereby denying the audience any definite closure to her character's story?

Also, why did Qui-Gon vanish when he died like Yoda and Obi-Wan do? This was never answered in AOTC as Lucas indicated it would be. Or did I miss something?

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2004-08-05 02:35am

Galvatron wrote:How and when Padme dies. Leia's memory indicates that she survives ROTS.

This is a major dilemma for Lucas, IMO. Does he kill off Padme in ROTS, thereby conflicting with ROTJ? Or does he have her die sometime later, off-screen, thereby denying the audience any definite closure to her character's story?

Actually, there's not necessarily any conflict. It seems very like (and is in fact reinforced by the EU) that she was speaking of her adopted mother who died when she was very young. So there doesn't seem to be any contradiction there.

Post by **Gandalf** » 2004-08-05 02:35am

Galvatron wrote:How and when Padme dies. Leia's memory indicates that she survives ROTS.

This is a major dilemma for Lucas, IMO. Does he kill off Padme in ROTS, thereby conflicting with ROTJ? Or does he have her die sometime later, off-screen, thereby denying the audience any definite closure to her character's story?

Theoretically you could have both. Has there been much on if young Luke/Leia were in ROTS?

Galvatron · Post by **Galvatron** » 2004-08-05 02:37am

Stormbringer wrote:Actually, there's not necessarily any conflict. It seems very like (and is in fact reinforced by the EU) that she was speaking of her adopted mother who died when she was very young. So there doesn't seem to be any contradiction there.

Luke asked her about her real mother, which also indicates that Leia knew she was adopted. Why would she ignore his question and tell him about her adopted mother instead?

Post by **RogueIce** » 2004-08-05 02:40am

The Midichlorians. It was said that would be explained. But they seemingly forgot about it except for one line in AotC. I want to know, damn it. A firm explanation.

Post by **Gandalf** » 2004-08-05 02:43am

RogueIce wrote:The Midichlorians. It was said that would be explained. But they seemingly forgot about it except for one line in AotC. I want to know, damn it. A firm explanation.

Where was that in AoTC?

Galvatron · Post by **Galvatron** » 2004-08-05 02:49am

RogueIce wrote:The Midichlorians. It was said that would be explained. But they seemingly forgot about it except for one line in AotC. I want to know, damn it. A firm explanation.

IMO, the explanation for the midichlorians is better left unsaid. Anything further would only compound the problem.

If anything, I'd much rather see a dissertation by Curtis about them in some future non-fiction book than have any further screentime devoted to them whatsoever. At least that way we're more likely to get a plausible and sensible explanation.

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2004-08-05 02:54am

Galvatron wrote:
Stormbringer wrote:Actually, there's not necessarily any conflict. It seems very like (and is in fact reinforced by the EU) that she was speaking of her adopted mother who died when she was very young. So there doesn't seem to be any contradiction there.
Luke asked her about her real mother, which also indicates that Leia knew she was adopted. Why would she ignore his question and tell him about her adopted mother instead?

I don't remember exactly how Luke asked her.

And given that we're talking about memories from her earliest childhood it's entirely possible that it's Ms Organa she's speaking about. After all, she was adopted at or close after birth and so it's not impossible she regarded Bail Organa's wife as her mother, regardless of biology. Certainly she's got sentiments in expressed in Truce at Bakura and in the TTT that suggest she considers Bail Organa her real father.

Galvatron · Post by **Galvatron** » 2004-08-05 03:51am

Stormbringer wrote:I don't remember exactly how Luke asked her.

A direct transcript from ROTJ:SE...

Leia: "Luke, what's wrong?"
Luke: "Leia. Do you remember your mother? Your real mother?"
Leia: "Just a little bit. She died when I was very young."
Luke: "What do you remember?"
Leia: "Just...images, really. Feelings."
Luke: "Tell me."
Leia: "She was...very beautiful...kind, but...sad. Why are you asking me this?"
Luke: "I have no memory of my mother. I never knew her."

Stormbringer wrote:And given that we're talking about memories from her earliest childhood it's entirely possible that it's Ms Organa she's speaking about. After all, she was adopted at or close after birth and so it's not impossible she regarded Bail Organa's wife as her mother, regardless of biology. Certainly she's got sentiments in expressed in Truce at Bakura and in the TTT that suggest she considers Bail Organa her real father.

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Chris OFarrell · Post by **Chris OFarrell** » 2004-08-05 03:54am

Stormbringer wrote:
Galvatron wrote:
Stormbringer wrote:Actually, there's not necessarily any conflict. It seems very like (and is in fact reinforced by the EU) that she was speaking of her adopted mother who died when she was very young. So there doesn't seem to be any contradiction there.
Luke asked her about her real mother, which also indicates that Leia knew she was adopted. Why would she ignore his question and tell him about her adopted mother instead?
I don't remember exactly how Luke asked her.

"Leia do you remember your mother? Your REAL mother?"

Dorsk 81 · Post by **Dorsk 81** » 2004-08-05 05:42am

Vympel wrote:
EDIT: Oh and one that I want answered, why was it Qui Gons voice saying "Anakin! Anakin! No-o-o!" in Yodas vision?
Yes, Lucas has admitted that.

Yep, even on the comentray of the AotC DVD is says "[Qui Gon Jinn]Anakin! Anakin! No-o-o!" But why Qui Gon? I'd have thought it would have made more sense to be a Jedi that Anakin is going to kill or duel with, like Obi Wan.

Post by **Gandalf** » 2004-08-05 05:53am

Dorsk 81 wrote:
Vympel wrote:
EDIT: Oh and one that I want answered, why was it Qui Gons voice saying "Anakin! Anakin! No-o-o!" in Yodas vision?
Yes, Lucas has admitted that.
Yep, even on the comentray of the AotC DVD is says "[Qui Gon Jinn]Anakin! Anakin! No-o-o!" But why Qui Gon? I'd have thought it would have made more sense to be a Jedi that Anakin is going to kill or duel with, like Obi Wan.

Could be because he was the first one to see Anakin. Since he was now dead and "with the Force" he might have been watching Anakin.

Praxis · Post by **Praxis** » 2004-08-05 11:30am

Galvatron wrote:How and when Padme dies. Leia's memory indicates that she survives ROTS.

This is a major dilemma for Lucas, IMO. Does he kill off Padme in ROTS, thereby conflicting with ROTJ? Or does he have her die sometime later, off-screen, thereby denying the audience any definite closure to her character's story?

How does Leia's memory indicate she survives? All it indicates is that she lived long enough to give birth to Leia...maybe take care of her for a couple weeks?

I can't wait to see how Padme dies. I couldn't STAND her acting, or the 'love scenes'.

Tsyroc · Post by **Tsyroc** » 2004-08-05 11:35am

Who erased Geonosis from the Jedi Archive?

-- low odds guess probably makes it Dooku before he left the order.

Presumably Dooku killed and impersonated Sifo Dyas, could it have been someone else in either instance?

Was Qui Gon involved in any of what Dooku was doing. If he was sympathetic to Dooku's political aims he might have been the one who deleted Geonosis from the Jedi Archive?

Are there going to be any good twists in the plot/story?

Mange · Post by **Mange** » 2004-08-05 12:10pm

Since I'm such a huge fan of Ian McDiarmid, I hope we get more answers about the background of Palpatine / Sidious (not all the details though).

Galvatron · Post by **Galvatron** » 2004-08-05 01:34pm

I hope they spare us needless exposition and concentrate on telling the damned story.

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