Marriage Admendment:Missouri
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Marriage Admendment:Missouri
Results are partially in: 60% for the admendment 40% against. "Stating that marriage is between a man and a woman".
These are partial results so it may get closer as the large urban areas get tallied.
Still a loss though for gay rights activists.
http://www.sos.mo.gov/enrweb/ballotissu ... sp?eid=116
for up to date reults.
As I commented on another forum, the results being this close in Missouri make me think that a similar admendment won't get passed in Mass.
These are partial results so it may get closer as the large urban areas get tallied.
Still a loss though for gay rights activists.
http://www.sos.mo.gov/enrweb/ballotissu ... sp?eid=116
for up to date reults.
As I commented on another forum, the results being this close in Missouri make me think that a similar admendment won't get passed in Mass.
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Well, it is Missouri. When this sort of thing passes in a state like New York or California, then we are a theocracy.Darth Wong wrote:And people still claim that the US is not a theocracy.
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The structure of the US government is not religious, but many of the people in the US ARE religious, creating an interesting conflict.Hamel wrote:If one doesn't consider the country a theocracy, then they still have to admit that millions of americans, deep in their hearts, want such a thing.Darth Wong wrote:And people still claim that the US is not a theocracy.
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The Missouri amendemnt process requires only a simple majority?
Though currently it's 72/27.
Though currently it's 72/27.
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So, Missouri is full of people with cow shit between their ears rather than brain cells....and this bodes well for anyone?Talon Karrde wrote:70% of the vote is a pretty resounding majority. I think you could also look at this and see clearly how conservative Missouri is becoming, and I also believe that bodes well for George W. Bush.
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I'm trying to find the point in your statement.Keevan_Colton wrote:So, Missouri is full of people with cow shit between their ears rather than brain cells....and this bodes well for anyone?Talon Karrde wrote:70% of the vote is a pretty resounding majority. I think you could also look at this and see clearly how conservative Missouri is becoming, and I also believe that bodes well for George W. Bush.
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The fact this bullshit has no basis outside stupid-head-up-ass-christian-bigotry and it's being passed shows that basically you have a theocracy full of fucking morons on your hands in Missouri. Though given the fact you're a fucking retard this would of course seem to be a plus point to you.Talon Karrde wrote:I'm trying to find the point in your statement.Keevan_Colton wrote: So, Missouri is full of people with cow shit between their ears rather than brain cells....and this bodes well for anyone?
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Well thanks for the blatant flame. That helps your argument tremendously.Keevan_Colton wrote:The fact this bullshit has no basis outside stupid-head-up-ass-christian-bigotry and it's being passed shows that basically you have a theocracy full of fucking morons on your hands in Missouri. Though given the fact you're a fucking retard this would of course seem to be a plus point to you.Talon Karrde wrote:I'm trying to find the point in your statement.Keevan_Colton wrote: So, Missouri is full of people with cow shit between their ears rather than brain cells....and this bodes well for anyone?
When 70% of the voters vote to ban gay marriage, I would say that they have their "head up their ass." Seems they are a bit more main-stream than you.
Interesting that just because you disagree with 70% of them, they immediately become "fucking morons." Hmmm.... kinda like me huh?
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The south wanted to keep slavery, didnt change the fact it made them a bunch of shit heads. I'm sick fed up of shitty little chrisitian assholes fucking up others lives in the name of an almighty sky pixie, you have demonstrated time and again here you're one of these shitheads. The equal protection clause exists to stop this sort of shit from happening yet you fundamentalist fuck-heads love to piss all over the rights of others so it is hardly suprising.
As for my statment about them having shit for brains, the old saying if it walks like a duck... springs to mind.
As for my statment about them having shit for brains, the old saying if it walks like a duck... springs to mind.
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Homosexuality is a lifestyle, being black is not, thats just the color of your skin. The left loves to make martrys out of homosexuals, your just another example of that.Keevan_Colton wrote:The south wanted to keep slavery, didnt change the fact it made them a bunch of shit heads. I'm sick fed up of shitty little chrisitian assholes fucking up others lives in the name of an almighty sky pixie, you have demonstrated time and again here you're one of these shitheads. The equal protection clause exists to stop this sort of shit from happening yet you fundamentalist fuck-heads love to piss all over the rights of others so it is hardly suprising.
As for my statment about them having shit for brains, the old saying if it walks like a duck... springs to mind.
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Get to fuck you insipid little piece of fucking worm jism.Talon Karrde wrote:Homosexuality is a lifestyle, being black is not, thats just the color of your skin. The left loves to make martrys out of homosexuals, your just another example of that.
I am sick fed up of fucking assholes like you looking to shit on others because of something in a book supposedly written by a schizo sky pixie.
Come on shit head, give a valid reason for this ammendment other than fucking "God said so!"
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Homosexuality is who you have sex with you idiot. There's more to a lifestyle than that.Talon Karrde wrote:Homosexuality is a lifestyle, being black is not, thats just the color of your skin. The left loves to make martrys out of homosexuals, your just another example of that.
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Yeah, mob rule by fundamentalist christworshippers has worked out really well every single time in the past.Talon Karrde wrote:Well thanks for the blatant flame. That helps your argument tremendously.
When 70% of the voters vote to ban gay marriage, I would say that they have their "head up their ass." Seems they are a bit more main-stream than you.
Interesting that just because you disagree with 70% of them, they immediately become "fucking morons." Hmmm.... kinda like me huh?
By the same token, so is heterosexuality, which must mean it's ok to deny some rights to heterosexuals for no reason other than some arse-backward magic-man story says so.Homosexuality is a lifestyle
Christworshippers like you love to take away the rights of others, fuck equality when you've got a chance to enforce your demigod given rights over minorities. Oh, they fuck the same gender, the bible doesn't like that, let's refuse them equal rights under the law.The left loves to make martrys out of homosexuals, your just another example of that.
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Hey TK, what is so frightening about the "EVIL" Homosexual to you that you have to repeatedly fling yourself at them in rage and hate only to get beaten back with logic and true morality, the kind that doesn't or couldn't ever come from a book written by committee but that which flows from the heart of a real honest-to-Gods human who's been raised to believe everyone has certain inalienable rights?
Hey TK, what is so frightening about the "EVIL" Homosexual to you that you have to repeatedly fling yourself at them in rage and hate only to get beaten back with logic and true morality, the kind that doesn't or couldn't ever come from a book written by committee but that which flows from the heart of a real honest-to-Gods human who's been raised to believe everyone has certain inalienable rights?
Lets see...because the voters in Missouri wanted it.Keevan_Colton wrote:... give a valid reason for this ammendment other than fucking "God said so!"
I'm actually grateful that this will set up a constitutional challange that will force the SCOTUS to put the gay marriage issue to bed once and for all.
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It likely won't. Conservatives will just cry "Judicial Activism!" when that happens and the issue won't be put to rest, because I'm sure that some members of the Senate would keep pushing for a Constitutional Amendment to ban gay marriage federally.Augustus wrote:Lets see...because the voters in Missouri wanted it.
I'm actually grateful that this will set up a constitutional challange that will force the SCOTUS to put the gay marriage issue to bed once and for all.
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See my earlier point that the people of missouri are therefore, at least in terms of the majority, suffering from an excess of cowshit where their brains are meant to be.Augustus wrote:Lets see...because the voters in Missouri wanted it.
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Wasn't 'judicial activism' precisely what the SCOTUS is there for? The U.S. government is designed the way it is to make sure power doesn't run unchecked into one single person or governmental body. Nice to see that the damn racists/homophobes/just-plain-Evil sons of bitches in the guvmint are sucessfully derailing the Checks and Balances system...Gil Hamilton wrote:It likely won't. Conservatives will just cry "Judicial Activism!" when that happens and the issue won't be put to rest, because I'm sure that some members of the Senate would keep pushing for a Constitutional Amendment to ban gay marriage federally.Augustus wrote:Lets see...because the voters in Missouri wanted it.
I'm actually grateful that this will set up a constitutional challange that will force the SCOTUS to put the gay marriage issue to bed once and for all.
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Don't railgun the messanger, my friend, but that's exactly what they'll say. I'm not saying I agree with them, just making a prediction.Einhander Sn0m4n wrote:Wasn't 'judicial activism' precisely what the SCOTUS is there for? The U.S. government is designed the way it is to make sure power doesn't run unchecked into one single person or governmental body. Nice to see that the damn racists/homophobes/just-plain-Evil sons of bitches in the guvmint are sucessfully derailing the Checks and Balances system...
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Notice how at no point does the trolling idiot actually provide a shred of evidence for his claim that homosexuality is a mere "lifestyle" rather than an uncontrollable instinct in the homosexual. Instead, he merely derides any opposition to his claim as "left" and dismisses it on that basis.Talon Karrde wrote:Homosexuality is a lifestyle, being black is not, thats just the color of your skin. The left loves to make martrys out of homosexuals, your just another example of that.
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