John Kerry's hipocracy

[Talon Karrde]

Most people already know about Kerry saying that he would have handled the way he would have tooken the news of terrorist attacks while he was in front of a class of students. He has currently said that the he would have handled it much differently than Bush. Funny thing...



Here's what the Massachusetts Democrat said July 8 when Larry King asked where he was on 9/11, according to CNN's own transcript:



"I was in the Capitol. We'd just had a meeting - we'd just come into a leadership meeting in Tom Daschle's office, looking out at the Capitol. And as I came in, Barbara Boxer and Harry Reid were standing there, and we watched the second plane come in to the building. And we shortly thereafter sat down at the table and then we just realized nobody could think, and then boom, right behind us, we saw the cloud of explosion at the Pentagon. And then word came from the White House, they were evacuating, and we were to evacuate, and so we immediately began the evacuation."



The second plane hit the World Trade Center at 9:03 a.m., and the plane hit the Pentagon at 9:43 a.m. By Kerry's own words, he and his fellow senators sat there for forty minutes, realizing 'nobody could think.





Sounds a bit hypocritical, wouldn't you say?

[SirNitram]

Sounds a bit hypocritical, wouldn't you say?

Sounds a bit desperate, to be honest. As someone actually near the effected area, I can attest to the fact that people fifty miles away simply 'couldn't think', and that was just from seeing an entire city vanish in a smoke cloud across the Sound.

In other words, the latest VI proves his title in an attempt to try and regain ground in the face of Bush being openly hypocritical on something. It's like VeritasKnight...

[Iceberg]

John Kerry's "Hipocracy"? Is that anything like Tony Blair's "Cool Brittania" ideas?

[Galvatron]

Sounds a bit hypocritical, wouldn't you say?

Kerry wasn't the president and commander-in-chief of the military.

[Talon Karrde]

Sounds a bit hypocritical, wouldn't you say?

Sounds a bit desperate, to be honest. As someone actually near the effected area, I can attest to the fact that people fifty miles away simply 'couldn't think', and that was just from seeing an entire city vanish in a smoke cloud across the Sound.

In other words, the latest VI proves his title in an attempt to try and regain ground in the face of Bush being openly hypocritical on something. It's like VeritasKnight...

I'm sorry, Im not trying to be sarcastic here, but I truly don't see what you mean. First off, you say, "sounds a bit desperate." How is it desperate? Kerry said this to Larry King. Then when he's asked how he would have handled it, he says he would have immediately gotten up and told the kids he had important business to attend to? If he was sitting there "unable to think" as he said, how on earth does he propose he does that?

As for the second and third paragraph of your statement, can you explain that? Im not sure I understand what you mean. How does this make Bush hypocritical?

[Talon Karrde]

Sounds a bit hypocritical, wouldn't you say?

Kerry wasn't the president and commander-in-chief of the military.

So your trying to say that he would have responded quickly when he himself said, "we just realized nobody could think." ?

[SirNitram]

Sounds a bit hypocritical, wouldn't you say?

Sounds a bit desperate, to be honest. As someone actually near the effected area, I can attest to the fact that people fifty miles away simply 'couldn't think', and that was just from seeing an entire city vanish in a smoke cloud across the Sound.

In other words, the latest VI proves his title in an attempt to try and regain ground in the face of Bush being openly hypocritical on something. It's like VeritasKnight...

I'm sorry, Im not trying to be sarcastic here, but I truly don't see what you mean. First off, you say, "sounds a bit desperate." How is it desperate? Kerry said this to Larry King. Then when he's asked how he would have handled it, he says he would have immediately gotten up and told the kids he had important business to attend to? If he was sitting there "unable to think" as he said, how on earth does he propose he does that?

Well, for those of us with a functioning frontal lobe, we realize that being in the direct vicinity of this event and in a likely target will severely impact your ability to make rational decisions. The President, where he was(And presumably where Kerry assumes he would have been) was in neither of those places, changing things signifigantly.

It sounds desperate because, of course, you are desperate to try and make Kerry out as a hypocrit to perform a Golden Mean.

As for the second and third paragraph of your statement, can you explain that? Im not sure I understand what you mean. How does this make Bush hypocritical?

It doesn't; other threads show Bush's hypocrisy adequetely. I was pointing out that even fifty miles away most people were too heavily effected to react instantly, as they apparently do in your action-movie addled view of reality.

[Keevan_Colton]

As for the second and third paragraph of your statement, can you explain that? Im not sure I understand what you mean. How does this make Bush hypocritical?

And like a true dipshit VI he cannot figure out that there are only 2 not 3 paragraphs there in total.

2 < 3, okay?

[Talon Karrde]

lol. Seems to me when Kerry is called upon something, liberals can't stand it. Why is it you must defend EVERYTHING the man does? Your thinking this hit Kerry harder than it hit Bush? Excuse me, but being the President of a country that was just attacked would put you in a damn pressure filled situation.

[Talon Karrde]

As for the second and third paragraph of your statement, can you explain that? Im not sure I understand what you mean. How does this make Bush hypocritical?

And like a true dipshit VI he cannot figure out that there are only 2 not 3 paragraphs there in total.

2 < 3, okay?

Holy shit, crucify me for miscounting.

[SirNitram]

lol. Seems to me when Kerry is called upon something, liberals can't stand it.

I'm sorry, you're confused. When Bush is called on hypocrisy, the conservatives start making things up and get snippy when they're revealed to be full of the brown stuff.

Why is it you must defend EVERYTHING the man does? Your thinking this hit Kerry harder than it hit Bush?

Given he was standing in the biggest goddamn target in the nation in the midst of a major assault...... Yes. Anyone who was actually in the targetted cities or in their metro areas comprehends this relatively easily, assuming they are equipped with a brain.

Excuse me, but being the President of a country that was just attacked would put you in a damn pressure filled situation.

But he was not in the direct danger those in D.C. were, given the extreme measures the US(Understandably, of course) goes to to protect the C-i-C.

So, with your complete lack of a rebuttal, I will accept your concession.

[Darth Wong]

Moron Karrde, you're pathetic. Kerry says they couldn't think; how does this mean "I would have sat there reading to a bunch of kids instead of making some excuse to get up and leave?"

Only a blithering idiot would actually consider that "hypocrisy". It's not even a contradiction. When you're so flustered that you can't think, the last thing you're going to do is carry through on some public-relations event.

What kind of imbecile would interpret this as a contradiction?

[Talon Karrde]

lol. Seems to me when Kerry is called upon something, liberals can't stand it.

I'm sorry, you're confused. When Bush is called on hypocrisy, the conservatives start making things up and get snippy when they're revealed to be full of the brown stuff.

Why is it you must defend EVERYTHING the man does? Your thinking this hit Kerry harder than it hit Bush?

Given he was standing in the biggest goddamn target in the nation in the midst of a major assault...... Yes. Anyone who was actually in the targetted cities or in their metro areas comprehends this relatively easily, assuming they are equipped with a brain.

Excuse me, but being the President of a country that was just attacked would put you in a damn pressure filled situation.

But he was not in the direct danger those in D.C. were, given the extreme measures the US(Understandably, of course) goes to to protect the C-i-C.

So, with your complete lack of a rebuttal, I will accept your concession.

This is why I rarely frequent this board (which pleases most all here). Your way of debating is to try and demean the person trying to make a point, trying to make it look like the only motive is to pull down Kerry. I'm trying to make a fair point here, but you won't let it be done.

As for not being in direct danger, I'm thinking the President of the United States is a pretty big target in himself. Why exactly do you think we were shipping Cheney and Bush to different isolated positions during and after the attacks?

[Stravo]

Maybe instead of starting new worthless threads and running from the spankings you've been getting here:

Marriage Amendment:Missouri

Kerry v. Bush (Again)

We don't do Politics in Homeland Security

Osama Bin Laden wants Kerry to Win


you should start trying to counter people's arguments and at least make it look like you have some functioning brain cells. Starting off by knowing how to spell hypocrisy would be a nice beginning.

How do you compare a Senator who has no say in how the nation will respond because he's not the COMMANDER IN CHIEF to the president reading about Billy the motherfucking goat for seven minutes while Americans died you fucking cumstain?

[Talon Karrde]

Moron Karrde, you're pathetic. Kerry says they couldn't think; how does this mean "I would have sat there reading to a bunch of kids instead of making some excuse to get up and leave?"

Only a blithering idiot would actually consider that "hypocrisy". It's not even a contradiction. When you're so flustered that you can't think, the last thing you're going to do is carry through on some public-relations event.

What kind of imbecile would interpret this as a contradiction?

Your another example Wong of those who thinks to win their argument, they must first target my intelligence by flaming me into the ground. News flash, when I'm already outnumbered 5-1 by liberals wishing to debate me, this isn't necessary.

My point is simple: How can Kerry question the President's actions during 5 minutes of time, when he himself said he "couldn't think."

[Darth Wong]

Moron Karrde, you're pathetic. Kerry says they couldn't think; how does this mean "I would have sat there reading to a bunch of kids instead of making some excuse to get up and leave?"

Only a blithering idiot would actually consider that "hypocrisy". It's not even a contradiction. When you're so flustered that you can't think, the last thing you're going to do is carry through on some public-relations event.

What kind of imbecile would interpret this as a contradiction?

Your another example Wong of those who thinks to win their argument, they must first target my intelligence by flaming me into the ground. News flash, when I'm already outnumbered 5-1 by liberals wishing to debate me, this isn't necessary.

More of Moron Karrde ignoring the point. Read it again, dumbshit. Only an imbecile would fall for your "one insult invalidates any and all arguments to which it is attached" logic.

My point is simple: How can Kerry question the President's actions during 5 minutes of time, when he himself said he "couldn't think."

Your point was already answered, moron.

[SirNitram]

This is why I rarely frequent this board (which pleases most all here). Your way of debating is to try and demean the person trying to make a point, trying to make it look like the only motive is to pull down Kerry. I'm trying to make a fair point here, but you won't let it be done.

I'm not the one who evaded the counter entirely and repeated his stance like it is evidence.

You can throw up style-over-substance fallacies all you like, kiddo. When you're ready to make a real point instead of whining about liberals, let me know.

As for not being in direct danger, I'm thinking the President of the United States is a pretty big target in himself. Why exactly do you think we were shipping Cheney and Bush to different isolated positions during and after the attacks?

That would make them much harder to target than a bunch of people in a building that sits on D.C. like a nipple on a tit, wouldn't it? That would decrease the likelihood of them being killed, wouldn't it? Why yes, it would. You're just too stupid to get what's been repeatedly explained.

Fuck off until you're ready to debate, kiddo, instead of whining about how the board is big and bad and evil.

[Talon Karrde]

&highlight=] you should start trying to counter people's arguments and at least make it look like you have some functioning brain cells. Starting off by knowing how to spell hypocrisy would be a nice beginning.

How do you compare a Senator who has no say in how the nation will respond because he's not the COMMANDER IN CHIEF to the president reading about Billy the motherfucking goat for seven minutes while Americans died you fucking cumstain?

If you read my entire post, perhaps you'll notice I spelled hypocrisy correctly. Are you all seriously so up-tight that someone can't mistype or mispell a word and that immediately tears down a point? Wow.

Stravo, if Kerry wasn't in a pressure filled situation, as the president was, and he still couldn't think, why do you think he would think any more clearly when loads of pressure are immediately put upon him?

[Darth Wong]

This is why I rarely frequent this board (which pleases most all here). Your way of debating is to try and demean the person trying to make a point, trying to make it look like the only motive is to pull down Kerry. I'm trying to make a fair point here, but you won't let it be done.

No, our way of debating is to point out when someone repeatedly says stupid things, and then to conclude that the person is stupid for saying it. Your problem is that whenever you are caught saying stupid things, you scream bloody murder that someone dared to call it stupid, rather than defending it or conceding the point.

[Darth Wong]

Stravo, if Kerry wasn't in a pressure filled situation, as the president was, and he still couldn't think, why do you think he would think any more clearly when loads of pressure are immediately put upon him?

Moron, when do you think you'll get around to answering my point that if you are so stressed that you can't think straight, you are LESS likely to carry through with a public-relations function?

[Talon Karrde]

This is why I rarely frequent this board (which pleases most all here). Your way of debating is to try and demean the person trying to make a point, trying to make it look like the only motive is to pull down Kerry. I'm trying to make a fair point here, but you won't let it be done.

No, our way of debating is to point out when someone repeatedly says stupid things, and then to conclude that the person is stupid for saying it. Your problem is that whenever you are caught saying stupid things, you scream bloody murder that someone dared to call it stupid, rather than defending it or conceding the point.

What's funny is when I say I think something is hypocritcal, you and others immediately scream at me, "MORON!" "STUPID!" BTW, that is all I said. I said, I think that it is hypocritcal, and from the one small opinion I get, "Your a fucking moron," and "your earning your title of VI." What I have pointed out I believe to be an interesting fact, others take to be not so intersting. So what? Why because I find something to be of more importance than you does this immediately brand me and "idiot?"

[Stravo]

If you read my entire post, perhaps you'll notice I spelled hypocrisy correctly. Are you all seriously so up-tight that someone can't mistype or mispell a word and that immediately tears down a point? Wow.

MY GOD, look at the TITLE of your fucking thread jackass. And thanks for once again side stepping the spankings you've been getting everywhere you go on your Grand Tour of Stupidity on SD.Net. You never are going to go back and deal with the counter arguments are you? You're going to keep on chugging like a retarded monkey with a football helmet on banging your head against the concrete wall.

Stravo, if Kerry wasn't in a pressure filled situation, as the president was, and he still couldn't think, why do you think he would think any more clearly when loads of pressure are immediately put upon him?

The WHOLE point is that there was nothing he could have done. All he had left to do was watch the horror unfold. There's a world of difference when you can and have the responsibility to ACT as the president did and you're just reduced to the sidelines. But you'll never understand that will you?

[Talon Karrde]

If you read my entire post, perhaps you'll notice I spelled hypocrisy correctly. Are you all seriously so up-tight that someone can't mistype or mispell a word and that immediately tears down a point? Wow.

MY GOD, look at the TITLE of your fucking thread jackass. And thanks for once again side stepping the spankings you've been getting everywhere you go on your Grand Tour of Stupidity on SD.Net. You never are going to go back and deal with the counter arguments are you? You're going ot keep on chugging like a retarded monkey with a football helpmet on banging your head against the concrete wall.

I didn't say I didn't mistype my title!!! You act like since I mistyped it, I'm stupid. Im saying that obviously I know how to spell it since I spelled in correctly later, but you think because I mistyped my title I immediately am a moron.

The WHOLE point is that there was nothing he could have done. All he had left to do was watch the horror unfold. There's a world of difference when you can and have the responsibility to ACT as the president did and you're just reduced to the sidelines. But you'll never understand that will you?

You immediately dismiss my point about Kerry "not being able to think" as being irrelevant and that your point is the whole and only point. This is the problem with the debating on this board. You dismiss someones point as irrelevant and blindly follow your opinion. Your entitled to your opinion, but you can't dismiss someone elses because you want to.

[Keevan_Colton]

Logic little cumstain, learn it, love it, fucking use it!

You have made an assertion that is from a logical standpoint, utter fucking horse shit. You have this pointed out, you insist people are being mean....lather rinse repeat.

Grow a fucking brain.

[Darth Wong]

Why because I find something to be of more importance than you does this immediately brand me and "idiot?"

Let me explain, since you're too fucking stupid to understand:

1) You don't understand what the word "hypocrisy" means.

2) You think a contradiction exists where in fact none exists

3) When this is pointed out to you, you make no effort whatsoever to prove that it's a contradiction or even explain why you think it's a contradiction, but instead, you simply keep repeating that it's a contradiction. This is known as the "Stone Deaf" method of argument, and yes, it means that you're an idiot.