Foreign observers to audit US election

[Xon]

Hope that clears up any future questions on my nationality, the difficulties of getting into this country permenantly, and the joys(Horrors?) of the INS.

Compared to America, it appears trivial to gain citizenship in Australia.

Or it could be just the, relative, lack of retards in the sytsem due to the size.

[Sarevok]

Well foreign observers are not a bad idea. They help ensure that elections are free and fair. Even though the US is a superpower it does not mean there can be irregularities in the election process.

[Durandal]

Well foreign observers are not a bad idea. They help ensure that elections are free and fair. Even though the US is a superpower it does not mean there can be irregularities in the election process.

Well let's not pretend that foreign countries don't have an agenda. I'm sure most of the first-world at this point would love to see Bush booted out of office.

[frigidmagi]

Compared to America, it appears trivial to gain citizenship in Australia.

Or it could be just the, relative, lack of retards in the sytsem due to the size.

My Australian History is Shady, so feel free to correct me.

Unlike Australia, America has sadly suffered outbreaks of anti-immgration. Most noticable of these groups were the 1800s 'Know Nothings' and the current KKK. These groups are often racist and have a stated desire to protect 'American Culture' and 'Values' from newcomers. From time to time these groups have asserted covert and orvert political pressure and forced the adaption of laws meant to choke off the flow of immgrents.

One thing that often gains them popular support is the appeal to emotion and pride (they'll take your jobs and know nothing about our culture). You can see the pattern repeating in some Americans reactions to the recent wave of Hispainics enteries into the US.

[Stuart Mackey]

Well foreign observers are not a bad idea. They help ensure that elections are free and fair. Even though the US is a superpower it does not mean there can be irregularities in the election process.

Well let's not pretend that foreign countries don't have an agenda. I'm sure most of the first-world at this point would love to see Bush booted out of office.

I think the agenda here is to get a luagh at America's expence

[Glocksman]

We can't have foreign observers, it'll affect the turnout of the cemetary vote!

Let's see.

Put them in Chicago and hear the Daley machine scream bloody murder.
Put them in Florida and hear Governor Jeb howl.
Put them in California and hear the illegal immigrant apologists bleat in outrage.


Hell, this could be fun.

[Glocksman]

One thing that often gains them popular support is the appeal to emotion and pride (they'll take your jobs and know nothing about our culture). You can see the pattern repeating in some Americans reactions to the recent wave of Hispainics enteries into the US.

It's not imaginary that the influx of hispanic illegals holds wages down. I've seen it in action. It's simple supply and demand. When the supply of labor exceeds the demand thanks to the influx of illegals, the cost of said labor drops.

God forbid that the US actually try to keep people from entering the country illegally.

[CJvR]

This is one of the stupidest things I have ever heard of, and I come from a country ruled by coinflipping for three years...

[frigidmagi]

God forbid that the US actually try to keep people from entering the country illegally.

I don't have a problem with that. I have a problem with these people making trouble for legal enteries into the nation. I also have a problem with the drug cartels using these people has mules, Coytoes leaving them in the desert half way out and illegals being sold off has slave labor. This has got to stop.

If it were up to me, illegals wouldn't be allowed to enter our schools or reap benifits from our systems. They wouldn't be sold has slaves either or used to smuggle coke into my country. But it isn't up to me.

However many of them are working their asses off, so a guest worker program only makes senses so we can get some control over this and put protection against exploition and slavery up has well.

Franky if I were you I be more worried about the fact that elements in the Mexican Army cross the broder at will to terrorize law enforcement and Broder Patrol Agents. I'm fed up enough with the situation to support deploying the military, even though I know it will rack up a body count few would believe.

[acesand8s]

According to World Net Daily:

However, state election authorities in Florida have already announced that such observers are not to be allowed access to the voting process and, in any case, they would have to remain at a distance of more than 50 feet from the polls.

I haven't been able to find it at a more reliable news source yet.

[Xon]

God forbid that the US actually try to keep people from entering the country illegally.

In Australia the Supreme Court recently upheld the Federal Governments ability to hold illegal immigrants indefinitely if they failed thier refuge application and the country they came from doesnt want them back or they dont want to leave.

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But he was sent back to detention after the High Court ruled last week that asylum seekers who cannot be deported can be detained indefinitely.

[Xon]

In Australia the Supreme Court

Gah, that should be the "high court", not "Supreme Court"

[MrAnderson]

*Snort, giggle* How low the mighty have fallen...

Last time I checked, you lived in West Virginia. You may have deluded yourself into thinking otherwise, but you're still one of us.

Nope. Still not a US citizen, still not a native born, still not an American. You can yell and scream about me being here, but as is plainly apparent by my twisted worldview, the cultural assimilation failed, for better or worse. Why don't you piss off instead of trying to tell me what I am, you little annoyance? This may shock you, but that's something I can say with utter certainty I know better than you.

Might I suggest you get the fuck out then asshole.

[MrAnderson]

Hope that clears up any future questions on my nationality, the difficulties of getting into this country permenantly, and the joys(Horrors?) of the INS.

Compared to America, it appears trivial to gain citizenship in Australia.

Or it could be just the, relative, lack of retards in the sytsem due to the size.

Nope. It is the mere lack of large scale interest in immigration to Oz.

[MrAnderson]

We can't have foreign observers, it'll affect the turnout of the cemetary vote!

Let's see.

Put them in Chicago and hear the Daley machine scream bloody murder.
Put them in Florida and hear Governor Jeb howl.
Put them in California and hear the illegal immigrant apologists bleat in outrage.


Hell, this could be fun.

Actually you could stick them in Milwaukee, Detroit, Chicago, hell just about any large city with manufacturing and watch the Unions scream bloody murder.

BTW, why would Jeb scream? Just because some of the locals are too fucking stupid to figure out how to work the voting machines does not organized voting fraud make.

[Stuart Mackey]

Last time I checked, you lived in West Virginia. You may have deluded yourself into thinking otherwise, but you're still one of us.

Nope. Still not a US citizen, still not a native born, still not an American. You can yell and scream about me being here, but as is plainly apparent by my twisted worldview, the cultural assimilation failed, for better or worse. Why don't you piss off instead of trying to tell me what I am, you little annoyance? This may shock you, but that's something I can say with utter certainty I know better than you.

Might I suggest you get the fuck out then asshole.

Now why would he do that, hmm?, given he is there legally.

[MrAnderson]

Nope. Still not a US citizen, still not a native born, still not an American. You can yell and scream about me being here, but as is plainly apparent by my twisted worldview, the cultural assimilation failed, for better or worse. Why don't you piss off instead of trying to tell me what I am, you little annoyance? This may shock you, but that's something I can say with utter certainty I know better than you.

Might I suggest you get the fuck out then asshole.

Now why would he do that, hmm?, given he is there legally.

That or he is a complete and utter fucking hyprocrite. Our country sucks about this and is laughed at about that but we still seem to be good enough to live here.

It is amazing that no matter how much the world likes to try to shit on America it is still the most immigrated to country in the world.

[Stuart Mackey]

That or he is a complete and utter fucking hyprocrite. Our country sucks about this and is laughed at about that but we still seem to be good enough to live here.

Answer the question please, whay should he leave if he is there legally?

It is amazing that no matter how much the world likes to try to shit on America it is still the most immigrated to country in the world.

so what? perhaps its easier to get to compared to say, Aussie or NZ in the southern hemisphere. Or maybe America is the only thing some of these people have knowledge about, oh and post evidence of the above please.
If the world is shiting on America, then dont you think America should see why this is the case

[frigidmagi]

I don't think Sir Nitram is shitting on this country, he's just having a laugh.

We're the most powerful nation on the planet, people are going to take a chance to cut us down a little. It's no big deal.

Or has my brother joked:

Yeah, Europeans, that'll keep us honest.

[SirNitram]

That or he is a complete and utter fucking hyprocrite. Our country sucks about this and is laughed at about that but we still seem to be good enough to live here.

Look at what the little troll rages about when the speaker is missing due to connection problems. Whether you thought you were a clever little asstard for jabbing while I was gone, or are just naturally this abrasive and stupid, I don't care.

You, like so many of the Americans, are short-sighted little monkeys. I rightfully point out downsides to your systems, you call it 'shitting on' your country. I criticize where criticism is due, you screech like little children that I say your country sucks, that I should 'go home'. Apparently America still has alot of growing up to do.. Or maybe just those of her residents like you.

Never have I been told in Britain 'Go back to America!' if I criticize the system, mock the politicians, or have a laugh because, surprise sur-fucking-prise, immoral, idiotic assholes are cocking up the works again. Maybe I'm lucky over there.

It is amazing that no matter how much the world likes to try to shit on America it is still the most immigrated to country in the world.

It is amazing any of you retarded, inbred, backwards little insects can coherently type. How is mocking that your officials and politicians are being officials and politicians 'shitting on America'? Oh yea; you're too immature and stupid to realize that the people responsible for this shit will always pull shit.

Thank you, though, for those that saw the humour in the moment and not this little trolls screechings, and spoke up when I could not.

[Patrick Degan]

You, like so many of the Americans, are short-sighted little monkeys. I rightfully point out downsides to your systems, you call it 'shitting on' your country. I criticize where criticism is due, you screech like little children that I say your country sucks, that I should 'go home'. Apparently America still has alot of growing up to do.. Or maybe just those of her residents like you.

It is amazing any of you retarded, inbred, backwards little insects can coherently type. How is mocking that your officials and politicians are being officials and politicians 'shitting on America'? Oh yea; you're too immature and stupid to realize that the people responsible for this shit will always pull shit.

Hmm... Remedial Diplomacy 085 for you, Sir Nitram.

[SirNitram]

Hmm... Remedial Diplomacy 085 for you, Sir Nitram.

I never get past the lesson called 'Do not piss on the shoes of the man implying you are stupid'. They keep saying it's not a trick question.

[Patrick Degan]

Hmm... Remedial Diplomacy 085 for you, Sir Nitram.

I never get past the lesson called 'Do not piss on the shoes of the man implying you are stupid'. They keep saying it's not a trick question.