'The Batman' Character Designs Revealed

Death from the Sea · Post by **Death from the Sea** » 2004-08-23 04:41pm

SylasGaunt wrote:Is it just me or are these done by the same people who did Jackie Chan Adventures?

holy crap that ain't Bruce Wayne it is Jackie Chan!!!!

AnimeJet · Post by **AnimeJet** » 2004-08-23 04:56pm

Ah joker.. poor, poor joker.. didn't they realize there was a difference between crazy and retarded?

Post by **LadyTevar** » 2004-08-23 05:01pm

Once again, I repeat myself.

This show sucks.

Post by **Steve** » 2004-08-23 05:29pm

18-Till-I-Die wrote:Dudes, this is how the Joker should look. He's fucking crazy, and he's been horribly disfigured by toxic chemicals, but they always had him looking like some reject from the 30s, it was stupid. This way he looks like a homeless nutjob who caught some major bad shit one day, and that works fine for me. He looks as crazy and broke ass as he always acted.

Now lets see how they do Harley Quinn next. And God bless the animators if they actually draw boobs on her this time around and not pointy little nubs jutting out of her chest like Bruce Timm.

KILL THE HERETIC!

The Timm DCverse Joker is how the Clown Prince of Crime should look. Not that.... atrocity.

General Zod · Post by **General Zod** » 2004-08-23 05:34pm

ugh. . . .this is the singularly worst designed batman show ever. i mean, even the adam west era batman had more style than this crap. hell, the tim burton eye gouging nipple suit had more style.

JME2 · Post by **JME2** » 2004-08-23 05:41pm

Darth_Zod wrote:ugh. . . .this is the singularly worst designed batman show ever. i mean, even the adam west era batman had more style than this crap. hell, the tim burton eye gouging nipple suit had more style.

You mean the Joel Schumacher gouging nipple suit.

neoolong · Post by **neoolong** » 2004-08-23 06:07pm

Darth_Zod wrote:ugh. . . .this is the singularly worst designed batman show ever. i mean, even the adam west era batman had more style than this crap. hell, the tim burton eye gouging nipple suit had more style.

You see the new Batman movie suit?

Pretty nice.

SAMAS · Post by **SAMAS** » 2004-08-24 02:41am

LadyTevar wrote:Once again, I repeat myself.

This show sucks.

Hey hey hey! Don't pass judgement until after you see it.

Now repeat after me: "This show is going to suck."

Shroom Man 777 · Post by **Shroom Man 777** » 2004-08-24 07:53am

Gah! This is fucking horrible, I mean...

1.) Bruce looks so...Asian. Jesus Christ!

2.) The Batman looks horrible. No neck. His exposed mouth parts look crappy, especially how the cowl covers his cheeks. His eyes makes him look like a Grey alien. He has no neck. He has vestigial bat ears. He looks like pussy shit.

3.) Alfred should ALWAYS be an Englishman, first and foremost! Anything else is a fucking travesty. I mean...shit...

4.) Sure, Catwoman has tits, that's good. But could we lessen the ears? Her ears look more bat-ish than Batman's bat-ears.

5.) Chief Rojas? Looks like a Ruskie with a WWI-era trench outfit. I'd love to shove a canister of mustard gas up his ass.

6.) We're gonna have a teenager replacing Montoya? What's she gonna do? Go on a shopping spree? The hell is wrong with this! They're turning someone kick ass chick with attitude into some reject from Legally Blonde. Sure, she looks good, but she should be out in a prom, dating Terry McGinnis or something!

7.) That other detective...meh.

8.) RRRRRAAAAAAAAAARRRRRGGGGGHHHHHHHH!!!!!! JESUS GOUGE MY EYEBALLS NOW!!!! AAARRRGGGHHH!!!! I mean...shit, he looks like a PUNK HOMELESS HOBO FROM A MENTAL WARD, a SHOELESS punk homeless hobo from a mental ward WITH TOMATOES FOR EYES AND GREEN NAIL POLISH!!! I mean, shit! I could just imagine the Joker hanging out with punks listening to rap and R&B. Thank God they didn't give him chainz and other bling bling. I mean, shit! This is like purple constipated shit! We want the old Joker, the old Joker with style, with a suit, with TRUE psychoticness and unmatched wit and class and insanity rather than a neurotic WITHOUT SHOES and NEEDING A FUCKING EXORCISM!!! Shit man! When I saw the Joker pic, I thought I saw foam in his mouth for Christ's sake!

9.) Meh. Mayor. Bah.

10.) Wow! Mister Freeze, rather than being the smart and tragic and cool philosophical scientist, ends up as some demonic look-alike. What, is this new Batman gonna pull a cricifix from his ass and go "the power of Christ compells you" on Joker and Mr. Freeze? Sure, I haven't a problem with his design, I do think it's neat, but that's not the Mister Freeze we know and love, that should NOT be Mr. Freeze.

11.) SHIT! This Penguin guy looks fucking horrible! I mean, he's a fucking dwarf! And his face...his FACE!!!! Argh! I mean...shit...he's fugly...

I'm constipated. There goes dinner...

Patrick Degan · Post by **Patrick Degan** » 2004-08-24 09:04am

Kon_El wrote:
18-Till-I-Die wrote:I dont know, i never thought he was too brilliant. IMHO, one of the reasons people fear him so much, even though he's just a disfigured guy with no superpowers, is cause he's Pure D. Nuts as my mom would say. You cant reason with him cause he's off in his own little freaky world, a maniac with literally no remorse and no compunction about killing anyone or anything that gets in his path, and thinks it's all a big joke. I just think this design conveys that better than before. But i may be premature in saying that, since we havnt seen anything in motion yet.
The joker has a twisted logic but is still able to think, plan, execute said plan. that is what makes him dangerous. This guy looks like he couldn't remember his name much less come up with a plan to kill a few hundred people as a joke.

Indeed. In the Batman: TAS episode "The Laughing Fish", he had devised a binary toxic compound so that he could deliver his poisons to his chosen victims on his time and to achieve the maximum effect for his campaign of terror (getting to each victim despite all efforts by the police to guard them from attack), to override local television to make his terror broadcasts, and to lay a trap in anticipation of the Batman's interference (and caught Harvey Bullock instead). He also showed himself to be a vicious killer in the showdown fight he and Batman had on the dock. The Joker is in full command of his faculties, and that type of lunatic is a far more dangerous article than any ordinary madman.

SAMAS · Post by **SAMAS** » 2004-08-24 10:34am

Shroom Man 777 wrote:Gah! This is fucking horrible, I mean...
3.) Alfred should ALWAYS be an Englishman, first and foremost! Anything else is a fucking travesty. I mean...shit...

This may suprise you, but there are, in fact, black people in England, too. I don't think they'll be that stupid as to mess that up...

...At least, I did until I saw the Joker...

6.) We're gonna have a teenager replacing Montoya? What's she gonna do? Go on a shopping spree? The hell is wrong with this! They're turning someone kick ass chick with attitude into some reject from Legally Blonde. Sure, she looks good, but she should be out in a prom, dating Terry McGinnis or something!

Now that is entirely unfair. Considering that the story is supposed to be set sometime earlier than the comic/animated series, That means that, at best at least, they have the opporuntity to build these characters into more familiar forms(I'm not holding my breath for the Joker, though). Some of your other points are valid, but here you're just looking for something to bash.

8.) RRRRRAAAAAAAAAARRRRRGGGGGHHHHHHHH!!!!!! JESUS GOUGE MY EYEBALLS NOW!!!! AAARRRGGGHHH!!!! I mean...shit, he looks like a PUNK HOMELESS HOBO FROM A MENTAL WARD, a SHOELESS punk homeless hobo from a mental ward WITH TOMATOES FOR EYES AND GREEN NAIL POLISH!!! I mean, shit! I could just imagine the Joker hanging out with punks listening to rap and R&B. Thank God they didn't give him chainz and other bling bling. I mean, shit! This is like purple constipated shit! We want the old Joker, the old Joker with style, with a suit, with TRUE psychoticness and unmatched wit and class and insanity rather than a neurotic WITHOUT SHOES and NEEDING A FUCKING EXORCISM!!! Shit man! When I saw the Joker pic, I thought I saw foam in his mouth for Christ's sake!

Yeah, there's no redeeming this one.

11.) SHIT! This Penguin guy looks fucking horrible! I mean, he's a fucking dwarf! And his face...his FACE!!!! Argh! I mean...shit...he's fugly...

It's the fucking Penguin. Of course he's ugly. What did you expect, Brad Pitt?

Look, I'm not saying that the show is gonna be the best thing since BTAS(it can't). But let's wait until the show comes out before we go off on it, and for L-Sama's sake, let's only trash the things that really are wrong with it, instead of bashing by association!

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2004-08-24 10:42am

SAMAS wrote:This may suprise you, but there are, in fact, black people in England, too. I don't think they'll be that stupid as to mess that up...

Alfred didn't strike me as black in that picture. I just chalked it up to the character design being coloured too darkly.

Now that is entirely unfair. Considering that the story is supposed to be set sometime earlier than the comic/animated series, That means that, at best at least, they have the opporuntity to build these characters into more familiar forms(I'm not holding my breath for the Joker, though). Some of your other points are valid, but here you're just looking for something to bash.

Teens aren't cops.

SAMAS · Post by **SAMAS** » 2004-08-24 01:47pm

Spanky The Dolphin wrote:
SAMAS wrote:This may suprise you, but there are, in fact, black people in England, too. I don't think they'll be that stupid as to mess that up...

Alfred didn't strike me as black in that picture. I just chalked it up to the character design being coloured too darkly.

Me neither, although I definitely did at first. I guess we'll see when it airs.

Skelron · Post by **Skelron** » 2004-08-24 04:51pm

On the Joker, that is not a guy from that picture who inspires confidence in me... As pointed out Joker is smart, he has a twisted style, and he is clever. Look at, for example, No-Mans-Land, where he manages to get the whole force hunting over the city for him, including all of the Bat-Team. Where was he, why sitting in the freaking Police Station that he had managed to get everyone to abandon.

Look at for example again, return of the Joker, this is the guy who invents a way to live after after death, by stealing the body of Robin!

This is a guy who in Justice League got into the Injustice League because he was able to calculate Batmans movements. This all in all is the Joker the counter to Batman, where Batman is serious without Humour, the Joker has a twisted Humour. However one thing remains the same between the two a intellect. Not surprising can you see that Joker being Batmans number one foe? I can't, I can't see that Joker being the type of person that can match wits with any Batman I'd care to give the title too... Nope it's not the Joker.

JME2 · Post by **JME2** » 2004-08-24 05:14pm

I've always felt that the Joker was Bats' most personal foe, with the original Ra's al Ghul as his most deadly. Or from another POV, Ra's is his greatest internationally-based foe, Joker his worst Gotham City-based foe.

EyeoftheRaven · Post by **EyeoftheRaven** » 2004-08-24 07:28pm

I don't have much hope for this, based on the Joker alone, but I'll give it a shot. I didn't think Batman Beyond would be good either, and it was a pleasant surprise when I sat down to watch it.

Shroom Man 777 · Post by **Shroom Man 777** » 2004-08-25 07:01am

SAMAS wrote:This may suprise you, but there are, in fact, black people in England, too. I don't think they'll be that stupid as to mess that up...

...At least, I did until I saw the Joker...

I know there are blacks in England. But I mean, Alfred can't be black, he should be your trademark aged english butler with the english accent, with the english style, the ettiquete and so forth. But I guess the new Alfred could have a Morgan Freeman-ish style which could make him cool also.

Now that is entirely unfair. Considering that the story is supposed to be set sometime earlier than the comic/animated series, That means that, at best at least, they have the opporuntity to build these characters into more familiar forms(I'm not holding my breath for the Joker, though). Some of your other points are valid, but here you're just looking for something to bash.

Kids shouldn't be cops, kids shouldn't be ass kicking cops. But yeah, it depends on how they play her out...but the Joker doesn't inspire much faith and this show is for kids...so

11.) SHIT! This Penguin guy looks fucking horrible! I mean, he's a fucking dwarf! And his face...his FACE!!!! Argh! I mean...shit...he's fugly...
It's the fucking Penguin. Of course he's ugly. What did you expect, Brad Pitt?

But the Penguin's ugly isn't that ugly. I mean...Jesus Christ, look at that fucking face...it doesn't look like a Penguin, it looks like some sad toy of some sort. But I guess that could be redeemed as well.

JME2 · Post by **JME2** » 2004-08-25 12:22pm

Shroom Man 777 wrote: Kids shouldn't be cops, kids shouldn't be ass kicking cops. But yeah, it depends on how they play her out...but the Joker doesn't inspire much faith and this show is for kids...so

This brings back bad memories of Fox's marketing based off BTAS and the limitations they opposed.

Confused? Allow me to explain.

During the height of BTAS, or just as the second season began, Fox believed that a cartoon series would sell more merchandise if there were kids involved in the series. And since the youngest of the main heroes was Robin, well, that led to the name change from BTAS to "The Adventures of Batman and Robin".

They forced Team Timm to have Robin in every episode and any episode script that didn't got the axe; this, alas, also included a planned Catwoman/Black Canary episode). Of course now, ten years later, CN is letting them get away with s*** that would have sent Fox or KidsWB into a coronary and we know that Black Canary will appear on JLU (she had a cameo at the end of Initiations which, in a nice nod to their comic-based on-again/off-again relationship, played a large role in Green Arrow's decision to stay with the League and will be appearing in season 4's "Double Date".)

Peregrin Toker · Post by **Peregrin Toker** » 2004-08-25 02:26pm

Shroom Man 777 wrote:
SAMAS wrote:This may suprise you, but there are, in fact, black people in England, too. I don't think they'll be that stupid as to mess that up...

...At least, I did until I saw the Joker...
I know there are blacks in England. But I mean, Alfred can't be black, he should be your trademark aged english butler with the english accent, with the english style, the ettiquete and so forth. But I guess the new Alfred could have a Morgan Freeman-ish style which could make him cool also.

The new Alfred looks more Middle Eastern than anything else to me.

DocHorror · Post by **DocHorror** » 2004-08-25 02:39pm

I never have much faith when people start using terms such as 'back to basics' or 're-imaging' or 'new-direction'.

Of all those pictures the Joker is the worst, the rest are just another artists take characters, but the Joker one is just wrong, for many of the reasons pointed out by almost everyone else here.

The Joker isn't a Gangsta' homey or whatever, he's Batman's classic nemesis, like the Fantastic Four and Dr Doom, Superman and Lex Luthor...etc...

JME2 · Post by **JME2** » 2004-08-26 01:01am

And now for the final nail in the coffin, I give you the opening title sequence:

Here

Patrick Degan · Post by **Patrick Degan** » 2004-08-26 01:11am

Wow... It's so awful that it caused the page to disappear into a Kids'WB 404 Error message.

BlkbrryTheGreat · Post by **BlkbrryTheGreat** » 2004-08-26 01:30am

Gallery of pics from one of the episodes of this tripe. On the plus side, Alfred is indeed white.

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2004-08-26 01:30am

Pika-CHU!!

JME2 · Post by **JME2** » 2004-08-26 01:34am

Patrick Degan wrote:Wow... It's so awful that it caused the page to disappear into a Kids'WB 404 Error message.

My bad.

Here we go