STGOD 4 OOC Thread (part 2)

Thirdfain · Post by **Thirdfain** » 2004-08-26 11:38pm

Look, about Tortuga- Westrey has VERY clear public support for a return to pre-war situation, with Tortuga untouched and it's fleet intact. So clear that Etern warships are in fact en-route to the region right now, with the blessings of half known space. He's arguing from strength, and he should know that.

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2004-08-26 11:43pm

Oh and I repeated the offer, the ball's in your court now Marcao.

Marcao · Post by **Marcao** » 2004-08-26 11:48pm

Stormbringer: I caught it. give me a day to mull it over and I will get back to you with a post. It should be nice and meaty. ^_~

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2004-08-26 11:49pm

Marcao wrote:Stormbringer: I caught it. give me a day to mull it over and I will get back to you with a post. It should be nice and meaty. ^_~

Alrightly then. I'll await your response.

Rogue 9 · Post by **Rogue 9** » 2004-08-27 12:22am

Thirdfain wrote:Look, about Tortuga- Westrey has VERY clear public support for a return to pre-war situation, with Tortuga untouched and it's fleet intact. So clear that Etern warships are in fact en-route to the region right now, with the blessings of half known space. He's arguing from strength, and he should know that.

You know, the Etern are friggin' next door to the Draconis. Look at the map.

Thirdfain · Post by **Thirdfain** » 2004-08-27 12:23am

It's oer a day's travel time, anyways. And your point changes nothing.

SirNitram · Post by **SirNitram** » 2004-08-27 12:35am

Rogue 9 wrote:
Thirdfain wrote:Look, about Tortuga- Westrey has VERY clear public support for a return to pre-war situation, with Tortuga untouched and it's fleet intact. So clear that Etern warships are in fact en-route to the region right now, with the blessings of half known space. He's arguing from strength, and he should know that.
You know, the Etern are friggin' next door to the Draconis. Look at the map.

We mosey. And besides, you ever tried to get Nordic warriors to go straight to the target? Every third port, they stop in, they rape, they pillage, they set fire to shit. Then the Captain has to go EXPLAIN....

Bugsby · Post by **Bugsby** » 2004-08-27 02:12am

Marcao, the way I see it is that your entire case boils down to demaning "reparations." As a merc power, I can attest that this isn't a very good in-game policy. People will go through "money" like water. You would settle the Tortuga dispute by making Aly sacrifice a sum total of NOTHING. Well, nothing that really matters. The 5th part of the treaty might be interesting, seeing as how the Starkiller murders may come out, but in truth, Aly can dodge around that so easily it's rediculous. It's a weak treaty.

Rogue 9 · Post by **Rogue 9** » 2004-08-27 02:16am

Bugsby wrote:Marcao, the way I see it is that your entire case boils down to demaning "reparations." As a merc power, I can attest that this isn't a very good in-game policy. People will go through "money" like water. You would settle the Tortuga dispute by making Aly sacrifice a sum total of NOTHING. Well, nothing that really matters. The 5th part of the treaty might be interesting, seeing as how the Starkiller murders may come out, but in truth, Aly can dodge around that so easily it's rediculous. It's a weak treaty.

Not really. If he were really so cavalier about his budget, he'd have taken Straha's treaty and just paid for everything.

Bugsby · Post by **Bugsby** » 2004-08-27 02:27am

I disagree. But let us see what comes. I know that Aly has paid me twice recently, and with Tortuga added, he is blowing a HUGE chunk of his government's budget. If he goes with this treaty, I just want to see a suffering economy, one that lasts for a good long chunk of time.

Spyder · Post by **Spyder** » 2004-08-27 06:30am

Ok, I've used the search function, I've looked up the history, I sacrificed the goat, where the hell is New Tortuga?

Dahak · Post by **Dahak** » 2004-08-27 06:49am

Thirdfain wrote:Veitha is too new to the region to have BIC offices, recall that the BIC was formed a whole decade ago by the Hajr's forewards agents. Veitha, the UP, and the Ravenlock are all examples of nations with little or no BIC connections.

It is safe to assume that my place is absolutely clear, as well.
Not only are we new to this whole Known Space, we are also totally paranoid when it comes down to foreigners in our space.
Needless to say, everything non-Gladsheim people see are the orbital station. The cities are all off-limits to anyone else (except a very, very selected few under high surveillance

)

Pablo Sanchez · Post by **Pablo Sanchez** » 2004-08-27 07:58am

Spyder wrote:Ok, I've used the search function, I've looked up the history, I sacrificed the goat, where the hell is New Tortuga?

Directly on the Draconis border. I'm pretty sure Alyrium's original intentions were to blast the pirates and annex them quietly, but nobody played along and it ended up being a complete fiasco.

Rogue 9 · Post by **Rogue 9** » 2004-08-27 09:42am

Bugsby wrote:I disagree. But let us see what comes. I know that Aly has paid me twice recently, and with Tortuga added, he is blowing a HUGE chunk of his government's budget. If he goes with this treaty, I just want to see a suffering economy, one that lasts for a good long chunk of time.

Ooooooooo, he paid you 1/3rd of a payment of a piddling 14 million for the intel. I'm so sure that'll break a national budget.

What else did he pay you for?

Thirdfain · Post by **Thirdfain** » 2004-08-27 09:52am

A full 3rd of the Krell navy

Rogue 9 · Post by **Rogue 9** » 2004-08-27 12:15pm

*Ponders whether to do anything about all this reconquest stuff.*

Captain tycho · Post by **Captain tycho** » 2004-08-27 12:59pm

Rogue 9 wrote:*Ponders whether to do anything about all this reconquest stuff.*

It's not like Arkantos is a major player in galactic politics. It was basically a colony that rebelled, like I said, during the UBT invasion. So I'm really just taking back whats rightfully mine.

Rogue 9 · Post by **Rogue 9** » 2004-08-27 01:02pm

Yeah, and it's not like Tortuga is a major player in galactic politics. It is basically a fiefdom that supported pirates, like Alyrium said, basically the whole time. So Alyrium was just protecting what was rightfully his.

Thirdfain · Post by **Thirdfain** » 2004-08-27 01:09pm

OOC whining: NOT a successful STGOD tactic.

Rogue 9 · Post by **Rogue 9** » 2004-08-27 01:13pm

Thirdfain wrote:OOC whining: NOT a successful STGOD tactic.

I was mocking his justification, not whining.

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2004-08-27 01:41pm

Rogue 9 wrote:
Thirdfain wrote:OOC whining: NOT a successful STGOD tactic.
I was mocking his justification, not whining.

And you know what, the difference between them is simply that he pulled it off and Alyirum didn't. Rather like a lot of the NPNs that were conquered under varying justifications.

frigidmagi · Post by **frigidmagi** » 2004-08-27 02:10pm

Rogue given the UP's history of cival war, we would be rather sympethic to the Manities over this.

Oh, By the Way...

I'M BAACCKKK!

Marcao · Post by **Marcao** » 2004-08-27 02:12pm

frigidmagi wrote:Rogue given the UP's history of cival war, we would be rather sympethic to the Manities over this.

Oh, By the Way...

I'M BAACCKKK!

Welcome back Frigid. ^_^

frigidmagi · Post by **frigidmagi** » 2004-08-27 02:44pm

Thridfain, all execs are getting the fine tooth comb treatment before leaving and some may be "unavoidablly detained."

I imagine your news service has some screaming to do now.

Thirdfain · Post by **Thirdfain** » 2004-08-27 04:06pm

I imagine you need to pay more attention. There are no BIC execs in your nation.

The BIC was formed 10 years ago. Your nation has been on the scene for only a handful of months. You may have some trade offices with BIC affiliates, but you certainly have no one of importance.

Oh, and nice metagaming, kids. I hope when you foolks find evidence accusing ME of espionage, you send me letters asking if I did it rather than battlefleets.