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Fucking Religious Luddite Zealot Terrorists strike again!

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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5842216/

Yeah yeah, no leads yet, but does anyone really think any group other then one of these "a group of cells that don't even have to come from what will one day be a fetus means you killed a baby" groups?

Really pisses me off. Organ regeneration and research against diabetes. How the fuck can you be against that?

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I hope the only damage done was in the form of broken windows.
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Ah yes, bombing a stem-cell clinic. Good thing Christian fundies don't resort to terror tactics the way Muslims do :roll:

Just imagine how Christians would behave if they seriously felt threatened as a group, instead of being firmly in control of the most powerful nation on Earth. Sorry about going a bit off-topic there, but I'm getting tired of this confident blustering that Christianity is so much more enlightened than Islam.
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Con-fucking-gratulations. Your religious beliefs, whoever you are, are stopping the research into the curing of diseases that have ravaged my family for generations. If I ever find out who you are, maybe I"ll just give you one or two of those diseases...
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My closest friend has had Type 1 diabetes since she was 18 months old. It's nearly killed her at least once, and without a cure, it's likely she's eventually going to lose her legs, her kidneys, or her eyes, and go to her grave before her time.

Fuck these people. Fuck them hard, fuck them often, fuck them until their rectums split, and fuck their enablers and allies and everyone who'd condemn living human beings to suffer unnecessarily because their imaginary friend in the sky tells them it's the right thing to do.
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Darth Wong wrote:Ah yes, bombing a stem-cell clinic. Good thing Christian fundies don't resort to terror tactics the way Muslims do :roll:

Just imagine how Christians would behave if they seriously felt threatened as a group, instead of being firmly in control of the most powerful nation on Earth. Sorry about going a bit off-topic there, but I'm getting tired of this confident blustering that Christianity is so much more enlightened than Islam.
So am I, Mike. I think they would stoop to the Islamobombers' level in a heartbeat if they ever feel threatened. Sit back for a couple centuries and watch...
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Can someone explain the bible-thumpers to me on this one?

They say abortion is murder. They say the use of stem cells comes from abortions.

Now let's assume for the sake of argument that they are right on both counts. What's the big deal? The bodies of murder victims are used for medical research. If I get killed by some maniac, I would hope that the medical examiner would try to salvage something from a bad predicament and use parts of my carcase to educate people.

These people are INCOHERENT fanatics.
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As a Type 1 diabetic myself, I can only wish it on them and theirs.
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These people are INCOHERENT fanatics.
What did you expect? It's pretty obvious that logical and rational thought are trademarks of relegious zealots.
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Ma Deuce wrote:
These people are INCOHERENT fanatics.
What did you expect? It's pretty obvious that logical and rational thought are trademarks of relegious zealots.
Damn. that should be:

"What did you expect? It's pretty obvious that logical and rational thought are not trademarks of relegious zealots."
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Darth Wong wrote:Just imagine how Christians would behave if they seriously felt threatened as a group, instead of being firmly in control of the most powerful nation on Earth.
That's strange: I thought that Christian fundies liked to portray themselves as the "oppressed minority", despite the fact that that notion clearly has no basis in reality.
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Oh Yes, one group of idiots decides to break several of the core commands(Thou shalt not murder, Treat others has you would be treated, etc, etc)

And we're all murdering bastards, thanks a lot. This is like me blaming all Atheist for the actions of certain Athesit regiemes in the world.

What those assholes did was wrong and should have no place in the world. However I won't share in the blame because they might have tried to use my faith has a shield for their actions. Guilt by Assocaition is not logical.
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Thousands of Sudanese are killed each day, and I hear not one word from these fuckers. But they get a hair up their ass about a few worthless cells?
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I don't feel that suggesting that all christians are of the mold of the people that planted that pipe bomb. I know several christians that are for stem cell research. I don't think that any group should be generalized. Just like Every Arab is not a terrorist, Not every Christian is a would be terrorist/fundie either.
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Marcao wrote:I don't feel that suggesting that all christians are of the mold of the people that planted that pipe bomb is kosher. I know several christians that are for stem cell research. I don't think that any group should be generalized. Just like Every Arab is not a terrorist, Not every Christian is a would be terrorist/fundie either.
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frigidmagi wrote:Oh Yes, one group of idiots decides to break several of the core commands(Thou shalt not murder, Treat others has you would be treated, etc, etc)

And we're all murdering bastards, thanks a lot. This is like me blaming all Atheist for the actions of certain Athesit regiemes in the world.
Don't be a fucking idiot. No one said that all Christians are like this, only that there is nothing about Christianity which makes it intrinsically less prone to extremist violence than Islam, despite propaganda to the contrary. Do you not have the necessary brainpower to understand the distinction?

I'm so sick of Christians leaping on the "I'm a victim! Help me!" hobby-horse the instant anyone says anything less than glowingly positive about the faith.
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Marcao wrote: Just like Every Arab is not a terrorist, Not every Christian is a would be terrorist/fundie either.
Your equating fundamentalist Christians with terrorists? Wtf? I wouldn't term these Christians as fundamentalists, but instead extremist wackos.
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Talon Karrde wrote:
Marcao wrote: Just like Every Arab is not a terrorist, Not every Christian is a would be terrorist/fundie either.
Your equating fundamentalist Christians with terrorists? Wtf? I wouldn't term these Christians as fundamentalists, but instead extremist wackos.
I'm sure you've never equated Islamic fundamentalism to terrorism.
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Elfdart wrote:Can someone explain the bible-thumpers to me on this one?

They say abortion is murder. They say the use of stem cells comes from abortions.

Now let's assume for the sake of argument that they are right on both counts. What's the big deal? The bodies of murder victims are used for medical research. If I get killed by some maniac, I would hope that the medical examiner would try to salvage something from a bad predicament and use parts of my carcase to educate people.

These people are INCOHERENT fanatics.
Yeah, I've never understood this either. Abortion bombers supposedly want the abortionists to stop committing murder, but then they go ahead and do the same thing. That's pretty ridiculous logic.
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Talon Karrde wrote:
Marcao wrote: Just like Every Arab is not a terrorist, Not every Christian is a would be terrorist/fundie either.
Your equating fundamentalist Christians with terrorists? Wtf? I wouldn't term these Christians as fundamentalists, but instead extremist wackos.
the difference is what exactly?
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Darth Wong wrote:
Talon Karrde wrote:
Marcao wrote: Just like Every Arab is not a terrorist, Not every Christian is a would be terrorist/fundie either.
Your equating fundamentalist Christians with terrorists? Wtf? I wouldn't term these Christians as fundamentalists, but instead extremist wackos.
I'm sure you've never equated Islamic fundamentalism to terrorism.
wtf? Your also in on this generalization Mike? I know we differ greatly, but jese.

And no, I haven't, thanks for speaking for me when I completely disagree with that.
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Darth Wong wrote:
frigidmagi wrote:Oh Yes, one group of idiots decides to break several of the core commands(Thou shalt not murder, Treat others has you would be treated, etc, etc)

And we're all murdering bastards, thanks a lot. This is like me blaming all Atheist for the actions of certain Athesit regiemes in the world.
Don't be a fucking idiot. No one said that all Christians are like this, only that there is nothing about Christianity which makes it intrinsically less prone to extremist violence than Islam, despite propaganda to the contrary. Do you not have the necessary brainpower to understand the distinction?

I'm so sick of Christians leaping on the "I'm a victim! Help me!" hobby-horse the instant anyone says anything less than glowingly positive about the faith.
Am I the only Christian who's more or less completely embarrassed to share a religion with guys like this?
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Talon Karrde wrote:
Marcao wrote: Just like Every Arab is not a terrorist, Not every Christian is a would be terrorist/fundie either.
Your equating fundamentalist Christians with terrorists? Wtf? I wouldn't term these Christians as fundamentalists, but instead extremist wackos.
What's the difference between fundamentalists and religious wackos?

Fundamentalist TV shows have decent production values while wackos are still on public access cable.

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Darth_Zod wrote:
Talon Karrde wrote:
Marcao wrote: Just like Every Arab is not a terrorist, Not every Christian is a would be terrorist/fundie either.
Your equating fundamentalist Christians with terrorists? Wtf? I wouldn't term these Christians as fundamentalists, but instead extremist wackos.
the difference is what exactly?
Fundamentalists take Christian dogma quite seriously, without much room for accepting any other way of looking at the issues. That's how I'd define fundamentalism. Not bombing things they disagree with.
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Don't be a fucking idiot. No one said that all Christians are like this, only that there is nothing about Christianity which makes it intrinsically less prone to extremist violence than Islam, despite propaganda to the contrary.
Well I can see where he thought you were saying that.
Darth Wong wrote:Just imagine how Christians would behave if they seriously felt threatened as a group, instead of being firmly in control of the most powerful nation on Earth.
*Shrug*
Am I the only Christian who's more or less completely embarrassed to share a religion with guys like this?
Depends. If you mean the bombers, then hell no; I'm pissed as hell. If you mean Frigid, then yeah, you probably are. He made what appears to be an honest mistake concerning Mike's intent.
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