Israeli spy in the Pentagon

Post by **Vympel** » 2004-08-27 11:55pm

CBS sources say that last year the suspected spy, described as a trusted analyst at the Pentagon, turned over a presidential directive on U.S. policy toward Iran while it was, "in the draft phase when U.S. policy-makers were still debating the policy."

This put the Israelis, according to one source, "inside the decision-making loop" so they could "try to influence the outcome."

CBS sources say that last year the suspected spy, described as a trusted analyst at the Pentagon, turned over a presidential directive on U.S. policy toward Iran while it was, "in the draft phase when U.S. policy-makers were still debating the policy."

This put the Israelis, according to one source, "inside the decision-making loop" so they could "try to influence the outcome."

Give them a few more billions in aid every year, that should stop em.

MKSheppard · Post by **MKSheppard** » 2004-08-27 11:59pm

I'm surprised you didn't mention it was in Douglas Feith, UnderSecretary of Defense for Policy's office

Predator · Post by **Predator** » 2004-08-28 12:22am

Lets see how long it takes for claims of anti-semitism to be leveled at those who express outrage about this. Didnt take long when NZ caught Mossad operatives attempting to steal NZ passports.

Hamas are probably happy that the Israely spy has been caught. Therefore the US should make the spy feel welcome

Elfdart · Post by **Elfdart** » 2004-08-28 12:27am

Predator wrote:Lets see how long it takes for claims of anti-semitism to be leveled at those who express outrage about this. Didnt take long when NZ caught Mossad operatives attempting to steal NZ passports.

Hamas are probably happy that the Israely spy has been caught. Therefore the US should make the spy feel welcome

Maybe we should do an over/ under betting line. I'll set the line at Saturday morning 11AM EST. At least one of the public affairs/ news shows will have someone calling the investigation anti-Semitic by then.

Durandal · Post by **Durandal** » 2004-08-28 01:09am

So we fund their military ... and they spy on us. Awesome.

Elfdart · Post by **Elfdart** » 2004-08-28 01:11am

Durandal wrote:So we fund their military ... and they spy on us. Awesome.

And they sell our secrets to other countries.

Durandal · Post by **Durandal** » 2004-08-28 01:14am

Elfdart wrote:
Durandal wrote:So we fund their military ... and they spy on us. Awesome.
And they sell our secrets to other countries.

It's okay. As long as they get the sand pit that The Lord God promised them in the Old Testament.

Rogue 9 · Post by **Rogue 9** » 2004-08-28 01:20am

Durandal wrote:So we fund their military ... and they spy on us. Awesome.

Oh come on, every major intelligence agency in the world keeps operatives everywhere it's worthwhile to keep them, even in allied countries. You really think there's no CIA station in the London embassy, for instance?

Durandal · Post by **Durandal** » 2004-08-28 01:24am

Rogue 9 wrote:
Durandal wrote:So we fund their military ... and they spy on us. Awesome.
Oh come on, every major intelligence agency in the world keeps operatives everywhere it's worthwhile to keep them, even in allied countries. You really think there's no CIA station in the London embassy, for instance?

Do we sell their secrets to other countries?

Gil Hamilton · Post by **Gil Hamilton** » 2004-08-28 01:25am

Rogue 9 wrote: Oh come on, every major intelligence agency in the world keeps operatives everywhere it's worthwhile to keep them, even in allied countries. You really think there's no CIA station in the London embassy, for instance?

Does that means we should do nothing if we catch said spies? Are you serious?

Wicked Pilot · Post by **Wicked Pilot** » 2004-08-28 01:27am

Durandal wrote:Do we sell their secrets to other countries?

Does making James Bond movies count?

Elfdart · Post by **Elfdart** » 2004-08-28 01:41am

Rogue 9 wrote:
Durandal wrote:So we fund their military ... and they spy on us. Awesome.
Oh come on, every major intelligence agency in the world keeps operatives everywhere it's worthwhile to keep them, even in allied countries. You really think there's no CIA station in the London embassy, for instance?

An American citizen spying for a foreign power is a TRAITOR! Even if the country is friendly. Julius and Ethel Rosenberg got the electric chair because they were convicted of spying for Russia when the Russians were our allies in WW2.

Elfdart · Post by **Elfdart** » 2004-08-28 01:51am

I want to know why they let these Perle disciples anywhere near classified information in the first place. His pal, Stephen Bryen was kicked off the staff of the Senate Foreign Relations commmittee because he was overheard bragging that he would supply Israel with classified documents. Perle was overheard by FBI wiretaps discussing classified information with the Israeli embassy.

Rogue 9 · Post by **Rogue 9** » 2004-08-28 02:02am

Gil Hamilton wrote:
Rogue 9 wrote: Oh come on, every major intelligence agency in the world keeps operatives everywhere it's worthwhile to keep them, even in allied countries. You really think there's no CIA station in the London embassy, for instance?
Does that means we should do nothing if we catch said spies? Are you serious?

No, I didn't say we should do nothing. I said it shouldn't exactly be a big shock.

Glocksman · Post by **Glocksman** » 2004-08-28 07:52am

Elfdart wrote:I want to know why they let these Perle disciples anywhere near classified information in the first place. His pal, Stephen Bryen was kicked off the staff of the Senate Foreign Relations commmittee because he was overheard bragging that he would supply Israel with classified documents. Perle was overheard by FBI wiretaps discussing classified information with the Israeli embassy.

It doesn't surprise me at all, but a link to the story please.

Col. Crackpot · Post by **Col. Crackpot** » 2004-08-28 08:28am

Elfdart wrote:
Rogue 9 wrote:
Durandal wrote:So we fund their military ... and they spy on us. Awesome.
Oh come on, every major intelligence agency in the world keeps operatives everywhere it's worthwhile to keep them, even in allied countries. You really think there's no CIA station in the London embassy, for instance?
An American citizen spying for a foreign power is a TRAITOR! Even if the country is friendly. Julius and Ethel Rosenberg got the electric chair because they were convicted of spying for Russia when the Russians were our allies in WW2.

we're at war, I say we shoot the fucker. Doesn't Nevada or Wyoming still have a firing squad?

Elfdart · Post by **Elfdart** » 2004-08-28 09:25am

Glocksman wrote:
Elfdart wrote:I want to know why they let these Perle disciples anywhere near classified information in the first place. His pal, Stephen Bryen was kicked off the staff of the Senate Foreign Relations commmittee because he was overheard bragging that he would supply Israel with classified documents. Perle was overheard by FBI wiretaps discussing classified information with the Israeli embassy.

It doesn't surprise me at all, but a link to the story please.

www.disinfopedia.org/wiki.phtml?title=Richard_N._Perle

There's a book by Michael Saba about this as well.

Glocksman · Post by **Glocksman** » 2004-08-28 09:30am

Thanks

Zed Snardbody · Post by **Zed Snardbody** » 2004-08-28 08:15pm

Col. Crackpot wrote: we're at war, I say we shoot the fucker. Doesn't Nevada or Wyoming still have a firing squad?

Nevada used to have it. Utah still does.

Zed Snardbody · Post by **Zed Snardbody** » 2004-08-28 08:18pm

We will however, execute the retarded.

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2004-08-28 09:22pm

Elfdart wrote:
Durandal wrote:So we fund their military ... and they spy on us. Awesome.
And they sell our secrets to other countries.

Of course there's no evidence they did that.

Raptor 597 · Post by **Raptor 597** » 2004-08-28 10:15pm

Durandal wrote:
Rogue 9 wrote:
Durandal wrote:So we fund their military ... and they spy on us. Awesome.
Oh come on, every major intelligence agency in the world keeps operatives everywhere it's worthwhile to keep them, even in allied countries. You really think there's no CIA station in the London embassy, for instance?
Do we sell their secrets to other countries?

No, they give them away for free.

Gil Hamilton · Post by **Gil Hamilton** » 2004-08-28 11:05pm

Israel denies that papers on Iran were passed on to them IE no spying done

This is a stupid move on the part of Israel. Categorically denying that they've been spying is a good way to stick your foot in your mouth when you get caught.

I liked this part of the article most of all:

Israeli officials insisted Israel had not spied on the United States since being caught red-handed two decades ago in an espionage scandal involving U.S. Navy analyst Jonathan Pollard (search), arrested in 1985 outside the Israeli embassy.

"We deny carrying out any intelligence activity. It is a strange story," said a senior Israeli government official, who declined to be identified. "Israel, for many years, has not carried out intelligence activity in the United States."

In other words "We haven't spied on you since the last time we got caught spying on you!" What a silly thing to say.