HAHAAH fuck you Frogs! Fuck ya!

JME2 · Post by **JME2** » 2004-08-29 02:36am

Dark Primus wrote:I hope this line fits here:

"You have paid the prize for you're lack of vision."

Ah, the English are on a comeback, I tell you.

Futoque · Post by **Futoque** » 2004-08-29 02:57am

"It's undeniable that the free-marketeers and Atlanticists have taken the lion's share in this commission," he told Le Figaro.

I found this part very interesting. Wasn't the free market idea the primary reason the EU even came into existence? It seemed that one of the major reasons that it even got off the ground was the it was designed to set up a free trade zone in Europe.

LordShaithis · Post by **LordShaithis** » 2004-08-29 04:31am

Is it me or does "Atlantacist" mean "dirty America-lovers?"

TheDarkling · Post by **TheDarkling** » 2004-08-29 06:19am

Futoque wrote: I found this part very interesting. Wasn't the free market idea the primary reason the EU even came into existence? It seemed that one of the major reasons that it even got off the ground was the it was designed to set up a free trade zone in Europe.

What they mean is that they support more liberal economics, i.e. less rigid employment regulation (the Germans problem) and less state ownership (the French problem).

Jade Falcon · Post by **Jade Falcon** » 2004-08-29 10:10am

It's funny that the French STILL think they should be able to dictate to the rest of the EU even when the additional countries came in.

France certainly did itself no favours politically by more or less threatening that countries like Poland were putting their EU entry into jeopardy by supporting the coalition in Iraq.

Rogue 9 · Post by **Rogue 9** » 2004-08-29 11:06am

Rye wrote:
Rogue 9 wrote: I would think Ireland would be one.
Ireland has had Euros as it's currency for a while now.

Yeah, I missed the other condition. So sue me.

Post by **Edi** » 2004-08-29 12:27pm

I definitely don't mind the French getting the short end of the stick, they have most annoying and deserve the comeuppance.

Edi

Post by **RogueIce** » 2004-08-29 03:02pm

"It's undeniable that the free-marketeers and Atlanticists have taken the lion's share in this commission," he told Le Figaro.

And this is bad...why?

Tsyroc · Post by **Tsyroc** » 2004-08-29 03:14pm

RogueIce wrote:
"It's undeniable that the free-marketeers and Atlanticists have taken the lion's share in this commission," he told Le Figaro.
And this is bad...why?

I don't know, maybe the French like the Mediterranean better or something.

Master of Ossus · Post by **Master of Ossus** » 2004-08-29 03:16pm

RogueIce wrote:
"It's undeniable that the free-marketeers and Atlanticists have taken the lion's share in this commission," he told Le Figaro.
And this is bad...why?

'Cause those guys aren't French. Duh.

Robert Treder · Post by **Robert Treder** » 2004-08-29 05:09pm

Crayz9000 wrote:I'd be happy to see Cyprus as an independent country -- it would solve some problems -- but would probably raise more problems than it would solve. If it became an independent country and a part of the EU within a short time, things might work out, but currently Turkey is being a royal pain in the ass over it, and Greece will agree to a Turkish-dominated government of all of Cyprus around the same time Charlemagne takes power again in Germany.

Do you mean "independent country" as in "not half-claimed by Turks"? Because Cyprus has technically been an independent nation since 1960. And Cyprus is a member of the EU.

Falkenhayn · Post by **Falkenhayn** » 2004-08-29 08:20pm

Futoque wrote:
"It's undeniable that the free-marketeers and Atlanticists have taken the lion's share in this commission," he told Le Figaro.
I found this part very interesting. Wasn't the free market idea the primary reason the EU even came into existence? It seemed that one of the major reasons that it even got off the ground was the it was designed to set up a free trade zone in Europe.

See what happens when Gaullist bureaucrats get to define what they think Free Trade means?

Crayz9000 · Post by **Crayz9000** » 2004-08-30 02:44am

Robert Treder wrote:Do you mean "independent country" as in "not half-claimed by Turks"? Because Cyprus has technically been an independent nation since 1960. And Cyprus is a member of the EU.

Well, yeah, forgot about that. But anyway, it's basically in a royal clusterfuck right now. As it's been for the past, oh, 30 years...